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So I have an SB-1000 in the front corner. I also have an old MartinLogan Dynamo 300 that I'd like to use since it blends really well with the rest of my system (front: JBL L5s, rear JBL L1s, center: JBL LC1). I'm just not sure how to set it up, mostly because the Dynamo only goes down to 35Hz or so—it isn't exactly a "sub"woofer when compared to the SVS. I'll make sure to use Audyssey EQ after, whatever I choose. So,

1. I have to place it diagonal to the SVS due to room limitations no matter what, so should it go in the front corner or back since it blends well with the front speakers?

2. Should I use the Dynamo with its speaker-level inputs? (And where would I plug that in on my receiver?) Or should I keep it on LFE and use it as a complementary sub? (My receiver is 7.2.)

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So I have an SB-1000 in the front corner. I also have an old MartinLogan Dynamo 300 that I'd like to use since it blends really well with the rest of my system (front: JBL L5s, rear JBL L1s, center: JBL LC1). I'm just not sure how to set it up, mostly because the Dynamo only goes down to 35Hz or so—it isn't exactly a "sub"woofer when compared to the SVS. I'll make sure to use Audyssey EQ after, whatever I choose. So,

1. I have to place it diagonal to the SVS due to room limitations no matter what, so should it go in the front corner or back since it blends well with the front speakers?

2. Should I use the Dynamo with its speaker-level inputs? (And where would I plug that in on my receiver?) Or should I keep it on LFE and use it as a complementary sub? (My receiver is 7.2.)

Thanks everyone!
Hi,

I have a couple of reactions, I will share. First, I would probably prefer to put the less powerful sub in the back corner, on the assumption that it will be a little closer to your listening position. Blending should not be a problem with either of your subwoofers if you have selected an appropriate crossover. Diagonal corners often work very well from a frequency response standpoint, so that part may actually be a plus.

You have a couple of different choices with Audyssey. If you have dual sub outs, with XT-32, there would be some advantage to letting Audyssey set distances and levels for the two different subs. But, Audyssey would stop EQing where the weaker of the two subs is down in volume by 3db, so that could knock out a lot of your low-end EQ for the SB1000.

If you don't have XT-32, with two sub outs, I think that the decision is even easier. I would simply run Audyssey for just the SB1000, and then after calibrating, add the Dynamo to the system with a Y-connector. That won't affect your Audyssey calibration at all, as Audyssey will never even know the second sub is there. The disadvantage of course is that the Dynamo will be EQed in the same way that the SB1000 is. If the Dynamo has any built-in DSP, you could set a High Pass Filter for about 40Hz. But, doing it the way I suggested will also allow you to easily A/B your sound to determine whether the Dynamo really adds anything to the overall sound quality.

Anytime you try to combine two mis-matched subs, you may like the result, or you may not. But, I do think it is easier to mismatch sealed subs than it is ported subs. As for where to plug the Dynamo in, I would probably try it on the normal LFE setting, unless you know of some specific reason to do it another way. In that case, you can just experiment to find out which sounds better to you. I hope this helps!

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PayPal Credit and eBay are having a 24 month same as cash sale....wheee! I can get my PB-16 finally.....until I discover that no eBay SVS vendors participate in PayPal Credit.

Grrr.......
SVS accepts PayPal as a payment method.

You need to apply for PayPal Credit with PayPal. Once approved it would be added to your PayPal account as a payment option. Simply select that option when checking out.

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You need to apply for PayPal Credit with PayPal. Once approved it would be added to your PayPal account as a payment option. Simply select that option when checking out.
I've had PayPal Credit for awhile and it's great when i want to buy something as a short term same-as-cash deal. Anything over $99 on PayPal Credit is 6 months same-as-cash and yes, I could get a sub that way right now. But if I spend $2K for a sub, that's still a big bite on my budget over the next six months and I'm still paying for my LG OLED TV on PayPal until the end of the summer.

The deal I was talking about was that occasionally, PayPal and a vendor establishes a much better length of terms....12-24 months for a limited occasion. I got a nice Vitamix blender this way last year which is only costing me $37 a month interest free over 18 months. In this case, last week Paypal and eBay were doing a 24 month same-as-cash deal for a purchase over $400. That would have made a purchase easy. But none of the authorized vendors selling SVS subs on eBay like OneCall accept PayPal credit at all (you can pay via PayPal for a single payment just like always).

Oh well....
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That blender must dig pretty deep.
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I've had PayPal Credit for awhile and it's great when i want to buy something as a short term same-as-cash deal. Anything over $99 on PayPal Credit is 6 months same-as-cash and yes, I could get a sub that way right now. But if I spend $2K for a sub, that's still a big bite on my budget over the next six months and I'm still paying for my LG OLED TV on PayPal until the end of the summer.

The deal I was talking about was that occasionally, PayPal and a vendor establishes a much better length of terms....12-24 months for a limited occasion. I got a nice Vitamix blender this way last year which is only costing me $37 a month interest free over 18 months. In this case, last week Paypal and eBay were doing a 24 month same-as-cash deal for a purchase over $400. That would have made a purchase easy. But none of the authorized vendors selling SVS subs on eBay like OneCall accept PayPal credit at all (you can pay via PayPal for a single payment just like always).

Oh well....
OK see - PayPal Credit and eBay teamed up on that one. Yeah 24 months same as cash is insanely good.

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That blender must dig pretty deep.
A good Vitamix is worth its weight in gold.
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I just bought my second SB13 a couple months ago and like you was thinking of getting the 16 instead. I went the 13 route. Both are inside my mains and my ocd of having two different looking subs up front and center well I just couldn't do it. Good luck on your choice!
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PB12 and SB12 NSDs match pretty well. The Minidsp makes it easy to A/B the difference between single sub and dual sub. Very noticeable improvement in smoothness and perceived db and I rarely notice where the SB12 falls off. My room is only 12'x9'.




I was also able to compare these two to the BIC V1220 (similar to F12?). That was the first time I've directly compared any decent subwoofers. I see why those BICs are the best bang for buck subs; very impressed for what I paid. But I also see why so many here suggest to skip and save up for HSU, SVS, PSA, etc. Idk about the others, but these SVS's are so linear and clean. The quality of the bass never drops. Love it!


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PB12 and SB12 NSDs match pretty well. The Minidsp makes it easy to A/B the difference between single sub and dual sub. Very noticeable improvement in smoothness and perceived db and I rarely notice where the SB12 falls off. My room is only 12'x9'.




I was also able to compare these two to the BIC V1220 (similar to F12?). That was the first time I've directly compared any decent subwoofers. I see why those BICs are the best bang for buck subs; very impressed for what I paid. But I also see why so many here suggest to skip and save up for HSU, SVS, PSA, etc. Idk about the others, but these SVS's are so linear and clean. The quality of the bass never drops. Love it!


Even worse you mixed ported with sealed! But hey if it sounds good to your ears then so be it.

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For movies I wonder if you can hear the difference in having two different subs (ported and unported) going??

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For movies I wonder if you can hear the difference in having two different subs (ported and unported) going??
You would actually not hear it.

The main issue with mixing vented and sealed is cancellation around the port tune of the vented sub.
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