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jeffster15's Avatar jeffster15 11:47 PM 01-23-2012
Ok i did, just joined the Outlaw family haha. I just ordered the Outlaw LFM-1 EX, what a great deal. This is my first true sub, big step up from those HTIB subs. I'm sure i'll be back in a couple days for some questions on setup and such.

chashint's Avatar chashint 05:17 AM 01-24-2012
The last time there was a sale the thread went through complete setup instructions (several times) ... I know everyone thinks their setup will be different, but its not.
A little searching in this thread will go a long way towards answering all of your questions.
cel4145's Avatar cel4145 08:38 AM 01-24-2012
Maybe it would help if we head this off a little; perhaps others can reply with any other configuration tutorials:

1) You will need to read a lot. There is no shortcut here.
2) Read the manual Outlaw gave you.
3) Read this AVS Audyssey setup guide. Even if you don't have Audyssey as your room correction software, there are still some tips that might help so that you know what questions to ask. It also talks about setting up dual subs.
4) If you are a Denon user and still don't understand how your Denon receiver works, read batpig's guides and other info on Audyssey and Denons.
5) Follow the recommendation (see the Audyssey guide) to get the sub channel(trim) level set by the receiver set in the -3db to +3db range by your room correction software. That might mean turning the gain (volume) knob on the sub down more than you think you need to and running Audyssey multiple times to get it right.

Anyone have a good, easy to read resource on sub placement to go with this?
jvmanolis's Avatar jvmanolis 09:23 AM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by Skri///ex View Post

my EX will arrive before I will send back the lfm1 plus so I will have both for about 2 weeks =)

I have an EX and a Plus and they have become the best of friends.
mrjktcvs's Avatar mrjktcvs 09:53 AM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by bnrbeseth View Post

No looking back now as the wife is freaking out on the purchase. Hope i made the right decision. I am planning ( hoping) on a huge difference!

Yeah, your couch is a much worse spot to be spending nights than your bed.
r2crd's Avatar r2crd 10:10 AM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by Henry Lambert View Post

Now we a on track.
Remove the RCA cables from the Boston subs so that the 975's are connected to the receiver with just speaker wires.
The only calibration you need is to select small with a 80 hertz crossover in the receivers speaker setup.
With this setup the receiver will send everything below 80 hertz to the Outlaw sub and >80 hertz to the 975's through the speaker wire. The internal crossover in the 975's will send 80 to 150 hertz to the Boston subs.
Your very welcome.

Just did this Henry and wow!! ... just a small change in connections with a huge difference in sound! Thanks Henry!! Really appreciate your help.
lilditty's Avatar lilditty 10:48 AM 01-24-2012
Hi all. Just purchased an ex! Can't wait to get it and hear what it can do. :-)
khalid7412002's Avatar khalid7412002 11:09 AM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post


Hi mcmountainman, ordered first thing Friday morining.

Ship date Jan 23, 2012
Estimated delivery Jan 26, 2012

Shipment Travel History
Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM -> Shipment information sent to FedEx

Jan 23, 2012 4:31 PM -> Picked up -> Location: CARSON, CA

Jan 23, 2012 5:10 PM -> Arrived at FedEx location -> Location: CARSON, CA

Jan 23, 2012 8:36 PM -> Left FedEx origin facility -> Location: CARSON, CA

I ordered mine about 2 pm pacific time on friday and I've yet to receive an update or anything. I just called and they have my order, said it will probably ship out within a day. I wonder why mine is taking so long considering my proximity to the actual warehouse. At least I'm close enough (Sacramento) that hopefully I'll receive it this week. I started school yesterday and would like to get the sub situated before I get really busy with school.

I will attempt to post some pictures once received with my living room/theater room set up with a kef 3005se 5.1 system and epson 8350 projector. I would love to see some pics of other peoples' setups once they get the sub.
skichiiwa's Avatar skichiiwa 11:44 AM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Maybe it would help if we head this off a little; perhaps others can reply with any other configuration tutorials:

1) You will need to read a lot. There is no shortcut here.
2) Read the manual Outlaw gave you.
3) Read this AVS Audyssey setup guide. Even if you don't have Audyssey as your room correction software, there are still some tips that might help so that you know what questions to ask. It also talks about setting up dual subs.
4) If you are a Denon user and still don't understand how your Denon receiver works, read batpig's guides and other info on Audyssey and Denons.
5) Follow the recommendation (see the Audyssey guide) to get the sub channel(trim) level set by the receiver set in the -3db to +3db range by your room correction software. That might mean turning the gain (volume) knob on the sub down more than you think you need to and running Audyssey multiple times to get it right.

Anyone have a good, easy to read resource on sub placement to go with this?

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Originally Posted by chashint View Post

The last time there was a sale the thread went through complete setup instructions (several times) ... I know everyone thinks their setup will be different, but its not.
A little searching in this thread will go a long way towards answering all of your questions.

