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VTF-3 MK5, miniDSP 2X4 HD,

does anyone have experience setting this up? Especially what gain did you set the VTF at?


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I have two of them and love them! I have both of mine set around 11 o'clock on the "gain", Q Control @ 0.7, EQ 1, and right port plugged. You may have to experiment a little and find your taste.


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I have two of them and love them! I have both of mine set around 11 o'clock on the "gain", Q Control @ 0.7, EQ 1, and right port plugged. You may have to experiment a little and find your taste.


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Thanks but with the miniDSP it processes the signal and puts out its own voltage so I was wondering if anyone had implemented the miniDSP and what gain you set the VTF after implementing the miniDSP?


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Yea, not sure on that!


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I had an odd issue with my VTF-3 MK5 tonight. When I first turned on my system to watch a show, I slowly realized that something was missing. I walked over to the sub and noticed the light was green, but I wasn't getting much if any sound output from it. I power cycled both it and my receiver (Onkyo 816) but the sub remained anemic.

I then shut everything off, unplugged the power and the subwoofer cables as well as pulled and reinstalled the fuse. After doing this, it began working again. Is there a chance that something could be wrong? All of the cables felt very tight before I pulled them. Perhaps it was just a fluke?
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No post on here since August 6? Where are you? Is that good or bad? Maybe that means no one is having any issues with their subs?

Well I have something… as some of you know I have the dual VTF-3 MK5 subs. I tried out the PB-2000 before going to these subs. There are two scenes in two different movies that I tried out this past week that I haven't tried since the PB-2000. Is it crazy that the PB-2000 sounded better on those two scenes as far as getting lower? Or that it sounded better maybe getting lower? If it was better, why?


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No post on here since August 6? Where are you? Is that good or bad? Maybe that means no one is having any issues with their subs?

Well I have something… as some of you know I have the dual VTF-3 MK5 subs. I tried out the PB-2000 before going to these subs. There are two scenes in two different movies that I tried out this past week that I haven't tried since the PB-2000. Is it crazy that the PB-2000 sounded better on those two scenes as far as getting lower? Or that it sounded better maybe getting lower? If it was better, why?


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What movie and scenes were they?
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OK, I've been lurking here for the past few days, as I'm pretty much decided on a Hsu VTF-3 MK5 HP, and have been reading past forum posts. I came across this response from Jim Wilson, after having read some of his very informative reviews. Loved the reviews, but his response below had me falling out of my chair! Sorry to be so juvenile as to quote an eight month old post, but my already high opinion of Jim went to the next level with this.
I will eventually have some actual questions about speakers, but I'll have to stop laughing first.


[quote=JimWilson;49734873]<snip> Most people want an upgrade to be significant, and if that's so in your case the VTF-3 is likely the better option.

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What movie and scenes were they?


Sorry.. just saw this. The main one is in Captain America: Civil War where Cap is chasing Bucky and Bucky knocks a dude off of a motorcycle and takes the bike. It goes up in the air and spins around and the bass gets really low there.


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OK, I've been lurking here for the past few days, as I'm pretty much decided on a Hsu VTF-3 MK5 HP, and have been reading past forum posts. I came across this response from Jim Wilson, after having read some of his very informative reviews. Loved the reviews, but his response below had me falling out of my chair! Sorry to be so juvenile as to quote an eight month old post, but my already high opinion of Jim went to the next level with this.
I will eventually have some actual questions about speakers, but I'll have to stop laughing first.


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Most people want an upgrade to be significant, and if that's so in your case the VTF-3 is likely the better option.

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Emotiva basX subs are supposed to be good for the money, this one is in your price range.
https://emotiva.com/product/basx-s10/
This one is a little, but not much, higher.
https://emotiva.com/product/basx-s12/
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I deleted that within seconds of posting it. Unfortunately, the wheels of AVS turn slowly.
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Sorry.. just saw this. The main one is in Captain America: Civil War where Cap is chasing Bucky and Bucky knocks a dude off of a motorcycle and takes the bike. It goes up in the air and spins around and the bass gets really low there.


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I believe I have that movie at home so I'll take a listen to it tonight and in the demo room tomorrow and I'll get back to you. I recall it having a pretty good bass sweep, but I wasn't really over impressed with it. It's been a while since I've seen that movie. I forgot from previous posts, but have you taken the in-room response of the subs?

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I believe I have that movie at home so I'll take a listen to it tonight and in the demo room tomorrow and I'll get back to you. I recall it having a pretty good bass sweep, but I wasn't really over impressed with it. It's been a while since I've seen that movie. I forgot from previous posts, but have you taken the in-room response of the subs?

