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post #331 of 9690 Old 03-10-2007, 09:46 PM
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May i ask what this whole setup, including sub, cost you?
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Here ya go and as for performance? in a word "FANTASTIC"

Can you shoot us a jpg of where the submersive is located?

Also, what is that on top of your right main speaker.

What size is your room.

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May i ask what this whole setup, including sub, cost you?

I'm back in Chicago for a short time, and I'm pretty happy with the experience we achieved in Mike's small, untreated room. I know Mike is headed out of town tomorrow, so I'll answer the question to him breifly. Mike has been hunting me down for a while now, and he caught me early on and got a little bit of a break over what I would normally charge, but he was very patient and knew these are early production units. The SubMersive itself is $1995, the QSC DSP-30 is ~$500, about $50 in quality ballanced cables, plus my services. My optimization of a system runs anywhere from $500-$1000 plus approximate travel expenses.

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Can you shoot us a jpg of where the submersive is located?

Also, what is that on top of your right main speaker.

What size is your room.

Hi JimP,

The pictures funlvr posted were from when I came by my place to pick up his SubMersive which was one of my first production samples. Those pictures are not of his room, but rather one room/lab in my place. I believe he has some pictures of his room with the SubMersive installed somewhere. In his gallery are pictures of his rom with his previous M&K subs.

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Here is a shot that funlvr posted earlier in this same thread of his SubMersive in his room:


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Mark,

Thanks for the reply.

Very impressive looking sub.

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Again, I just wanted to thank Mark for traveling to PA for the install. It was a great experience for me. I am off this morning but when I get back, I predict lots of listening. Thanks again Mark.

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I bet it's pretty awesome to have a sound expert install a semi-custom setup in your room.

But then you wouldn't have to tweak your system all the time, and where's the fun in that? :-)

Mark, I'll be contacting you in 10 years or so. :-)
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I'm back in Chicago for a short time, and I'm pretty happy with the experience we achieved in Mike's small, untreated room. I know Mike is headed out of town tomorrow, so I'll answer the question to him breifly. Mike has been hunting me down for a while now, and he caught me early on and got a little bit of a break over what I would normally charge, but he was very patient and knew these are early production units. The SubMersive itself is $1995, the QSC DSP-30 is ~$500, about $50 in quality ballanced cables, plus my services. My optimization of a system runs anywhere from $500-$1000 plus approximate travel expenses.

Wow, that's close to $4000 when it's all said and done. You should be a millionaire in a few years.

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To become a millionaire that quickly he will have to forget pre-sales, after-sales, stop eating, sleep on the plane and sell tons of his subwoofers.


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I'm still waiting on my twin SubMersives.

Mark, any idea when the other finishes for the SubMersive will be ready?

Still waiting for a reply..
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Welcome to the club Mike..... =-)

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So we now have 4 AVS'ers with submerssives? Looks like a slow start...
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So we now have 4 AVS'ers with submerssives? Looks like a slow start...

But those 4 AVS'ers own a combined 8 submersives

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What are the approx physical dimensions of these beasts?
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What are the approx physical dimensions of these beasts?

W17.5" x 24"(with grills) x 24.75" (plus 3/4" tall feet)
The weight is between 110-120lbs. It accutally does not look that big in my room. Just a bit taller then what I had before.

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You know Art, there is no need to rub it in . I am on vacation but I am looking forward to getting back and really giving my "upgraded" system a good run through. I still can't believe how much the overall SQ changed after Mark did his magic on the cross over and delay times. I will say it again, anyone looking for a powerfull excelent sounding sub, HAS to do their best to get one of these.

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I was just responding to the fact that a few of us have all of the Submersives right now.

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What's in that picture, exactly?

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What's in that picture, exactly?

The L/C/R's are prototype Seaton XL's. MS described them a few pages back. They are active, internally bi-amp'd speakers, with dual 12" woofers and a coaxial mid-tweeter.
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The sub's are obviously 4 Submersives. I soooooo want to vist Art's theater.

