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You need to have Finding NEMO and it is in chapter 25--Darla! (1:18:16) (I attached the waterfall chart to this too)

I just thought it might be something fun for ALL SUBWOOFER users to take part in....just something friendly

I wondered if people could take out their SPL meter and play the Darla taps the Tank scene. It has Very strong bass centered around 30hz and for the most part doesn't have too much above or below that point....

Some things I learned to be sure of when using the SPL meter.
1. Use C-weighting FAST for this peak test
2. Use the MAX button if you have a digital Meter


I'm curious about a few things.
1. db registered using C-rating Fast and MAX (if avalible) on the Radio Shack SPL Meter from Listening Position...Just post uncorrected numbers...meaning, post exactly what your SPL meter shows....
2. db from 1 meter away (this should help get an accurate reading for everyone since LP varies)
3. Room size cubic feet
4. What subwoofer set up are you running?
5. What setting of Master Volume and what do you have your sub dialed in at?
****Note....when running this test turn off main speakers if possible so you are just measuring the subwoofer output


I'll start since I just watched it again and it gave me this idea

MASTER DATA LIST for DARLA SCENE---Updated 3/2/07 at 7:44am

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1. 101db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
2. 109db from 1 meter (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -10db Sub calibrated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

1. 103db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
2. 111db from 1 meter (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -8db Sub calibrated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

1. 104db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
2. 113db from 1 meter (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -6db Sub calibrated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

1. 107db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
2. 115db from 1 meter (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -4db Sub calibrated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

1. 107db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
2. 116db from 1 meter (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -3db Sub calibrated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)


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Results #1
1. 93 dB from Listening Position
2. 103 dB from 1 meter
3. 1560 with 2 fixed-openings into other rooms
4. SVS PB12-NSD/2
5. -10 dB (normal listening level) Sub calibrated to 70dB

Results #2
1. 101 dB from Listening Position
2. 109 dB from 1 meter
3. 1560 with 2 fixed-openings into other rooms
4. SVS PB12-NSD/2
5. -4 dB (to compare with you) Sub calibrated to 70dB


DrPainMD
1. 96db from Listening Position
2. 105db from 1 meter
3. 1310cuft (sealed)
4. SVS 25-31PCi (tuned to 22hz)
5. Master Volume -25db(my 75db reference is -15db using avr pink noise) Sub is calibrated to 75db on SPL meter (uncorrected) (-10db under reference)

1. 98db from Listening Position
2. 108db from 1 meter
3. 1310cuft (sealed)
4. SVS 25-31PCi (tuned to 22hz)
5. Master Volume -22db(my 75db reference is -15db using avr pink noise) Sub is calibrated to 75db on SPL meter (uncorrected) (-7db under reference)

1. 101db from Listening Position
2. 110db from 1 meter
3. 1310cuft (sealed)
4. SVS 25-31PCi (tuned to 22hz)
5. Master Volume -19db(my 75db reference is -15db using avr pink noise) ,Sub is calibrated to 75db on SPL meter (uncorrected) (-4db under reference)

cyberbri
1. 105.5dB on digital meter
2. haven't measured at 1m
3. 2800cf, open in rear
4. Hsu VTF-3 Mk2, Max Extension mode (1 port plugged), eq'd flat
5. -10 MV, sub calibrated 2~3dB flat

1. 107dB on digital meter
2. haven't measured at 1m
3. 2800cf, open in rear
4. Hsu VTF-3 Mk2, Max Extension mode (1 port plugged), eq'd flat
5. -7 MV, sub calibrated 2~3dB flat


Frockc
1. 106dB on very old digital meter 11-12ft away...
2. 115dB
3. 4000cf first level of a townhome open stairs to upper two levels and lower level
4. JL fathom 113
5. -15 MV, sub calibrated 75dB flat with speakers at 0 MV

1. 108dB on very old digital meter 11-12ft away...
2. 119dB
3. 4000cf first level of a townhome open stairs to upper two levels and lower level
4. JL fathom 113
5. -10 MV, sub calibrated 75dB flat with speakers

