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post #6391 of 6394 Old 08-29-2014, 05:52 AM
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There is a VTF3 mk4 in the Hsu B-stock section for 607, or $706 shipped. That isn't much more costly than a VTF2 on sale and it is a beastly subwoofer.
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There is a VTF3 mk4 in the Hsu B-stock section for 607, or $706 shipped. That isn't much more costly than a VTF2 on sale and it is a beastly subwoofer.
That is nice, but I'd really rather have the down firing model though.
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If you are talking about the LFE crossover, you want it at 120hz. The crossover for your other speakers should be set for the speakers capabilities.

I cross all my Klipsch at 80hz, and run the fronts as "Small" and the center as "Small". LFE xover of 120hz.
When I got into this hobby everyone told me to run my satelites at 80 and cross my sub at 120. This was a rule of thumb I followed for a long time but was never completely satisfied as my sub was very localized during more mid-bass action in movies and music. Now I keep everything at 80hz and notice a bigger difference. Hell, id cross my sat's lower if they could perform in the 40s and 50s with decent respect! I have the HSU HB-1's and they are very capable of giving a decent mid-bass punch of 80hz and I don't feel the need to fill the missing gap, I would suspect your Klispch speakers are probably the same? I could see the 80/120 rule being applied in speakers which are less than capable of giving a decent mid-bass presentation, or massive roll-off occurs right at or just before 80hz. However you Kilipsch speakers should be more than capable of playing down to 80hz at a respectable (just not as loud as the sub). Just curious if the localization of 120hz really bothers you or have you tried crossing at 80hz?
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Not sure what you mean.

I do not cross my sub at 80, my speakers are all set to 80 and small, which means they play everything down to 80hz, and the rest is directed to the sub + the LFE content (keeps sub from being localized). The LFE channel is completely different. It can have content up to 120hz that is meant for the sub only, and should, so the rule is to keep your LFE channel at 120hz so you arent clipping anything meant for the sub.

If you set the LFE channel at 80hz, anything above that meant for the sub goes, well, no where. It is lost IIRC. Granted, this is a small issue in content, but the speaker crossover and LFE crossover are two different things and functions.

Now setting your fronts to something higher than 80 when they can play that low is definitely a bad move, because you are sending content to the sub that it does not need and it can be very localized. I used to have small fronts that had to be set at 100hz, it was kinda annoying.

I never know where my subs are, but I sure know they are doing something.

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