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Just finished Arrival and what a treat the sound and movie is! Let the credits roll and listen/feel the soundtrack too! I rented this and it has the 7.1 lossless sound thankfully. This is one I will buy and I will buy the soundtrack!
My Arrival UHD HDR disk arrived from Amazon this afternoon. It was a blind buy so I am really looking forward to seeing it.
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Man, I really want a 15h mkii but I would have to vaseline that thing up to get it to fit in my space...
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My Arrival UHD HDR disk arrived from Amazon this afternoon. It was a blind buy so I am really looking forward to seeing it.


I think you will like it!


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Vtf3-mk5 shipped today. Replacing dual sunfire sds12 in my living room system. Always wanted to try a hsu subwoofer. Theater room subs are all diy stereo integrity ht18 in mini Marty, but wife approved the look of the hsu for living room duty.

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I think you will like it!
I really did like Arrival in UHD HDR. The only knock on it is that it has a very dark palate. At first, I feared that might have been caused by the HDR10 implementation by my TV. It wasn't though. Today, I watched it again, this time using the 1080p BD. Although it may have been a bit brighter than the UHD HDR version, it was still very dark. I think all of that was the director's intent. Much of the film portrays rainy or foggy conditions and is also very monochromatic.

As much as I enjoyed every aspect of the film, I was most impressed by its wonderful DTS-HD MA 7.1 soundtrack. It received Oscar nominations for both Sound Mixing and Sound Editing. I am such an Atmos snob that I nearly didn't buy this disk because it didn't have Atmos audio. That would have been a mistake. Arrival has one of the very best soundtracks I have heard, Atmos or no Atmos. The LFE was awe inspiring.
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I really did like Arrival in UHD HDR. The only knock on it is that it has a very dark palate. At first, I feared that might have been caused by the HDR10 implementation by my TV. It wasn't though. Today, I watched it again, this time using the 1080p BD. Although it may have been a bit brighter than the UHD HDR version, it was still very dark. I think all of that was the director's intent. Much of the film portrays rainy or foggy conditions and is also very monochromatic.



As much as I enjoyed every aspect of the film, I was most impressed by its wonderful DTS-HD MA 7.1 soundtrack. It received Oscar nominations for both Sound Mixing and Sound Editing. I am such an Atmos snob that I nearly didn't buy this disk because it didn't have Atmos audio. That would have been a mistake. Arrival has one of the very best soundtracks I have heard, Atmos or no Atmos. The LFE was awe inspiring.


Very cool and I did notice the grey/dark tone of the film when I saw it at the theater. It looked a bit better at home with the standard BD. The sound is just awesome and I can't believe this didn't get that Atmos treatment! All in all it is a great soundtrack!


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Just how musical are the VTFs when sealed? Do most of you set them and forget them or are you tweaking it as needed? Love the concept, just not sure how practical it is. Clearly moving these subs (VTF3.5 or bigger) isn't an easy chore, especially when adjusting gain and q control.

Anyone enjoy these subs for both, music and movies? I'm sure they are exceptional for movies, how well do they do for music, tight, accurate bass?

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Just how musical are the VTFs when sealed? Do most of you set them and forget them or are you tweaking it as needed? Love the concept, just not sure how practical it is. Clearly moving these subs (VTF3.5 or bigger) isn't an easy chore, especially when adjusting gain and q control.



Anyone enjoy these subs for both, music and movies? I'm sure they are exceptional for movies, how well do they do for music, tight, accurate bass?



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I set my VTF15HMK2 with the one port open for both music and movies. I do watch more movies than music but I have an extensive vinyl collection that includes soundtracks and electronic music. I also have another ported sub behind my couch that is more of a Frankenstein 15" powered by a crown amp. Also my L/Rs are Klipsch KLF20's that have dual 10" woofers. All in all I have enough bass for music with this in a large basement. I am sure I can improve my midbass accuracy but for now I am happy with it.

Some folks really like the sealed (MBM) ULS 15" that HSU sells so that could be an option too.


