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Sure! Is there any thing in particular you would like to see?

Well, I figure it won't only be for me, but for others who want to setup speclab. It would be a great help.

I'd like to see all the setup tabs. (if you have time)

But I'm thinking it has something to do with my drivers and sound card setup.


EDIT: I got it to work with a microphone, but it does'nt want to get anything straight from the dvd.


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Try this: (Spec Lab settings)
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And this too:
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A sound wave = an alternating air pressure variation.



In a very small space like a car, the boundary gain is huge. You can have a sub with a rolloff that begins fairly high and still wind up with a flat, deep frequency response due to the low end gain. The size of the environmment being much smaller than the wave length does not prevent you from hearing the frequency. It's still all about the pressure. The difference is that you get more boundary gain as the environment gets smaller and the gain extends up to includer higher frequencies as you get smaller.

Perhaps I should have referred to it as "pressurization" than "sound pressure". Obviously if the room cannot accommodate the wave length, then the listener is not getting the true wave pattern. They'll get something though.

If you have experienced the same bass source in 2 different aforementioned environments, you may not want to equate the bass quality from a pressurized vs. not. Former seems to be what most people are used to and think that's how it's supposed to be.
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This scene really shakes my living room. I always though it had some pretty deep bass. I haven't really seen this waterfall done before...Some energy all the way down to 5Hz...I sure as heck can feel it with the Ultra. This is perhaps one of my all time favorite scenes.
It starts at 2 min 40 sec.




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Perhaps I should have referred to it as "pressurization" than "sound pressure". Obviously if the room cannot accommodate the wave length, then the listener is not getting the true wave pattern. They'll get something though.

If you have experienced the same bass source in 2 different aforementioned environments, you may not want to equate the bass quality from a pressurized vs. not. Former seems to be what most people are used to and think that's how it's supposed to be.

Accommodating the entire length of a sound wave in a space has nothing to do with being able to perfectly hear the sound. For example, the wave length of a 30hz tone is 37.67 feet, yet you can reproduce and hear the tone perfectly through a good pair of headphones which can physically only support a wave length of maybe an inch. It's all about the alternating pressure variation which the ear detects as sound and has nothing to do with being able to accommodate the entire length of the wave.

The bass quality and how it varies based on different sized environments gets down to a matter of tayloring the response of a sub to reproduce a flat frequency response in that environment.
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Awesome croseiv !!! Your the man!!!

I'm going to incorporate those settings into the first post. Since this is the newer version(V2.7 b20) it differs from kweezr's. Thanks and keep up the good work.

That star wars scene is great!

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Can you post one more screen shot, where you would click on the "Start/Stop" and it shows some settings. On the navigation toolbar on the top. Also if you know the color scheme name, that would be terrific.

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Awesome croseiv !!! Your the man!!!

I'm going to incorporate those settings into the first post. Since this is the newer version(V2.7 b20) it differs from kweezr's. Thanks and keep up the good work.

That star wars scene is great!


Cool!

Actually, I did see Kweezer's work re the ship landing scene, so it is a duplication of effort on my part there. I think our level settings are a little different.
But it is one heck of a scene.
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Awesome croseiv !!! Your the man!!!

I'm going to incorporate those settings into the first post. Since this is the newer version(V2.7 b20) it differs from kweezr's. Thanks and keep up the good work.

That star wars scene is great!

EDIT:
Can you post one more screen shot, where you would click on the "Start/Stop" and it shows some settings. On the navigation toolbar on the top. Also if you know the color scheme name, that would be terrific.

Thanks


The color scheme is RDF multisweep 2

Range -60 dB to 0.
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The color scheme is RDF multisweep 2

Range -60 dB to 0.

Thanks, I added your settings to the first post, so all will benefit from it.

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Here is a waterfall of the pod race from 58:27 to 59:36.
There's definitely some deep stuff there too!