1. 110dB on very old digital meter 11-12ft away...
2. 119dB
3. 4000cf first level of a townhome open stairs to upper two levels and lower level
4. JL fathom 113
5. -5 MV, sub calibrated 75dB flat with speakers


kweezr
1. 108 at Listening Position
2. 115 at 1 meter
3. 6800cf great room with 14ft vaulted ceiling
4. SVS PB-Ultra/2, ss 20Hz
5. -5 MV, 4db hot, nearfield

vishal
1. 113 dB (13 feet away) at listening position
2. 121 dB (1 meter)
3. 2400 ft^3 living room, right wall completely open to 1500 ft^3 dining room/kitchen
4. Single JL Audio Fathom F113
5. 0 MV, sub calibrated flat to 85db with Avia


longfellowfan
1. 106 db using newest radio shack analog (fast on both)
2. 108 db from 1 meter
3. 1408 Cubic Feet. One open doorway and one 5.5'x3.5' opening
4. SVS PB-10-ISD
5. Master Volume -7db Sub Cal at 75db flat. No running hot for the test.


pdadi
1. 102 db using newest radio shack analog (fast on both)
2. 104 db from 1 meter
3. 2000 Cubic Feet. One open doorway and one 5.5'x3.5' opening and another one to stairs
4. Bic H-100
5. Master Volume -5 Sub Cal at 77db flat. 2 db hotter than speakers.


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1. 107 db at regular viewing spot with radio shack digital (fast on C)
2. 111 db from 1 meter
3. 3300 Cubic Feet. AV setup with on 10 foot wall and rest opens into dining area/stairway and on through to kitchen.
4. Old PB12 box with new NSD driver, so it's downfiring.
5. Master Volume -34 Sub Cal at 75db flat.


Flatsix
1 107 DB
2 120 db
3 2400 cuf
4 HSU 3.3 with one port open (max extension)----(no Turbo)
5 calibrated at 75 db

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1. 99db from listening postion
2. xxx-didn't try
3. 3000cu ft
4. a PB12-Plus colocated w/ PB12-ISD
5. Master Volume -12db Sub calibrated to 78db on SPL meter (+3db hot)


MKtheater
1. 110 db from Listening Position (analog SPL Meter-fast)
2. 115 db from 1 meter (analog SPL Meter-fast)
3. 2300cuft (sealed )
4. A single SVS PB12/plus/2 tuned in the 16 hz tune
5. Master Volume -10db Sub calibrated to 75db on SPL meter. Ref is 0, all speakers are set to 75 db's.

1. 111 db from Listening Position (analog SPL Meter-fast)
2. 116 db from 1 meter (analog SPL Meter-fast)
3. 2300cuft (sealed )
4. A single SVS PB12/plus/2 tuned in the 16 hz tune
5. Master Volume -5 db Sub calibrated to 75db on SPL meter. Ref is 0, all speakers are set to 75 db's.

1. 111 db from Listening Position (analog SPL Meter-fast)
2. 117 db from 1 meter (analog SPL Meter-fast)
3. 2300cuft (sealed )
4. A single SVS PB12/plus/2 tuned in the 16 hz tune
5. Master Volume 0 db Sub calibrated to 75db on SPL meter. Ref is 0, all speakers are set to 75 db's.

Here are the new numbers with 25 hz tune
1. 111 db from Listening Position (analog SPL Meter-fast)
2. 118 db from 1 meter (analog SPL Meter-fast)
3. 2300cuft (sealed )
4. A single SVS PB12/plus/2 tuned in the 25 hz tune
5. Master Volume -10db Sub calibrated to 75db on SPL meter. Ref is 0, all speakers are set to 75 db's.

1. 114 db from Listening Position (analog SPL Meter-fast)
2. 120 db from 1 meter (analog SPL Meter-fast)
3. 2300cuft (sealed )
4. A single SVS PB12/plus/2 tuned in the 25 hz tune
5. Master Volume -5 db Sub calibrated to 75db on SPL meter. Ref is 0, all speakers are set to 75 db's.

1. 116 db from Listening Position (analog SPL Meter-fast)
2. 122 db from 1 meter (analog SPL Meter-fast)
3. 2300cuft (sealed )
4. A single SVS PB12/plus/2 tuned in the 25 hz tune
5. Master Volume 0 db Sub calibrated to 75db on SPL meter. Ref is 0, all speakers are set to 75 db's.


