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Any chance that this will be offered with XLR connections in the future, maybe even as a higher cost option?

I'm curious as to the cost of including XLR connections on a product such as this. Does it add hundreds of dollars per unit to the cost of R&D?

The addition of XLRs would have necessitated new internal hardware boards and would have substantially increased the cost of the unit. We discussed XLRs with Audy early in the project (and initially wanted them), but it just wasn't in the cards.

Regardless, I haven't come across a case yet where they were actually needed (i.e., the use of RCA-XLR adapters was unsuccessful).

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The AS-EQ1 will not have balanced connections. If necessary, you can always use XLR/RCA adapters. The interconnect won't be truly balanced at that point, but I've used the adapters on occasion with complete success.

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I have a long balanced line to the front of my room (from the "head-end" in the rear) and a BB22 before my Hsu amp which has only a single-ended input. Sounds g-r-r-r-eat.
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The AS-EQ1 unit is set-up and operated with a laptop via a USB connection. The processing power required to assess the data from each listening location, apply the adaptive and correction algorithms, and build the filter file is simply too high for an on-board microprocessor to handle in a reasonable length of time. The modern laptop brings enormous processing power and speedy set-up, and of course also provides the software GUI.

After the user is satisfied with the results for that subwoofer location/listening position, the file is flashed to the AS-EQ1, and the laptop is disconnected.

A lá Audyssey Pro then. Cool. Will the SubEQ work with Audyssey Pro in the same manner in which you previously posted that it will "coexist" with MultEQ XT?
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Would it be possible to use it with four subwoofers ?
I will have 2 in center front and 2 in center rear.

It was also talk about another version with more outputs,does anybody know something ?

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Would it be possible to use it with four subwoofers ?
I will have 2 in center front and 2 in center rear.

It was also talk about another version with more outputs,does anybody know something ?

You won't need more outputs, you just Y them off like you would any other piece of gear.

If you have two colocated pairs they would be treated as two subwoofers anyway since the response from each pair would be the same.

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The AS-EQ1 unit is set-up and operated with a laptop via a USB connection. The processing power required to assess the data from each listening location, apply the adaptive and correction algorithms, and build the filter file is simply too high for an on-board microprocessor to handle in a reasonable length of time. The modern laptop brings enormous processing power and speedy set-up, and of course also provides the software GUI.

After the user is satisfied with the results for that subwoofer location/listening position, the file is flashed to the AS-EQ1, and the laptop is disconnected.

Wow!! Glad to hear we all get a laptop with the unit. Heck, some of us might just buy the package for the lappy alone.

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And the AS-EQ1 would not have any problems with the roomEq ?

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And the AS-EQ1 would not have any problems with the roomEq ?

The AS-EQ1 will only handle the lowest ocatves.

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Wow!! Glad to hear we all get a laptop with the unit. Heck, some of us might just buy the package for the lappy alone.


Yes, I have seen it in Norway, If I remember right it was a Dell XPS

Ed, I even had a beer (Uhmm maybe more than one ) with your boss, say hallo from the guy with the HDMI to Cat5 extender, he will know

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The AS-EQ1 will only handle the lowest ocatves.

I know,no problem

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They are finalizing production setups and pricing. We should know something in the next 2-6 weeks.

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They are finalizing production setups and pricing. We should know something in the next 2-6 weeks.

Thanks. I was looking for info on the pre-ordering program.
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Will the software be both Mac and PC based?
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Thanks. I was looking for info on the pre-ordering program.

Still says this on the SVS website:

Dated Nov. 17th, 2008:
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AS-EQ1 Sub EQ pre-order announcement soon! Final planning for production ensues. Prices, ETA ... and just where this revolutionary box has already been will be coming to SVS News very soon indeed.

Very soon, indeed!

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PS. Ya have those other two subs set up yet?

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Still says this on the SVS website:

Dated Nov. 17th, 2008:


Very soon, indeed!

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PS. Ya have those other two subs set up yet?

They are waiting patiently in their boxes.

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Will the software be both Mac and PC based?

Very much doubt it.
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So, Mac only???
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Not that I mind talking about hamburgers, but I have a question that may have already been answered, but her it goes:

How does this unit handle two subs in (very) different locations (in the same room, of course).

For example if I have one sub in a corner and another about 12 feet away along the front wall, what does this EQ do with such different placements, (and their different responses)?
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It magically corrects for each one individually in contrast to providing the same equalization to both.

I think Ed responded to that in the last two pages.

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What's a Mac?

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A lá Audyssey Pro then. Cool. Will the SubEQ work with Audyssey Pro in the same manner in which you previously posted that it will "coexist" with MultEQ XT?

Yes, it will work with either Audy Pro installed on a consumer AVR, or Audy Pro as a stand-alone external unit.

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I am curious how EQ1 will treat sub 20Hz frequencies.
Here is a measurement I took last night.
Red is no Audyssey
Green is Audyssey on
Blue is Audyssey and Dynamic EQ on.
It appears Audyssey cut output below 14 Hz?

I am considering adding EQ1, I like what Audyssey does in general I am wondering if there would be enough improvement to warrant an upgrade.

FYI this is a sub only measurement of 2 HSU ULS-15's in a sealed 1800 cubic foot room.

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I am curious how EQ1 will treat sub 20Hz frequencies.
Here is a measurement I took last night.
Red is no Audyssey
Green is Audyssey on
Blue is Audyssey and Dynamic EQ on.
It appears Audyssey cut output below 14 Hz?

I am considering adding EQ1, I like what Audyssey does in general I am wondering if there would be enough improvement to warrant an upgrade.

FYI this is a sub only measurement of 2 HSU ULS-15's in a sealed 1800 cubic foot room.

I assume this is with a consumer AVR. The Audyssey (green) curve variations <14 Hz may be the result of an imperfect mic & calibration file combination.

We encountered some of this during the AS-EQ1 development process, when comparing the performance of the AS-EQ1 to various consumer AVRs equipped with MultEQ XT.

The AS-EQ1 has a dedicated mic/calibration file which will provide less unit-to-unit variance at ULFs than the typical AVR equipped with MultEQ XT.

The unit itself has a sophisticated roll-off sensing algorithm, and will not try to boost the bass below the corner frequency of the room/subwoofer. For example, I ran-up an Ultra/2 in the 25 Hz native tune, and the AS-EQ1 allowed flat extension to almost exactly 20 Hz, which is the effective lower limit of the 25 Hz tune in-room, and is also the amplifer high pass filter corner frequency for that tune switch setting.

The unit does have the filter resolution to correct the response into the single digit region, and will not arbitrarily lop-off the low-end. But it will not extend the FR into the single digits if the room/subwoofer are incapable of same or would require a great deal of EQ to achieve.

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