Strong down to 20 Hz and a little in the mid teens. I always thought this was a deep scene (as my sub was telling my ears and body). That's enough of this for today...
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We're posting shotgun blasts but completely ignore Open Range? I don't think anything comes close to OR's shotgun blasts. Anyone(besides jbl sound) got any captures on that?
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We're posting shotgun blasts but completely ignore Open Range? I don't think anything comes close to OR's shotgun blasts. Anyone(besides jbl sound) got any captures on that?

You then have not yet heard Mr. Brooks. Literally deafeningly realistic is the only way to describe the gunshot sounds in that movie.


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I have a request for a waterfall:

Somewhat obscure recent movie called Gabriel. I'd like to see the waterfall of the scene where Uriel heals himself. It's in chapter 3 or 4 as I recall.

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No, but this should suffice.

“Impressive, most impressive waterfalls.”

This one kinder pushed the level as well as the frequency up a bit high and the first time I played this in the home, after the pants showing at the Odeon Westover road screen 1 (2002) that didn’t even have one single creditable impact to WOW the audience, it scared the living daylights out of me, (in the home) and I forget which amplifier I was using for the JBL4645 at the time, but not one single issue, just one almighty, tremendous impact on my body, now then.




Yeah. That one shakes the house too.
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Yeah. That one shakes the house too.

But what I do is listen to what the LCR can do or reproduce because there not cinema size PA and the sub is so, I reduce the level down to match more or less the bass level along with the other sub that serves as bass extension for the LCRS and then add the LFE.1 with pinch of little slat, otherwise too much in level, will spoil the enjoyment of it all with excessive amounts of LFE.1.

I’d have to go over this flick again with fine toothcomb and see which part of the LFE.1 has the highest level, as I look for level and not frequency response as some portions are slightly lower in output level.

Mate you should check out NASA TV right now, wow what tour of the ISS that’s the real deal, no star wars no star trek it’s the real McCoy, and the view is breathtaking.
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It's all about the alternating pressure variation which the ear detects as sound and has nothing to do with being able to accommodate the entire length of the wave.

It's not the end of the world if you have not but if you are really interested, I would suggest you give the two environments a try with same bass source.
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same as this one from kweezr



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I've added some of the new Hi-Def sound formats along side of the movies.

DD+
DTS-HD:MA
DTS-HD:HRA
TrueHD
LPCM

Still working on adding them to the timestamp section.


Oh and the thread title will change once the mods clear it.


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Hmm, I should have tried those moments out and I think I know the moment in chapter 12 hey f^&&*k you! he's close he's really close LOL

"Apocalypse Now"
1. Chopper Ride, Chap 2 (0:19:47)
2. Arc Light, Chap 4 (0:26:02)
3. Grenade Launch, Chap 12 (1:27:58)
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It's not the end of the world if you have not but if you are really interested, I would suggest you give the two environments a try with same bass source.

I hear what your saying, but the same bass source must be taylored to be played back properly in different environments.
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I hear what your saying, but the same bass source must be taylored to be played back properly in different environments.

Hmmm, I have the space for an idea of delightful extermination of a sort, I can't disclose the concept but I'm thinking of a few frequencies and few other on hand items and little imagination would give the correct tone at a certain given distance.

Thanks this thread has been fascinating now all I need is a few parts of low cost and knock them together.
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Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope DD-EX Boxed trilogy version

1:03:25-1:03:32.

One of the nicest bass scenes in the movie, a sweep after they hit where alderan should be. Then again anytime the Falcon flies by or when the Death Star goes boom is pretty nice...

It may not compare to the LOTR but it's nice.

also i think the prequel trilogy should all be in the 4-4.5 star range for bass

and LOTR: The Two Towers should be moved to 4.5 stars.

and ill try and think of some more for you guys.
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I like the part where the Falcon is being pulled in by a tractor beam and it sounds like a frequency sweep, when Han Solo shuts the engines off.

I think there was deep moment where its used in the LFE.1 as with the LCR and S was mostly a lower level background of sort, its been a month or two since I played it.
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im hearing a bit of something there but if you jump to the beginning of the chapter im pretty sure it's the best bass in the movie. It sure beats the explosion at the end, and the alderan explosion.
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