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post #181 of 220 Old 05-01-2007, 09:42 PM
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Starting with lots of experiments. To digress microscopically... in the 80's, I had made up Mogami umbilical cable sets with 8 XLR-type and 8 RCA connectors so I could take any device and take it out into the audience, listening area, dance floor, etc and LEARN it intimately. The only way to really know what 125 and 440 and 3k is doing -- like any musical instrument -- is practice. So whether you have a home theater, a disco floor, a pristine 2-channel pair of whatever; the trick is to take the controlling device, sit in the sweet spot, and learn.

One time (and Carl from JL was in on this job...) we had to put in a tiered system in a jazz club. There was a stage area, a hallway, another bar area, and a restaurant. The real idea was to time the system so that when you were in each area, the piano from the stage (which was itself a piano bar) was correct in each of the other areas, each about 40+ feet further away.

The look of amazement when he club owner first heard this was priceless! First he said "it isn't on!" then I turned it off. Then he said, "It sounds like a piano!" He had been so used to hearing a crappy speaker representing a piano that when it was all timed out (and gently eq'd) it sounded PERCEPTUALLY REAL and correct for the space you were sitting in!

My suggestion is to find some old digital delay and a 27or 31 band graphic on ebay or someplace, connect 'em in series (the DDL first, BTW) and connect that from a Y connector from your SUB OUT (or a REAL LFE OUT if you have one) ; into the amp for the controller; and then of course while you are sitting in the chair in question, start messing with the controls.

Once you get the delay parameters and response correct for that particular situation it should sound /feel superb.

Of course if your sub was good enough and properly set up in the first place you wouldn't really NEED the physical device, but hey, all this stuff sure is fun.

And here's another hint. When I had my store setup I went to a furniture store and somehow convinced the fellow to let me try about 9 different leather chairs. I told him I was going to buy a FEW, but I judt didn't know WHICH ones. The differences in bass response while sitting in the chairs was incredible. As it turned out I had the sub about 3 feet from the sweet spot, and I swapped the chairs around. Some of them swamped up the bass like a sponge. The one I wound up keeping seemed to make the bass even clearer, perhaps because it might have been soaking up the subsonic while leaving the important 32-70 alone.

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post #182 of 220 Old 05-02-2007, 11:21 AM
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Look on ebay in the MUSICAL INSTRUMENT section; put digital delay in the search box.
Nearly any of those gadgets such as the BOSS DD3, Beringer DD100, et will work fine.

And if you can afford it and REALLY want to have some fun, there's a Lexicon PCM42; that and a pair of headphones and you won't come up for air for a good week.

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Hey this is the guy with the THX Ultra2 Klipsch system you met at the AVS JL event. I just bought a Brand New Behringer Digital Delay DD100 pedal of of eBay. I will try out its effect on the Buttkicker. I also look forward to adjusting the phase on my sub like you described....

Thank you for all your input..

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What is the retail price of the F-110?

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Retail could float from $1800-$2200. Just a guess,Manville could give a more accurate answer here.

Ask yourself mortal , do you have as much displacement as me ? The answer is no unless you have a Windmere fan sub.
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Retail [on the f110] could float from $1800-$2200.

f110 Satin: $2000
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sorry if I missed it, but what are the dimensions of the f110?
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sorry if I missed it, but what are the dimensions of the f110?

Dimensions (H x W x D) for f110 including feet and grill: 397mm x 328mm x 439 mm

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Hi all,

Does anyone know when F110 is coming out? Also, does anyone know how heavy is F110?

Thanks in advance,

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Damn, I can't believe I missed this trip. I'm only 5 minutes away from that facility, too.

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How did I miss this? (Shaking Head)
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Hey all,

I apologize for not posting the pictures. I have done so. I have had a ruff couple of months. Hope all you guys are doing well. I would also like to thank JL Audio for opening the doors to us. It was one of the best experiences I have had. Here is the link of the tour. Thanks again I had lots of fun. pictures liquidsolutionz com
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thanks instance.

pictures here: pictures.liquidsolutionz.com

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Link doesn't seem to be working!


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Hey, when's the next field trip!?
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I'm in if there is another tour scheduled. Anything in the future???
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I'm in if there is another tour scheduled. Anything in the future???

I think we're all hiking up to Chicago instead.
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Damn I cant believe i missed this too. Would have like to see the fathom in action. Also would have been a perfect opportunity to hint at the need for a Range Rover Sport stealthbox.

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I'm starting a little early this year...

so how about Round 2? I will start collecting the info and people who want to attend shortly. Need to coordinate some info with Carl and manville, and then we can get the ball rolling.

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so how about Round 2? I will start collecting the info and people who want to attend shortly. Need to coordinate some info with Carl and manville, and then we can get the ball rolling.

Have they lowered their prices?
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I'm starting a little early this year...

so how about Round 2? I will start collecting the info and people who want to attend shortly. Need to coordinate some info with Carl and manville, and then we can get the ball rolling.

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I imagine they probably have 4-6 Gothams in the demo room by now

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I imagine they probably have 4-6 Gothams in the demo room by now


A couple of weeks ago, I think Carl had eight or ten F112s across the front of the room... Oh- They had a working prototype of their upcoming in-wall subs that were really impressive...
I put some pics of my visit on my flickr page if anyone is interested.




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add me to the list of people who are bummed I missed this. How about one for 2008?
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I'm starting a little early this year...

so how about Round 2? I will start collecting the info and people who want to attend shortly. Need to coordinate some info with Carl and manville, and then we can get the ball rolling.

-Sherv

Last year I missed it by about a week. If you and JL can arrange something during the March 9-21 period, I'll love to drive in from Sanibel.

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I'm starting a little early this year...

so how about Round 2? I will start collecting the info and people who want to attend shortly. Need to coordinate some info with Carl and manville, and then we can get the ball rolling.

-Sherv

I'm in, you drive
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Ah I would gladly come...errr to damn far. From the frozen north pole of Quebec down to orange coutry Florida... Hey close to Cuba...Viva la Revolucion !!!

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Count me in. Looking for something that can fill a 10,000 CF room.
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Sherv, I'm down. Hopefully the Everglades aren't on fire this time. :P
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whens the field trip?

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