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Originally Posted by jeffster15 View Post

Ok i did, just joined the Outlaw family haha. I just ordered the Outlaw LFM-1 EX, what a great deal. This is my first true sub, big step up from those HTIB subs. I'm sure i'll be back in a couple days for some questions on setup and such.

I too bought an lfm ex 1 on the sale price. I bought it on saturday and they said it won't even ship out till the end of the week cause of how many are being purchased. So i have time to read and study.I too like many others here have not owned a sub quite like this and setting up will be a challenge. I plan to read and Download and read the manual. I also realize that many people have asked setup questions while other sales occurred. But it is very difficult, and annoying to gather all the setup info in this 1000 plus page forum.

So I propose that it would be nice if someone with much more knowledge then myself could put something together . even just links . a structured guide , steps to set up your ex1 to its full potential or even close.


Maybe i should gather info and start my own setting up your outlaw sub , with links to others info. the AVS Audyssey setup guide that cel4145 posted is a good start.
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 12:34 PM 01-24-2012
It ain't hard to set em up! Well...the hardest part for me was getting the subs in phase with each other...after that everything was perfect
its phillip's Avatar its phillip 12:46 PM 01-24-2012
I didn't do anything special to set mine up. I just stuck it where I had room, and it sounds good enough to me. One of these days I'll try taking measurements or whatever to see what kind of response I'm getting
cel4145's Avatar cel4145 02:38 PM 01-24-2012
Once someone picks room placement and reads through the Outlaw Manual, that AVS Audyssey guide will quickly walk someone through all the important considerations. Not too hard with just one sub.
geomark's Avatar geomark 02:48 PM 01-24-2012
I too ordered yesterday, got an email, then emailed them on the status and was told it will ship 'by the end of the week'. They're prob gettin bombarded with sales.
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 03:25 PM 01-24-2012
Well I have finally pushed my dual ex's to the limits. they started farting during the hulk scene...sigh
mcmountainman's Avatar mcmountainman 04:09 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi mcmountainman, ordered first thing Friday morining


Ship date Jan 23, 2012
Estimated delivery Jan 26, 2012

Shipment Travel History
Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM -> Shipment information sent to FedEx

Jan 23, 2012 4:31 PM -> Picked up -> Location: CARSON, CA

Jan 23, 2012 5:10 PM -> Arrived at FedEx location -> Location: CARSON, CA

Jan 23, 2012 8:36 PM -> Left FedEx origin facility -> Location: CARSON, CA

Yep me too My tracking info updated this morning supposed to be here in Detroit area this Friday .
DAMN Guess I'll need to take the day off for that signature aehhh
woodyt1's Avatar woodyt1 06:43 PM 01-24-2012
I also bit the bullet and went for it tonight. Didnt tell the wife either, gonna be hard to sneak it in. Now, what does everyone have for the rest of their system(speakers and receiver). Im gonna need new speakers and eventually a receiver but my yamaha will have to do for now after dropping 550 on the sub. Suggestions? I'd like to stay within the $500 range for speakers(5.1).
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 07:22 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by woodyt1 View Post

I also bit the bullet and went for it tonight. Didnt tell the wife either, gonna be hard to sneak it in. Now, what does everyone have for the rest of their system(speakers and receiver). Im gonna need new speakers and eventually a receiver but my yamaha will have to do for now after dropping 550 on the sub. Suggestions? I'd like to stay within the $500 range for speakers(5.1).

Id say do 3.1 for now than get two surrounds when you can . Slow but offers the best sq. What do you expect from the speakers? For best bang for your buck check out the hsu hornloaded speakers. I personally went with energy rc10s for l/r and a energy v mini center. Surrounds were my old paradigm cinema 90s. You could use rc minis or v minis for the surrounds.
domingos38's Avatar domingos38 07:31 PM 01-24-2012
how good does the wireless adapter work?
i have 1 EX and planning to add another but don't want to run a 30 ft cable
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 07:36 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

how good does the wireless adapter work?
i have 1 EX and planning to add another but don't want to run a 30 ft cable

Pm moneypitt for opinions. Sold em my oaw
chashint's Avatar chashint 07:37 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

how good does the wireless adapter work?
i have 1 EX and planning to add another but don't want to run a 30 ft cable

Along the same line as this question, I am interested to know if there is a delay between a sub connected directly to the AVR and one connected with the wireless adapter.
anonymouse99's Avatar anonymouse99 08:13 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by woodyt1 View Post

I also bit the bullet and went for it tonight. Didnt tell the wife either, gonna be hard to sneak it in. Now, what does everyone have for the rest of their system(speakers and receiver). Im gonna need new speakers and eventually a receiver but my yamaha will have to do for now after dropping 550 on the sub. Suggestions? I'd like to stay within the $500 range for speakers(5.1).