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This is "insane". I thought I will stop looking after dual f113's but TheEar's infections is becoming very contagious with terminal upgraditis/bassitis infection. I will check back later. Don't do this to us Mark .
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I was just responding to the fact that a few of us have all of the Submersives right now.

Art

Art, you know I was joking right? I can't begin to imagine what that must sound like. How are Mark's main speakers. They do look pretty serious. I never thought I would be on vacation and look forward to getting back home.

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The L/C/R's are prototype Seaton XL's. MS described them a few pages back. They are active, internally bi-amp'd speakers, with dual 12" woofers and a coaxial mid-tweeter.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7&page=4&pp=30

The sub's are obviously 4 Submersives. I soooooo want to vist Art's theater.

Craig

Correct ! I'm going to be updating my website with Mark's new stuff as well as a few things that have happened in my theater in the last few months.

I hope to have another get together for the forum in the fall so I hope to see you there.

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Correct ! I'm going to be updating my website with Mark's new stuff as well as a few things that have happened in my theater in the last few months.

I hope to have another get together for the forum in the fall so I hope to see you there.

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I would make that drive for sure! Keep me in mind, if you would please.

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OK.
I was able to watch a movie last night. I put in WOTW. OH MY . I am speechless. It was just incredible. The lightning was much better then my older sub. But from the emergence through the attack it was an entirely new level. I had a big grin from ear to ear. I was getting a bit scared because of the power of this thing. But the SQ is just off the chart. I have heard a good number of subs. At my old store I would sit and watch movies all day in their theaters so I have had experiences with some high end subs. They include Martin Logan Decent($2700), The original Dynaudio Contour sub($3000), The original Wilson Audio Watch Dog ($9950), B&W ASW3000($3000?). Not to mention my own Def Tech power field 15($699) and JM Labs SW900($1750). But the best out of everything I have ever heard has been the JM Labs Utopia Be Sub($6000). That is the first sub that actually scared me when I was listening to it. It is a fantastic sounding sub with a ton of output. I can tell you that just this one movie has convinced me that the SubMersive is equal to the task.

What I need to do now is watch some of the movies that I have seen in that store. I can not stress this enough. Just after watching one movie I am convinced of the quality of this sub. The overall performance is not out done by any of the subs I just mentioned. I felt as though my entire room was moving. When the Tripod came out of the ground it felt like it was in the room. And that death ray was insane. On my SW900 I thought it sounded good. With this, I really thought that I should duck. I don't know what else I can say. I will watch a few more movies this week and post some more thoughts. I can say that I am very satisfied and I have no "I should have...." thoughts in my head.

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Mike,

Obviously the submersive is a killer sub, but I'd like to ask how much of your performace improvement is due to the tweaks Mark made to your system and that maybe you were coming from a not so great sub?

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Valid point. I would first say that my previous sub was a fine performer. It only lacked in real deep bass. It could belt out 110db cleanly on many movies. But it stopped dead right above 20Hz. Yes, Mark tweaked my system. He adjusted a few things like delay times and cross over frequency. And I can tell you that made a difference. In WOTW I already heard things I did not hear before. But that was in the other speakers. But I have no doubt that the sub is playing a big part in the overall sound quality increase I am experiencing. No matter how Mark would have tweaked my theater, there is no way I would have this sound with my old sub. Now, do you need Mark to install this sub for you? Obviously not. I am sure that you could get fantastic sound from it on your own. The only reason I had Mark do the install was because I was physically unable to do it myself. It is just so much more powerful. I do see your point. But trust me, the sub has allot to do with what I am hearing.

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Jim,
Let me just add one more item. Last night, when I was watching WOTW something happened that never happened before. My HT room is in a house on the second floor. The kitchen is on the first floor on the other side of the house. During the beginning when the pods emerge and the fun begins the room was shaking. For the first time, I was told that there were glasses in the kitchen that were shaking. I have played that movie plenty of times and while it has gotten loud, I was never told that before. This was with the door the the room shut, plus another door that sort of separates off part of the upstairs shut. To say I was impressed was an understatement.

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Sounds like we're going to need some new construction methods to keep from destroying one's home. Detached, on slab, concrete block walls, 90 amp service to go along with the popcorn machine.

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