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WOW; a couple hundred - how is this determined? That's 2/3 the price of an ep2500. XLR is implemented on too much gear for this to be so; I'm not buying this...

I had high hopes here too.

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reguardless, I will not be poo pooing this device just because it doesn't have xlr.... It would be nice, but not a do or die for me....
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reguardless, I will not be poo pooing this device just because it doesn't have xlr.... It would be nice, but not a do or die for me....

well said, no poo pooing here folks!
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WOW; a couple hundred - how is this determined? That's 2/3 the price of an ep2500. XLR is implemented on too much gear for this to be so; I'm not buying this...

I had high hopes here too.

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I still have high hopes for this unit and I will buy one.
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No poo poo here guys; merely a 'realistic' and simple challenge as to the proposed cost of implementing XLR - $200 on top of a $700 device?

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reguardless, I will not be poo pooing this device just because it doesn't have xlr.... It would be nice, but not a do or die for me....

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As you should - my reference to 'high hopes' was pertaining to XLR - I'm sure this is going to be a great device; likewise meeting 'everyone's' expectations is unrealistic.

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I still have high hopes for this unit and I will buy one.

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I'll likely pick one up too - nothing wrong with using adapters on the back of the device!

Oh great, now you have me quoting myself

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As you should - my reference to 'high hopes' was pertaining to XLR - I'm sure this is going to be a great device; likewise meeting 'everyone's' expectations is unrealistic.

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No poo poo here guys; merely a 'realistic' and simple challenge as to the proposed cost of implementing XLR - $200 on top of a $700 device?

Larry, it's not just the cost of adding a male and female chassis mount XLRs. Unless the EQ1's circuitry is balanced, baluns transformers would need to be added. It is that part that could add ~$200. You can google Jensen baluns or Rane BB22 to do some of your own research.

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As you should - my reference to 'high hopes' was pertaining to XLR - I'm sure this is going to be a great device; likewise meeting 'everyone's' expectations is unrealistic.

No balanced in/out is far from a deal breaker for me. My present sub "group" (dual Hsu TN-1220 HO) is in the front of my room driven by my "head-end" in the room's "rear end." I am adding a second identical setup in the rear close to the rack. I will use an external baluns for the run to the room front, but will use the SE direct to my rear group.

Just my $.02.

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Hi Jeff,

Not doubting your position here; however, does cause one to wonder how other organizations are able to street balanced devices for < $500. Like I said, I'm not knocking the device (I'll likely pick one up); merely an enthusiast sharing my thoughts.

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Larry, it's not just the cost of adding a male and female chassis mount XLRs. Unless the EQ1's circuitry is balanced, baluns transformers would need to be added. It is that part that could add ~$200. You can google Jensen baluns or Rane BB22 to do some of your own research.

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Hi Jeff,

My install sounds similar in approach as yours; multiple subs distributed around the listening environment, with the source electronics located in the rear of the room. I've gone overboard on my pursuit of the last' octave (I blame Arthur TheEar' here); my install will consist of 4 18 Maelstrom-X's, 2 18" LMS Ultras and one of the 21" units Haskins' is developing. I'll follow the Harmon 'white paper' per the install, so I currently don't view auto-calibration as a must-have for me. In the interim I'll use a Marchand Bassis with the XLR I/O upgrade.

My intent was NOT to belittle SVS's product; I only desired the unit to be balanced is all - merely personal preference. I will most certainly be looking forward to user feedback.

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No balanced in/out is far from a deal breaker for me. My present sub "group" (dual Hsu TN-1220 HO) is in the front of my room driven by my "head-end" in the room's "rear end." I am adding a second identical setup in the rear close to the rack. I will use an external baluns for the run to the room front, but will use the SE direct to my rear group.

Just my $.02.

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Hi Jeff,

Not doubting your position here; however, does cause one to wonder how other organizations are able to street balanced devices for < $500. Like I said, I'm not knocking the device (I'll likely pick one up); merely an enthusiast sharing my thoughts.

Larry

Larry,

"Position" connotes, to me, an argument or at least a debate. I really don't think that is the case, but *that* would be a position.

When I referred to Jensen baluns and Rane BB22, I went straight to audiophile/pro level gear. Many of us are audiophiles with a sizable chunk o' money in our systems. There are lesser expensive transformers, but they fall below my threshold of acceptability. Perhaps that is what the devices you cite are using?