I believe these got high marks from consumer reports as well (not sure if that means anything!):
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...a-B1-Bookshelf

And these look like a good floor-standing deal (may sell out quickly!):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882269036
Nosferatu's Avatar Nosferatu 08:59 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by woodyt1 View Post

I also bit the bullet and went for it tonight. Didnt tell the wife either, gonna be hard to sneak it in. Now, what does everyone have for the rest of their system(speakers and receiver). Im gonna need new speakers and eventually a receiver but my yamaha will have to do for now after dropping 550 on the sub. Suggestions? I'd like to stay within the $500 range for speakers(5.1).

Build in pieces and invest a bit more in your speakers.

I use Klipsch Reference Line for my fronts and Def Tech's on the surrounds. Those 5 cost me around $1100 and it's phenomenal for a "mid-range" system IMO.

EDIT: Here's what I've got (just the last generation reference line instead of what's out now)...

For home theater usage this setup rocks. For music I go into 2.1 mode (the RB-61 with the Outlaw). It's very vocal, clear, and loud. Sounds concert like.

Fronts: http://www.klipsch.com/rb-61-ii-bookshelf-speakers-pair
Center: http://www.klipsch.com/rc-52-ii-center-speaker
Surrounds: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_735PMON...ck.html?tp=186
mickey79's Avatar mickey79 09:11 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by khalid7412002 View Post

I ordered mine about 2 pm pacific time on friday and I've yet to receive an update or anything. I just called and they have my order, said it will probably ship out within a day. I wonder why mine is taking so long considering my proximity to the actual warehouse. At least I'm close enough (Sacramento) that hopefully I'll receive it this week. I started school yesterday and would like to get the sub situated before I get really busy with school.

EXACT same situation; I ordered around 2pm PST on Friday and still haven't received any update info. I sent an email today & got a response that it will ship "by end of this week". Not sure why it's taking so long. I'm in Seattle, WA. Still West.
cel4145's Avatar cel4145 09:41 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by anonymouse99 View Post

And these look like a good floor-standing deal (may sell out quickly!):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882269036

Those are rebadged Jamos. They get a lot of flack from people in the Energy owners thread. Maybe they are OK for $99???

The JBL Studio 180 5.0 Home Theater package looks interesting to me at $499. Here's a review of the towers: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...eaker?page=0,0. A main complaint seemed to be the low bass--not a problem with an Outlaw for a sub
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 09:56 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Those are rebadged Jamos. They get a lot of flack from people in the Energy owners thread. Maybe they are OK for $99???

The JBL Studio 180 5.0 Home Theater package looks interesting to me at $499. Here's a review of the towers: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...eaker?page=0,0. A main complaint seemed to be the low bass--not a problem with an Outlaw for a sub

My girlfriend and I saw these speakers at Frys and tried to take the grills off to see how the woofers and tweeters looked. I don't think they are removable!
cel4145's Avatar cel4145 10:30 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

My girlfriend and I saw these speakers at Frys and tried to take the grills off to see how the woofers and tweeters looked. I don't think they are removable!

That's too bad. I like them better with the grills off.
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 10:52 PM 01-24-2012
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

That's too bad. I like them better with the grills off.

They must've used a knife v Or Fry's glued the grills in haha. Should see how many dented tweeters they got there in the demo room
pokekevin's Avatar pokekevin 12:49 AM 01-25-2012
If anyone has Inception can you please test the scene where Cilian Murphy's character's father tells him his disappointed near the end of the film? Right after that scene theres a scene where you see the elevator going down. During this scene my EX's are making a farting noise even at low volumes on the avr. Anyone else getting it? Last time I got this noise was during the Hulk demo scenes

EDIT: found out what was causing the noise. The air coming out of the unsealed port was causing m DIY SubDude foam pads to vibrate in a way. The best way I can explain the sound is like holding a piece of paper near a fan lol. Gonna try to fix it
wiley52's Avatar wiley52 06:49 AM 01-25-2012
It's been a long wait for my EX, FedEx now added another day to the expected delivery date, so I won't see it until Friday.

Meanwhile, I re-located a much to boomy JBL ES250 to wife's exercise room. She's happy and I'm on my way to clearing that corner for new EX. Maybe she'll hear it and love it before she sees it and hates it as another "black box" in her nearly all white Living Room. I suppose that would be the best case scenario! Like someone said earlier, buy it first, ask forgiveness later...whatever it takes.
JChin's Avatar JChin 07:14 AM 01-25-2012
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Originally Posted by wiley52 View Post

It's been a long wait for my EX, FedEx now added another day to the expected delivery date, so I won't see it until Friday.

Hi wiley52, I wish that was my case as its rain here . But the good news is my EX just got pushed up for today (orginal estimate delivery was for Thur.).
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