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post #7411 of 7418 Old 02-08-2015, 11:38 AM
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So I finally had the time to connect my second lfm plus tonight. I have them connected to a y splitter. When I turned them off by flipping the power switches one at a time, the one that was still on played noise while the other was shutting down. It played a fluttering bass noise that slowly descended as the other one's amp was powering down... Is that normal? It sounds like residual power/signal or something left in the circuit that is coming through to whichever one is still turned on. It happens with both of them depending on which one I shut off first...
I've got two Outlaws connected the same way, with a Y-splitter. I just leave mine on standby all the time. I have never powered them down.

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I've got two Outlaws connected the same way, with a Y-splitter. I just leave mine on standby all the time. I have never powered them down.
Would you mind powering them down once just to see if you get the same noise?
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Buy a USB mic (the UMIK-1 or the UMM-6), and download the free room measurement tool REW. You'll be able to measure and see exactly what is happening at your MLP, and find out exactly where the best place for your subs are.
Thanks for the advice. It seems really complicated to set that up. Admittedly, its possibly out of my comfort zone...Wouldn't I need to buy an external soundcard for my laptop and a USB mic? I tried looking at several guides but am still confused what connections I need to make for few to work
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Thanks for the advice. It seems really complicated to set that up. Admittedly, its possibly out of my comfort zone...Wouldn't I need to buy an external soundcard for my laptop and a USB mic? I tried looking at several guides but am still confused what connections I need to make for few to work
It's really not that complicated with a USB mic. You just plug it in to your PC or Laptop with the downloaded REW software, and follow the steps outlined here in this easy AVS set-up guide by Austin Jerry: Simplified REW Setup and Use (USB Mic & HDMI Connection) Including Measurement Techniques and How To Interpret Graphs

It might take you an hour to set everything up, but once you've got it figured out you'll be golden going forward for any of your measurement needs. There is a TON of help if you need it here at AVS - you can find the thread here:
Simplified REW Setup and Use (USB Mic & HDMI Connection) Including Measurement Techniques and How To Interpret Graphs

Really anyone who's serious about their sound should measure to see what's going on in their rooms. You'll also be able to see what the response is across the entire frequency range, so you can play with toeing in and out speakers, positioning etc. It's a no brainer
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The x12 blends so nicely with the RC70s. Finally I feel like I have reached the sound I was after a year or so ago when I started this. I have upwards of 400w per speaker (dep on the ohm-age which varies - the highs amps are 125w @ 8hm / 180 @ 4ohn and lows amps are 200w @ 8ohm and 300 @ 4ohm) - I know it's overkill and I might have some placebo but when I bi-amped these it felt like opened up a new level of sound quality. The clarity is of the sound is just addicting to listen to a moderate to high volumes. So clear, clean, lively, smooth.. I think adding all the amps don't make things louder per say - but lower distortion so you can listen at higher volumes with zero fatigue.

Here's an older review of these I took to heart:

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/energy_rc70.htm

"My advice to potential buyers of the RC-70s would be to spend money on quality electronics to extract everything they have to offer. They can sound very good with budget gear, but their performance was elevated as the quality of the upstream components improved. The RC-70s are certainly revealing. When fed a signal that is as refined as they are, the result is so impressive that one might forget all about upgrading and simply get on with just listening to music. If this isn't the point of being an audiophile, I don't know what is."

YMMV but I think this is spot on. (I think I posted this review a while back also, lol. oh well)

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That Outlaw I'm sure pairs nicely with your RC's, I run dual Outlaw's (Plus & EX), with my RC 7.2 setup. Still impressive to me more than 2 years later. Can't imagine what those RC's can output hooked up to external amplification. I always wondered about that...

Listening: Outlaw Audio 950 | Pioneer Elite DV-47ai | 2x Marantz MA-700 + 2x MA-6100 | Energy RC-70 bi-amped + Outlaw Ultra-X12
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Does anyone wished Outlaw had more subwoofer options?

(Asking a random question to join in this thread. Purchased my LFM-1 Plus in November of 2014)

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To answer your question, bgt, yes, but there is something to be said for keeping it simple and making the best product you can. I look at the Polk lineup of speakers and many of them are just crap!
Of course, now I think Outlaw only has the x12...

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It's been a while and I have spent time listening to a lot of different music on my Ultra-X12 and I have to say it performs admirably with just about all music. I know it's supposed to shine for HT but I am loving mine for music only. I am running it in max power mode still. I think this sounds a little more punchy at lower volumes but I need to play around with max extension mode more. I only tried it for a little bit and switched back to max power because it seemed like I needed more gain at lower volumes. In max power mode it goes plenty low for my listening and I am very used to that sound now. I'll switch it up in a bit and see how I like it in the other mode.

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