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My VTF3.5 is going to be here tomorrow. Looking forward to testing it out. So my guess is if I add a port plug I should rerun ARC on my Anthem? Im thinking I will try it out without the plugs and then try 1 plug and see which one sounds better and then run ARC but I was wondering is it better to try it with room correction since that's how it will be used.
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I set my VTF15HMK2 with the one port open for both music and movies. I do watch more movies than music but I have an extensive vinyl collection that includes soundtracks and electronic music. I also have another ported sub behind my couch that is more of a Frankenstein 15" powered by a crown amp. Also my L/Rs are Klipsch KLF20's that have dual 10" woofers. All in all I have enough bass for music with this in a large basement. I am sure I can improve my midbass accuracy but for now I am happy with it.

Some folks really like the sealed (MBM) ULS 15" that HSU sells so that could be an option too.


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Thanks BSZ, unfortunately the only bass option for me is the sub. Im ready to replace my satellite system but even then I would probably be going with either bookshelf or towers with 6.5" cones at best.

My listening had always been mostly 90% movies/tv but now that I have a true man cave I've got the itch to enjoy my music again too. I know the SVS PB1000 wasn't ideal for music but with the variable tunning of these subs they are probably as good as it gets to accommodate the best of both worlds.
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So my guess is if I add a port plug I should rerun ARC on my Anthem?
Whenever you make a configuration change like that you should always re-run room correction.
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My VTF3.5 is going to be here tomorrow. Looking forward to testing it out. So my guess is if I add a port plug I should rerun ARC on my Anthem? Im thinking I will try it out without the plugs and then try 1 plug and see which one sounds better and then run ARC but I was wondering is it better to try it with room correction since that's how it will be used.
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Whenever you make a configuration change like that you should always re-run room correction.

Normally when you make any changes you would want to rerun any room correction, but in this case I don't believe so:


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The rationale behind setting the sub to the different modes is this: We want Audyssey to make the room 'disappear' - equalize out the room effects. To do this, we want the subwoofer to have as flat and extended response as possible when measured outdoors (no room effect). Hence set it to one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7. Once you have removed the room effect, you can enjoy the different subwoofer characteristics of the different tune for the sub - effects of the Q control, extension, etc.
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Sorry for the redundant questions as I know you've been through this before. So by setting the Q at its highest we get higher output which interacts with the room the most? Then scale it back to what you want?
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No. Not a question of interacting with the room more or less. Interaction with the room stays the same.

With Q at 0.7, response is flattest (lower Q rolls off the deepest bass but sounds tighter). We want the sub to be as flat as possible before running Audyssey so Audyssey is just equalizing the room, not the sub. If you set the Q lower before running Audyssey, Audyssey will try to EQ the sub flat and it no longer sound as tight.
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Normally when you make any changes you would want to rerun any room correction, but in this case I don't believe so:
I'm not sure in what context those excerpts were derived, but if you change the profile of the output response you always want to re-run your room correction. If you don't you'll end up using an EQ curve from a different response, which negates it's effectiveness to a large extent. Plugging/unplugging a port would produce a material difference in the output characteristics, so resetting the EQ would be appropriate.
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I'm not sure in what context those excerpts were derived, but if you change the profile of the output response you always want to re-run your room correction. If you don't you'll end up using an EQ curve from a different response, which negates it's effectiveness to a large extent. Plugging/unplugging a port would produce a material difference in the output characteristics, so resetting the EQ would be appropriate.
Those excerpts are also from the HSU instruction manual...
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I'm not sure in what context those excerpts were derived, but if you change the profile of the output response you always want to re-run your room correction. If you don't you'll end up using an EQ curve from a different response, which negates it's effectiveness to a large extent. Plugging/unplugging a port would produce a material difference in the output characteristics, so resetting the EQ would be appropriate.
The way I understood mjpearce023‘s post was in regards to rerunning ARC each time he changes the sub’s configuration which would nullify the effects of the changes. The posts by the good doctor that I sited, 3910 and 3915 of the VTF-15H thread (The Official HSU VTF-15H Thread , dealt with why, after initial setup with one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7, you don’t want to rerun room correction after changing the port config, EQ & Q.