Mojomike
1. 115 db in Listening area, about 14 ft.
2. 126 db 1 meter from ported sub, Behringer lighting up like a Christmas tree
3. 6120 cu ft. open room.
4. Two SB12Plus's and a 2 x 10" TC1000 6.5 cu ft. ported box
5. No volume settings listed


GOV
1. 111db from listening position (about 15 feet away)
2. not tested
3. 2000 cu ft open to kitchen
4. Mirage S12
5. -2dbMV MCACC calibrated just the sub on other speakers off


KingRSL
1. 100dB on analog meter
2. haven't measured at 1m
3. 2750cf, open to hallway
4. Hsu VTF-2 Mk3, Max Extension mode (1 port plugged)
5. "0" MV, sub calibrated +3dB

dmccombs
1) 104 Ddb at litening position (~12 feet from sub).
2) 113db at 1 meter from sub (RS Analog meter (uncorrected), only sub on).
3) 3360 cubic feet (opening to dining room and 2 doors)
4) SVS 20-39pci (EQ with Denon AVR - Audessey)
5) 0MV


kgb540
1.) 109db approx. 12 feet
2.) 115db 1 meter
3.) 2800 cuft room open to hallway on one end and kitchen on the otherside
4.) Single JL Audio Fathom F112
5.) ARO corrected, sub level calibrated at 75db


Patdeisa
1. 105db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
2. 117db from 1 meter (Digital SPL Meter--Max)
3. 2000 ft^3 (not sealed-open to rest of downstairs townhouse {4000ft^3})
4. A single PB10-ISD
5. Master Volume -0db, Sub Volume -6db, Sub calibrated to 85db on SPL meter (uncorrected)


Gordon1080P
1. 110dB @ LP
2. n/a
3. 4,800 ft3
4. HSU VTF3 MK3, no turbo, 18Hz tuning
5. Master volume @ -7dB

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Yes,good idea. I would have to dig out my old analog Rat Shack SPL meter,the scene you refer to was optimised to make pretty much any sub sound mighty.

I have recorded over 120dB at listening position,very easy to reach around 30Hz in a small room and in a mid sized one woth an army of subs. I wonder how two f113s and an f112 will do in a 800cu ft room. With the help of five Klipsch subs(RSWs,RTs).

Ask yourself mortal , do you have as much displacement as me ? The answer is no unless you have a Windmere fan sub.
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I'm not sure if you have seen this thread before. Its a couple years old. Check it out
http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...ighlight=darla

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I'm not sure if you have seen this thread before. Its a couple years old. Check it out
http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...ighlight=darla

WOW cool....never knew anyone did this.

Well lets do a current one here

My 105 seems WUSSY compared to some of those numbers....

That original poster says he hit 117db with Dual SVS CS 20-39s DAMN

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I don't have an SPL meter.
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i've heard about this countless times, but have yet to experience it. can anybody list the time-stamp of this scene? maybe i'll rent it and give it a shot with a single PB-10 ISD.

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i've heard about this countless times, but have yet to experience it. can anybody list the time-stamp of this scene? maybe i'll rent it and give it a shot with a single PB-10 ISD.

Play it from scene 24. You'll know when the scene starts. LOL
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thx guys...i'll try and give it a shot in the near future.

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These numbers will be different, many people run their subs hot, really hot. I myself hit 115 db's in the front center seat and 118-119 db's from the back center seat. I have a 2300 cubic foot room(sealed) and my PB12/plus/2 in 16 hz tune and it sits right behind the second row. I listened at reference level (0 db's) with my sub set at 75 db's. I can get well over 120 db's in the second row with it set at 25 hz and running the sub hot. I like reference levels so going over 115 db's does not matter that much to me. My goal is to reach 115 db's at the front center which I acheive now. This week I will be getting some horn loaded 18 inch subs. I am sure I will be getting some big numbers. I will post them as well.

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I've played this scene a few times to compare sub SQ. Some do it better than others and it's a cute scene. If you want to see how loud your sub will go, great, but anything over 100dbs is probably louder than most listen to movies in their home. I'm not sure I see the point ...

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5. Master Volume -4db Sub is calibated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

How are you calibrating? Is that 72dB (uncor) for the sub and 75dB for the speakers, so about even with the speakers (assuming you're using an analog meter)?