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Hey Jeff,

I certainly don't want to sidetrack the thread any further (my apologies to all here); however, I like the Rane device; particularly the BB44 - this guy is expandable to 8x8...

Have a great day!

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Larry,

"Position" connotes, to me, an argument or at least a debate. I really don't think that is the case, but *that* would be a position.

When I referred to Jensen baluns and Rane BB22, I went straight to audiophile/pro level gear. Many of us are audiophiles with a sizable chunk o' money in our systems. There are lesser expensive transformers, but they fall below my threshold of acceptability. Perhaps that is what the devices you cite are using?

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Hi Jeff,

My install sounds similar in approach as yours; multiple subs distributed around the listening environment, with the source electronics located in the rear of the room. I’ve gone overboard on my pursuit of the ‘last’ octave (I blame Arthur ‘TheEar’ here); my install will consist of 4 18” Maelstrom-X's, 2 18" LMS Ultras and one of the 21" units Haskins' is developing. I'll follow the Harmon 'white paper' per the install, so I currently don’t view auto-calibration as a must-have for me. In the interim I'll use a Marchand Bassis with the XLR I/O upgrade.

If your room has all 90° angles and straight, flat walls and ceiling, the method discussed in the Harmon paper will indeed minimize the interference that causes peaks and nulls. Where possible/practical, I am a big fan of "speaker placement" as a way to smooth out the bottom end. I'd imagine that, with your apparent level of commitment (read: $$$ invested), you have acoustical treatments, i.e. bass traps, installed? On my list, that is right after speaker position and just before electronic correction.

For me, subwoofer position is dictated by other factors and my room has no parallel surfaces. 'Harmon" can't be employed in my room and wouldn't work if it could. I do have a good amount of Studiotips SuperChunk corner bass traps, and now I need an AS-EQ1 to take my system the rest of the way to being all it can be.

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Well just got the new SVS newsletter....
Here it is, if anyone is interested in reading it... a little talk about the new EQ
Hopefully more info to come soon...

http://www.svsound.com/Newsletter/20...wsletter08.pdf
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Well just got the new SVS newsletter....
Here it is, if anyone is interested in reading it... a little talk about the new EQ
Hopefully more info to come soon...

http://www.svsound.com/Newsletter/20...wsletter08.pdf

Thanks.
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Which would be the recommended download format for the HDTracks CD mentioned in the newsletter, AIFF or FLAC ?


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Which would be the recommended download format for the HDTracks CD mentioned in the newsletter, AIFF or FLAC ?


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Both are great formats... I would shoot for FLAC myself, but either are very good quality...
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It looks like the Audyssey is an AutoEq device, but it will smooth response for multiple locations and multiple subs. It also looks like you need to be trained/certified to purchase the Pro software to be able to tweak it beyond the auto setup function.

I'm not a skeptic of what appears to be new technologies, but I never jump on board until others prove it will float.

The Anti Mode 8033 is fully automatic and can handle all the subs you want as long as they are after the unit on the sub cable.

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The Anti Mode 8033 is fully automatic and can handle all the subs you want as long as they are after the unit on the sub cable.

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What is the Anti Mode 8033?
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What is the Anti Mode 8033?

Check out the "Best EQ under $400 thread" on this forum.

I'm hoping the SVS EQ will do whatever the 8033 does and more given it will be twice the cost ...

 

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What is the Anti Mode 8033?

See this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=8033

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See this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=8033

Thanks. This device is for one sub only, isn't it?
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Appreciate the thoughts of the Anti mode 8033, it looks like a promising unit, but lets keep this thread dedicated to the SVS AS-EQ1.

SVS, any new updates for us...?

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Not to play devil's advocate for the hell of it - but I'd be interested in learning what the differences are between the 8033 and the AS-EQ1, as we know so far. I think that is kind of relevant.

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Not to play devil's advocate for the hell of it - but I'd be interested in learning what the differences are between the 8033 and the AS-EQ1, as we know so far. I think that is kind of relevant.

I suggest that you go to Audyssey's site and read about their technology. If regular equalizers are checkers, the 8033 may be chess, but Audyssey is 3D chess.
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Cough.

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I suggest that you go to Audyssey's site and read about their technology. If regular equalizers are checkers, the 8033 may be chess, but Audyssey is 3D chess.

Excellent analogy...
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Cough.

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