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I was going to sell one of my VTF15's to a friend and buy the newer version, but to be honest the duals already sound so good I just dont feel like messing with it.

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I was going to sell one of my VTF15's to a friend and buy the newer version, but to be honest the duals already sound so good I just dont feel like messing with it.


Exactly! It's not really worth the hassle unless you have a room that dual 15H's can't handle. I don't know who here does but I can tell you that the number isn't that large. The missing upgrade path..either by trade in or an easy driver upgrade is a bar to the sales of the MK2 series.

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Dr, Kevin or anyone else - any recommendations for upward firing Dolby atmos modules? I'm trying to decide what modules to put on top of MY HB1 LR bookshelves.

I could just get a couple more hb1's and mount them on wall like front heights. But apparently the modules would sound better. I can't have in ceiling speakers.
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Another thread told me I coud request to have hb1s tweeter rotated when I order, for putting them up horizontally.

Do hb1s have a 'wide dispersion' ?
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I don't know if Hsu would rotate the tweeters for you, I would guess so, but that is a simple thing you can do yourself as well. All it takes is 5 minutes and a philips head screwdriver. Just unscrew the horn and rotate it 90 degrees and screw it back in.
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Hi DaveyMac,

We usually don't. As shadyJ stated, it's actually pretty easy to rotate the horn on the HB-1 Mk2 and HC-1 Mk2. We don't have any recommendations for upward firing atmos speakers. Actually, a few of our customers have told us that they came across more issues, than anything, when using those speakers, such as they could still localize the atmos material from the upward firing speakers, muddying the front stage, etc. Which we figured would be the case. I wouldn't say the HB-1 Mk2s have a very wide dispersion as they do have a horn loaded tweeter for a more controlled directivity. We did this in order to have keep the energy more uniform going into the room, especially through the crossover. That way it would have a more smoother off-axis response. It also helps reduce early reflections in the room in order to make it less room dependent.

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Hi DaveyMac,

We usually don't. As shadyJ stated, it's actually pretty easy to rotate the horn on the HB-1 Mk2 and HC-1 Mk2. We don't have any recommendations for upward firing atmos speakers. Actually, a few of our customers have told us that they came across more issues, than anything, when using those speakers, such as they could still localize the atmos material from the upward firing speakers, muddying the front stage, etc. Which we figured would be the case. I wouldn't say the HB-1 Mk2s have a very wide dispersion as they do have a horn loaded tweeter for a more controlled directivity. We did this in order to have keep the energy more uniform going into the room, especially through the crossover. That way it would have a more smoother off-axis response. It also helps reduce early reflections in the room in order to make it less room dependent.
Thanks for the detailed response, that makes sense. I'm very happy with your product so I was just hoping to to stick with Hsu for top atmos speakers too.

I'll just try to find some wider dispersion speakers for the top speakers.
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How does the VTF-15H compare to the new VTF3Mk5? Seems like the old VTF15H is now slightly cheaper after shipping but i'm guessing the Mk5 is still the better deal?
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MK5HP Has it beat I'd think. The Amp is about twice as powerful and the mk5 beats out the 15H according to HSU website. Only thing the 15H wins on is 16hz by 1.3db. 12hz maybe another story. The MK5HP wins by anywhere from 1db to 3.8db elsewhere. CEA Rating again is a pretty big win for the MK5HP

MK5HP in bold 15H in italic, one port open.
HZ - SPL
16 - 108 109.3
20 - 114.4 113.4
25 -119.1 115
31.5 - 122.6 119.2
40 - 126.1 122.3
50 - 126.5 122.7
63 - 125.8 122.9
80 - 125.4 123

MK5 and 15H CEA 2010 Rating One port
20 to 31.5 - 118.7 115
40 to 63 - 126.1 122.6

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Wonder how long the VTF15 MK2 is going to be on back order with the port problems...

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MK5HP Has it beat I'd think. The Amp is about twice as powerful and the mk5 beats out the 15H according to HSU website. Only thing the 15H wins on is 16hz by 1.3db. 12hz maybe another story. The MK5HP wins by anywhere from 1db to 3.8db elsewhere. CEA Rating again is a pretty big win for the MK5HP

MK5HP in bold 15H in italic, one port open.
HZ - SPL
16 - 108 109.3
20 - 114.4 113.4
25 -119.1 115
31.5 - 122.6 119.2
40 - 126.1 122.3
50 - 126.5 122.7
63 - 125.8 122.9
80 - 125.4 123

MK5 and 15H CEA 2010 Rating One port
20 to 31.5 - 118.7 115
40 to 63 - 126.1 122.6

This for the 15h mk1?

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Wonder how long the VTF15 MK2 is going to be on back order with the port problems...

Can you elaborate?



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Port of Cali Union crappola holding up shipments. It has affected their sub stock.

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Port of Cali Union crappola holding up shipments. It has affected their sub stock.

Thought you meant sub ports


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As of today on VTF15MK2 backorders:

" We're in the process of clearing them out right now. Though we still won't be able to get to the current orders until the next batch, which will likely arrive towards the end of this month or early April.

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The Hsu Research Sales Team"


My friend has started bugging me again, so I may still order a MK2 and sell him my older model.

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This for the 15h mk1?
Yea, he was looking at the MK1 that is now on sale for the price of the newer MK5HP. The MK5HP appears to beat the MK1 fairly handily, and is on par with the little more expensive MK2 until the lowest of hz as its tuned to 16hz and the MK5 is only to 18.

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Also the VTF-15H does have a larger port cross-sectional area so it would be able to play cleaner (with less port noise) than the VTF-3 Mk5 HP in the ultra low bass.

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Yea, he was looking at the MK1 that is now on sale for the price of the newer MK5HP. The MK5HP appears to beat the MK1 fairly handily, and is on par with the little more expensive MK2 until the lowest of hz as its tuned to 16hz and the MK5 is only to 18.
Yes, I was looking at the Mk1 VTF-15H since it's now slightly cheaper than the Mk5HP after shipping.

Thanks for the data guys.

Seems like the Mk5 beats it fairly handily (except in the ultra low-bass) for only a minor increase in pricing and you can always get a second Mk5HP easily since it's a current model. Seems like a no brainer.
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Yes, I was looking at the Mk1 VTF-15H since it's now slightly cheaper than the Mk5HP after shipping.

Thanks for the data guys.

Seems like the Mk5 beats it fairly handily (except in the ultra low-bass) for only a minor increase in pricing and you can always get a second Mk5HP easily since it's a current model. Seems like a no brainer.
I absolutely love mine. For the money I don't think there is a better $800 to $900 (shipped) sub-woofer out right now. The MK2 was just a little to big for my space restraints but it is 95% of the performance of the big bad boy for a little less money and smaller form factor. Also like I said I would take the MK5HP over the 15H MK1 due to it besting the MK1 in everything but 16hz and lower. Some movies don't even go that deep, while all go higher where the MK5HP would be a noticeable difference.

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