Also, are you using the max/peak hold on Fast for your readout of the max SPL in the scene?
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Just tried this for kicks.

Sub: Hsu VTF-3 Mk2, calibrated 2dB hot above speakers, eq'd flat (see my signature), placed near front right corner of room, listening position 10' from the sub
Room is about 2800sf, opening in rear left corner (opposite corner from sub)

At the listening position
At -10, I got 105.5dB uncorrected (106dB when digital meter set to 100, 105 when set to 110)

At -7, I got 107dB uncorrected (meter set to 110)


I normally watch movies at about -10, sometimes a little higher. We actually watched this movie a few weekends ago, at about -8. But I have side-wall treatments so it doesn't seem as "loud" in the higher frequencies in my room as other rooms might.
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i've heard about this countless times, but have yet to experience it. can anybody list the time-stamp of this scene? maybe i'll rent it and give it a shot with a single PB-10 ISD.

Yep, scene 24 and it has Darla in the description. The tapping is gong when the scene starts, so WATCH OUT! When I play it for friends, I always turn it down and start the scene. Then I track back a bit to the pelican flying and turn it up before it starts again. This keeps the underwear changing down to a minimum. If you have your sub up full when you go directly to the scene it will knock the wax out of your ears and errrrr...junk out of your butt....especially if you have a capable sub.

I'll do some measurments when I can get my new reciever set up.
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How are you calibrating? Is that 72dB (uncor) for the sub and 75dB for the speakers, so about even with the speakers (assuming you're using an analog meter)?


Also, are you using the max/peak hold on Fast for your readout of the max SPL in the scene?


Using a Digital SPL meter....72db Uncorrected.

C-weighing FAST looking for the MAX.

it would be easier to read if you could post in this format....

1. 105db from Listening Position (Digital SPL Meter)
2. 113db from 1 meter
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -4db Sub is calibated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)



The 1 meter number is important since it can be a set measurement.........the LP measurements will be relative since everyones is diffterent...

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Is everyone sure it's chapter 24? My DVD says it's chapter 25 , Darla! (1:18:16 is tapping)

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Is everyone sure it's chapter 24? My DVD says it's chapter 25 , Darla! (1:18:16)

it's chapter 25
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Is everyone sure it's chapter 24? My DVD says it's chapter 25 , Darla! (1:18:16)

That's why I stated, "Play it from scene 24. You'll know when the scene starts."

It's hard to calibrate or measure anything if you start right at the begining of that scene.
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That's why I stated, "Play it from scene 24. You'll know when the scene starts."

It's hard to calibrate or measure anything if you start right at the begining of that scene.

Ok, sure. I just wanted to know for the purpose of my list. (see sig)

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Ok, sure. I just wanted to know for the purpose of my list. (see sig)

Personally I start it from chapter 25 , Darla! (1:18:16) too

With the meter on fast you can get an accurate reading since the TAPPING happens several times over about a 10-12second span...

ps.....I did mine on SLOW....ED Mullen suggested that SLOW be used for calibration and FAST for measuring those Peaks..

Now I didn't know that, so I learned something.....Now I'll have to remeasure tonight when I get home...he said I should see 1-2-3db increase using fast

I also asked him about the Digital Radio Shack Meter....is it more accurate.....do we need to apply correction numbers to it??

For the PURPOSE of this thread DO NOT APPLY CORRECTION to your numbers....just post them as you see them on your SPL...maybe even note ANALOG or DIGITAL...

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Interesting. Now that I think about it, I've never measured max SPL - I've only used my meter to check for FR.

Decided to give it a try, but knew it wouldn't be impressive. My listening room is fair sized, with a cathedral ceiling, opens to another room on one side, and is completely open on the "back wall".

That being said - "YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!". (I mean that in the nicest way! )

I turned my master to -6 (about 3 to 6 higher than I usually listen) and got peaks of 95-96 at my listening position. Even at this volume, my HVAC ducts sounded like they were going to come through the wall. I decided not to check any further - don't want to have to repair anything. You must have removed anything that rattles or can move from your room.

I'm pretty sure that if I had anything even remotely close to a closed room, I'd get better numbers, but it is what it is.

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I will redo tonight with my analogue meter set to fast as well.

