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Old 12-24-2014, 08:48 AM
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Mery Christmas/Happy Holidays! After some family time on Christams eve/Christmas day, I am going to spend some quality time with my Home theater!
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:59 PM
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Mery Christmas/Happy Holidays! After some family time on Christams eve/Christmas day, I am going to spend some quality time with my Home theater!
That's what I will be doing tomorrow. Family does Christmas on Christmas Eve so pretty much all day tomorrow not a whole lot going on. I have a new tv stand/entertainment center to set up and tomorrow I plan on really getting everything dialed in as well.

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Old 12-25-2014, 01:59 PM
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Don't know if I damaged the plexiglass or not, but i ignored the manual and used some cleaner on the plexiglass. I have since just wiped it off with a old Tshirt. i will have to look closely to see if I have damaged it in any way...
Question, please: Several people have mentioned a "plexi-glass" top on their Outlaw subwoofer. I just had an LFM-1 EX delivered (love it!!!). However, it has what appears to me to be a tannish laminate top (insert). Seems durable. Is this what is being talked about? I do not appear to have a scratching issue.

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And, btw, I am absolutely astounded at the volume, clarity, and extension this thing offers in my large cubic footage (6500+) listening area. Now, I do have it in a very nearfield position, but even so! Most people I asked had suggested 18" subs (up to 4 of them). WAF had me back down to 15", max. Then, after getting my existing Klipsch Synergy Sub-10 more properly set up, she was not real wild about the effect. So, I backed off my thinking/plans/preferences, saw the great deal on the Outlaw closeout, and jumped.

I am so glad, and the 12" really does an incredible job--or so it seems to me.

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The tan laminate needs to be peeled off. That's the protective layer they put on to protect the plexi underneath
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The tan laminate needs to be peeled off. That's the protective layer they put on to protect the plexi underneath
Matt, thanks for the quick reply! Shows you what I know; I think it looks and feels nice. Is there really any reason I should remove it? Actually, seems to do exactly what I want to in terms of being a functional table top. Good WAF, too. And it blends perfectly w/ our other furniture. But maybe there is a good reason that I should remove it? Does it wear poorly if I leave it on?

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Matt, thanks for the quick reply! Shows you what I know; I think it looks and feels nice. Is there really any reason I should remove it? Actually, seems to do exactly what I want to in terms of being a functional table top. Good WAF, too. And it blends perfectly w/ our other furniture. But maybe there is a good reason that I should remove it? Does it wear poorly if I leave it on?
To follow on a little further, does anyone know if/have any experience with REMOVING that plexi-glass top to give it another look (such as a hammered copper spray paint), and reinserting it into the top of the sub?

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I can't say for certain whether there are issues with leaving the tan laminate on. I do remember reading a long time ago that a guy had some issues with doing that but I believe he talked to outlaw and they switched the type of paper to prevent further issues. Its probably fine to leave it on if you like. I have to imagine they sit in the warehouse for long periods of time before being purchased and that cover is on there that whole time.

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I can't say for certainty whether there are issues with leaving the tan laminate on. I do remember reading a long time ago that a guy had some issues with doing that but I believe he talked to outlaw and they switched the type of paper to prevent further issues. Its probably fine to leave it on if you like. I have to imagine they sit in the warehouse for long periods of time before being purchased and that cover is on there that whole time.
Matt, what you say makes sense to me!

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i can imagine NO consequence of leaving a paper adhesive of your Outlaw sub, except that it might be much harder to peal if off down the road. Shoudn't affect sound quality or cause any deterioration.

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Agree. If you like the way the protective top looks and feels it might be best to leave it there. The glossy black plexiglass lurking underneath is classy looking but a real bitch to keep clean and almost impossible to keep scratch free!
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Agree. If you like the way the protective top looks and feels it might be best to leave it there. The glossy black plexiglass lurking underneath is classy looking but a real bitch to keep clean and almost impossible to keep scratch free!
Uh, I think I prefer what ALREADY is attractive and simple! Why complicate things needlessly? Thanks.

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Can anyone tell me if the sub signal would degrade with a 40ft sub cable run? Thanks
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Can anyone tell me if the sub signal would degrade with a 40ft sub cable run? Thanks
Hi Matt,

I don't know, but Mediabridge sells them up to 75'. Dual Shielded with Gold Plated RCA to RCA. If you don't get an answer here you could give them a call and ask. I've purchased two subwoofer cables from them and found the price reasonable. http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-UL...ubwoofer+cable

Here's a number they gave me in a followup email. "Just reply to this email for help or give us a call at 856-216-8222"

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