I rushed my post because I'm at work and was running off of one cup of coffee so I may be off base here.
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Just how musical are the VTFs when sealed? Do most of you set them and forget them or are you tweaking it as needed? Love the concept, just not sure how practical it is. Clearly moving these subs (VTF3.5 or bigger) isn't an easy chore, especially when adjusting gain and q control.

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I love my VTF-2 Mk4 for music as well as movies. I have aging Bose 401 speakers featuring 5-1/2" woofers aimed at the MLP and side wall. They can do down to 60ish Hz (due to a chamber with tuned port), but get unreliable below about 80 Hz. Adding the Hsu sub and configuring the AVR for bass management (crossing over at 120 Hz, running their test disk made me all googly eyes listening and feeling the bass in the organ symphony selection. I've got it configured with one port open, usually. I just stuffed the second plug in for giggles.

Since then, I've been listening to all sorts of music: The National, The Killers, orchestral and electronic film soundtracks, a LOT of well recorded jazz (e.g. Diana Krall's Stepping Out, Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section, Bill Evans Sunday at the Vanguard), and can wholeheartedly say YES, the Hsu is superb for music. Someone already linked to Jim Wilson's review of the ULS-15 (wow, so that's what replaced the MBM in their lineup; I wants one!). I concur with him, it provides the oomph needed for really low and front-position kick drums, and helps out with bass and such. I'm listening to film soundtracks over my Chromecast at the moment, and boy oh boy, the depth is wonderful. OTOH, I watched MIDNIGHT SPECIAL and TRIPLE 9 this past week, and during scenes with some ULF, even with the volume low for late night viewing, the VTF-2 rumbled and tickled me confidently.


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I set my VTF15HMK2 with the one port open for both music and movies. I do watch more movies than music but I have an extensive vinyl collection that includes soundtracks and electronic music. I also have another ported sub behind my couch that is more of a Frankenstein 15" powered by a crown amp. Also my L/Rs are Klipsch KLF20's that have dual 10" woofers. All in all I have enough bass for music with this in a large basement. I am sure I can improve my midbass accuracy but for now I am happy with it.

Some folks really like the sealed (MBM) ULS 15" that Hsu sells so that could be an option too.
See above. I wants one. Too bad I'm so enamored of my VTF-2 that I can't let go.


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Thanks BSZ, unfortunately the only bass option for me is the sub. Im ready to replace my satellite system but even then I would probably be going with either bookshelf or towers with 6.5" cones at best.

My listening had always been mostly 90% movies/TV but now that I have a true man cave I've got the itch to enjoy my music again too. I know the SVS PB1000 wasn't ideal for music but with the variable tuning of these subs they are probably as good as it gets to accommodate the best of both worlds.
I'd look at the ULS-15 mentioned, but frankly, I can't hear any deficiency in the VTF-2 mk4 (down-firing) that I have. I actually was considering getting a VTF-1 and their discontinued MBM mid-base module but @HsuKevin talked me out of it, convinced me the single VTF-2 would suffice. He was spot on.
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Recently had an issue with the standby power on my Hsu VTF-3. I was watching Nocturnal Animals the other day (great movie) and the sub kept turning off and on throughout the movie. I could tell because I could see the faint glow of the red or green light indicating off and on. The sub would wake up when there was enough bass, but it went into standby mode several times throughout the movie. Is this normal? Is leaving the sub on all the time a legit solution? I don't want to deal with manually turning the sub on and off when in use. Sub gain is at 12 o'clock (MCACC didn't even detect the sub at the manuals suggested 9 o'clock position), EQ1, Q 0.5.
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People that are in need of a great movie and great bass movie, Hacksaw Ridge fits the bill perfectly!
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People that are in need of a great movie and great bass movie, Hacksaw Ridge fits the bill perfectly!
Indeed! Not only does Hacksaw Ridge have world class LFE, its TrueHD Atmos soundtrack is the best I have heard yet.
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