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I'm not trying to be a pain But I want to create a Master list of our data.

Can we please put our information in this format??

1. db registered using C-rating Fast on the Radio Shack SPL Meter from Listening Position--Just post uncorrected numbers--meaning, post exactly what your SPL meter shows.
2. db from 1 meter away (this helps get an accurate reading for everyone since LP varies)
3. Room size cubic feet
4. What subwoofer set up are you running?
5. What setting of Master Volume and what do you have your sub dialed in at?


My Example...
1. 105db from Listening Position
2. 113db from 1 meter
3. 2300cuft (not sealed due to open doorway)
4. A single SVS 16-46Plus
5. Master Volume -4db Sub is calibated to 72db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

Then I can just copy and paste Items 1-5 and make a cool master list for us. I have this in other forums too with others already responding in this format....so I can take data from everyone and just copy and past for us


TO MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU......just copy and paste my information and just change the numbers to fit your data....that should take like 60seconds...

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I have 2 listening positions that are ideal. One is 8 feet from the sub and the other is 3 feet. 2 rows of seating. Both are the center seat. It is always fun to watch darla tapping. I will still run my sub in the 16 hz tune. It sounds tighter that way although I lose spl. I can still hit reference anyway.

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I have 2 listening positions that are ideal. One is 8 feet from the sub and the other is 3 feet. 2 rows of seating. Both are the center seat. It is always fun to watch darla tapping. I will still run my sub in the 16 hz tune. It sounds tighter that way although I lose spl. I can still hit reference anyway.

Sweet....give me a report from the various positions....Its cool if you have 2-3-4-5 sets of results...Once you post them in the format I'll copy and paste them to the master list

I'm really looking forward to seeing what people report

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Use the lightning scene in WOTW.


http://www.wardlink.com/vids/wotw123db.wmv

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Heres mine:
AVR: Pioneer VSX-515K

1. 96db from Listening Position
2. 105db from 1 meter
3. 1600cuft (sealed)
4. SVS 25-31PCi (tuned to 22hz)
5. Master Volume -25db( my 75db reference is -15db using avr pink noise) ,Sub is calibated to 75db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

1. 98db from Listening Position
2. 108db from 1 meter
3. 1600cuft (sealed)
4. SVS 25-31PCi (tuned to 22hz)
5. Master Volume -22db( my 75db reference is -15db using avr pink noise) ,Sub is calibated to 75db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

1. 101db from Listening Position
2. 110db from 1 meter
3. 1600cuft (sealed)
4. SVS 25-31PCi (tuned to 22hz)
5. Master Volume -19db( my 75db reference is -15db using avr pink noise) ,Sub is calibated to 75db on SPL meter (uncorrected)

Didnt want to go any louder, the room started to make weird noises.

EDIT: Using analog meter, with slow reading, will have to re-do it sometime.

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Use the lightning scene in WOTW.


http://www.wardlink.com/vids/wotw123db.wmv

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Eli are you willing to report on Darla on your system?

Actually once we get tired of DARLA. I'm going to start some other ones using the same exact format.

That way we know what we are posting!


AWESOME VIDEO!!!! 123db....what kind of SUBS DO YOU HAVE??

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Actually once we get tired of DARLA. I'm going to start some other ones using the same exact format.

That way we know what we are posting!


AWESOME VIDEO!!!!

Dr. MDpain......i'm adding your information right now THANKS

How could that scene ever get tiring.

I just checked the video and it is chapter 25...sorry.

I just set my speaker levels tonight, but it's too late to do any sub testing here....man, almost 2 am...I need to get to bed.
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Hey man this thread looks like it will be going on for a while I'm glad we are taking interest in it. Whenever you get a chance post your data and I'll update the list

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Hey man this thread looks like it will be going on for a while I'm glad we are taking interest in it. Whenever you get a chance post your data and I'll update the list

Brad,
Glad to see you come up with this and staying out of trouble . Good stuff and I like it. Of course a lot of folks would disagree saying there are too many variables blah blah blah but hey where the rubber meets the road, what do you get is a good way to go. Also anyone new, reading this thread should keep in mind, SPL and especially the way it is measured here is not the best measure for a sub and buying decisions should not be made with just this data. This should be taken as one dimension among the several dimensions. I see this more as a fun exercise.
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