That's a good bass sweep scene and also around 4:00 minutes or so (can't remember exact time) into the first The Lord of the Rings when the explosion goes across the battlefield. It gets low and sweeps across the house. The bike scene with the one PB-2000 blew my mind when I first heard it right after I got that sub. Even my girlfriend said "that other sub sounded better there" lol after listening with the new subs. I will say since that post I changed the subs over to EQ2 and it made a difference. They get lower and those scenes sound better. I have Phase at 0, Q @ 0.7, EQ2, and left port open. But a few of those scenes seemed lower or smoother on the PB-2000. Yes @HsuKevin I used REW but honestly what looked better on a computer screen sounded worse. I have both subs in the two best spots I could put them in my room. I sent the mic back and deleted it off my laptop. It was too much and too frustrating. I spent two whole days off from work sliding subs all over the place and running sweep after sweep. I could never get a good flat graph. The better the graph looked the worse the bass was at my MLP. It sounds pretty good where they are and maybe I'm expecting too much. By getting the new Denon X4300H AVR with MultEQ XT32 and dual SUB EQ helped a lot compared to the Pioneer I had. I have questioned my sub purchase a few times for spending more money.. but oh well.


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So on EQ 1 you don't get a deeper sweep?

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Not by ear or feel..no.


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OK. I would give us a call and talk to Dr. Hsu to see if he has any other insights. The VTF-3 Mk5 in one port open, EQ 1 plays down to 14 Hz +/- 3 dB (anechoic), so it does give you quite a bit of extension there. If you feel that it's not giving you that, it's likely due to room acoustic interaction, or the phase between the two subs placed in the room.

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That's a good bass sweep scene and also around 4:00 minutes or so (can't remember exact time) into the first The Lord of the Rings when the explosion goes across the battlefield. It gets low and sweeps across the house. The bike scene with the one PB-2000 blew my mind when I first heard it right after I got that sub. Even my girlfriend said "that other sub sounded better there" lol after listening with the new subs. I will say since that post I changed the subs over to EQ2 and it made a difference. They get lower and those scenes sound better. I have Phase at 0, Q @ 0.7, EQ2, and left port open. But a few of those scenes seemed lower or smoother on the PB-2000. Yes @HsuKevin I used REW but honestly what looked better on a computer screen sounded worse. I have both subs in the two best spots I could put them in my room. I sent the mic back and deleted it off my laptop. It was too much and too frustrating. I spent two whole days off from work sliding subs all over the place and running sweep after sweep. I could never get a good flat graph. The better the graph looked the worse the bass was at my MLP. It sounds pretty good where they are and maybe I'm expecting too much. By getting the new Denon X4300H AVR with MultEQ XT32 and dual SUB EQ helped a lot compared to the Pioneer I had. I have questioned my sub purchase a few times for spending more money.. but oh well.


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I'll throw a few things out there


1. Despite the hate they sometimes get on AVS, SVS still build good subs. The PB-2000 is no slouch - especially under 30hz. So the fact that you've only found 2 brief scenes - out of all the stuff you've watched since upgrading to the VTF-3's - that the PB-2000 does better at, should tell you that it was a worthy upgrade to the Hsu's.


2. Due to its ultra-flat anechoic frequency response, when put in a room the PB-2000 can have a heavy bottom end due to room gain. This might benefit these "sine wave sweep" type scenes than more typical bass content. It may also be why many feel the midbass frequencies are lacking with the PBs
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Certainly SVS makes great subwoofers! I've met a few of them at RMAF and you can tell they have a passion for what they do. I have some feedback from Dr. Hsu and I'll PM them over to you Falconsfan71.
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Seen a VTF-3 Mk5 HP in the outlet couldn't resist.. Now to save for the second one..

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I saw that in the outlet late last week. I was told it had some light scratches on it, nothing major. Not sure how old it is. With the VTF-3 being on sale for $862 now, couldn't justify buying the b-stock for $790. Let us know how you like it when it rolls in.

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Any benefit to using a sub platform (Auralex, IsoAcoustics etc) for my VTF-2 MK5? or just sit it on the floor (it will be on a carpeted basement floor). Thanks!
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Any benefit to using a sub platform (Auralex, IsoAcoustics etc) for my VTF-2 MK5? or just sit it on the floor (it will be on a carpeted basement floor). Thanks!
If there is a concrete slab under the carpet, this will make it harder to get a tactile feel out of the sub at the listening position. The upside is some say concrete sounds a little cleaner because it doesn't vibrate or resonate like a wood subfloor. But sitting the sub on a pad won't change this either way.
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What about tile? Do you need to use a pad if you have tile rather than carpet? If yes, is it for sound quality or more so it doesn't slide easily (which could be fixed with some sticky feet too)?
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Tile generally is a pretty rigid surface, so I don't think a pad would help either way. One suggestion I can offer is to use the foam tray that comes with the VTF-2 Mk5. Sit the sub on top of it to see if it makes any difference.

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