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If you can fit it and can afford it, just get a 15" and be done with it. (maybe )

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If you can fit it and can afford it, just get a 15" and be done with it. (maybe )
I did no quite understand what he was talking about but today a guy I met in a stereo shop told me that I would be better off going with two HSU MK4s (12" woofer) rather than one HSU UL15 . It had something to do with the way the Martin Logan Motion 40s Floor Speakers are built that causes problems with the 15" subwoofers.

Any idea what that might be?
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I did no quite understand what he was talking about but today a guy I met in a stereo shop told me that I would be better off going with two HSU MK4s (12" woofer) rather than one HSU UL15 . It had something to do with the way the Martin Logan Motion 40s Floor Speakers are built that causes problems with the 15" subwoofers.

Any idea what that might be?
You didn't understand what he was talking about because he didn't understand what he was talking about. There is no reason a 12" would work better than a 15" with respect to bass. On the other hand two subs do have some real advantages over a single sub. One on one, I think the ULS-15 is a better sub, but I would rather have two VTF2s or VTF3s over a single ULS-15 if I had to choose. The best, of course, is dual ULS-15s.
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Im not sure why a sub would have any bearing on front speakers.

If you already had a VTF2 MK4, I say buy a second if you could. Since you are buying #1 , get a 15".

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Hsu speakers and consumer Dolby Atmos

I was thinking about the home version of Atmos and it occurred to me that Hsu's speaker line has a big advantage with respect to this Atmos. First of all, Atmos calls for either 'atmos enabled' speakers or ceiling speakers, both with the character of narrow dispersion. Well, the Hsu HIW in-wall speakers would work fine for a in-ceiling speaker, and, thanks to the horn, it has good controlled directivity, so well-controlled dispersion, which is a big plus with respect to the consumer version of Atmos. Atmos speakers are all about controlled directivity. No dipoles and no bipoles, just monopoles, so some HB-1s would serve well for surround speakers. Hsu is inadvertently in a very good position to offer an 'Atmos' package if they cared to.
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Right now all I want out of HSU research is to know when they are releasing a new sub. I'm happy with my 15H's but I could be convinced to trade up with proper incentive.

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They have been awfully quiet over there. Hsu has been in the game a long time, since 1991, so I wonder if the good Dr is looking to retire. Their last product introduction was in 2010 with the VTF15h, not counting the updates on the (minor) VTF subs. Hsu has only announced products when they are ready to ship though, so if they are working on something, they wouldn't talk about it. Personally, I am hoping they are cooking up something killer, but who knows. I'd love to see a serious update on the ULS-15 or maybe something like a ULS-12 (or ULS-18 [hey maybe a VTF18h!])
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I wish they'd go back to having more finish options.
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2 VTF 18H's for me, please.

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1)So how do you know how much output you need?  2) I thought the VTF-15H had less port noise than the VTF-F3s  .3) Also, I remember people saying that the they could FEEL the 15 more.

1)  As to your first question, that depends on the size of your room and what your listening habits/requirements are.
 
2)  I doubt the VTF-15 would have any less port noise than the VTF-3.  Dual 4" ports is A LOT of port area for a 12" sub, and I have not seen anything to indicate port noise on this sub is an issue.  It is barely an issue on its sister sub, the Outlaw LFM1-EX, and it has smaller ports.  This is not to say the VTF15 has an issue with port noise, although just about any ported sub can be made to generate port noise when pushed hard enough, although a well designed sub should not do so regularly.
 
3) I agree, you would be able to feel the 15 more if you played it loud enough that the VTF3 could not keep up.  The VTF15 has higher output.
I recently upgraded (albeit very slight of an upgrade) from a VTF-3 MK4 to a VTF-15H and here are my thoughts....

Yes, you definitely notice more a presence of the 15H over the VTF-3 Mk4. This is comparing both subs running in EQ2 Q 5 (both ports open)... Where I noticed most of my upgrade was EQ2 Q 7 (both ports open). This sub is just awesome and to my ears sounded much better than the Mk4. I never hated the VTF-3 Mk4 but I also wanted some a bit more! Unfortunately my room will not allow for a 2nd 15H which makes me sad.

Lastly, you can definitely tell a difference in port noise (as mentioned above) with EQ2 Q7 and both ports open. Demoing different scenes from Tron Legacy and War of the Worlds I noticed a cleaner sound that I was not getting with the VTF-3.
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2 VTF 18H's for me, please.
God, if they created a VTF18 that would really mess with me on upgrading! I watched Raid 2 yesterday and there is some LFE!

We say bayformers 4 at the theater, which has crappy bass, but I can tell there are a lot of scenes that will be fun at home with the blu-ray.

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God, if they created a VTF18 that would really mess with me on upgrading! I watched Raid 2 yesterday and there is some LFE!

We say bayformers 4 at the theater, which has crappy bass, but I can tell there are a lot of scenes that will be fun at home with the blu-ray.
I ordered Raid2 from Amazon yesterday. Never watched the first one.

Watched Transformers on release weekend and thought it was a horrible movie.

How would the 18H mess up your upgrading?
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"mess with me", as in, Id feel the need to buy more

Yeah, 4 was a letdown after 3, which was great IMO. 4 reminded me of 2 and how it was a little bit of a mess with a lot of holes. I hope it is just a product of trying to take the first 3 and move them into a new story without a whole reboot. We will see how 5 does.

There is so much to the story, and Prime needs to die at some point.

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