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Old 04-17-2016, 05:04 AM
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I stack 2 on each other. When I first got them I stacked 4 is a different space. The 2200 doesn't even get warm even after say watching the Martian for 2.5 hours strait with the sound jacked up. I've had them stacked for almost 10 years now.
Thank you. That's just what I needed to know.
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Manufacturing date by serial number?

Can you date Out,aw amplifiers by serial number? You can find reviews of new products which gives you an approximate start date, then they make them for several years. Does the serial provide information?

(7100/7125)

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I received this reply from Outlaw:

"No, you cannot tell from the serial number. There is not a date of manufacturer on the amps. We would enter the serial number into our database and be able to pull up date of QC (last step in manufacture) and date of purchase, up to the last 10 years.

710D-003xx would be a Model 7100 and would be from 2003-2004."
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Would the Ultra-12X be as good as my LFM-1EX as far as digging deep goes? Would they pair up well?
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Would the Ultra-12X be as good as my LFM-1EX as far as digging deep goes? Would they pair up well?
The X12 is an improvement over the LFM1-EX, and yes it would match up very well.

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Would the Ultra-12X be as good as my LFM-1EX as far as digging deep goes? Would they pair up well?
The X12 is an improvement over the LFM1-EX, and yes it would match up very well.
Would the Ultra-12 being smaller mean it wouldn't dig as deep? The LFM-1EX goes to 16hz, so I imagine it digs a little deeper?
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Would the Ultra-12 being smaller mean it wouldn't dig as deep? The LFM-1EX goes to 16hz, so I imagine it digs a little deeper?
17Hz vs. 16Hz isn't a meaningful difference, it's essentially the same but the X12 has a slight output advantage.

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Would the Ultra-12 being smaller mean it wouldn't dig as deep? The LFM-1EX goes to 16hz, so I imagine it digs a little deeper?
17Hz vs. 16Hz isn't a meaningful difference, it's essentially the same but the X12 has a slight output advantage.
I also read the internal bracing and amp is improved, as well as the driver. The Ultra-12 seems to be the best value going. For around $700~ shipped (depending on location), it is an awesome deal.
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It also has larger ports. When I had my lfm-1 plus I had port chuffing on a few scenes (the WWZ grenade scene comes to mind). Hopefully the larger ports remedied that issue.
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I also read the internal bracing and amp is improved, as well as the driver. The Ultra-12 seems to be the best value going. For around $700~ shipped (depending on location), it is an awesome deal.
Yeah I think it would be an excellent addition, I got mine for $550 shipped last November, crazy deal.

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It also has larger ports. When I had my lfm-1 plus I had port chuffing on a few scenes (the WWZ grenade scene comes to mind). Hopefully the larger ports remedied that issue.
I haven't heard any port noise yet, I don't run it too loud, but it has performed incredibly well for me.

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Any chance anyone has pictures of the internal bracing on the Ultra X12? Or possibly driver pics? Would be nice to see how it compares to the LFM-1EX.
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How in the hell has everyone with an Ultra-X12 removed the brown paper off the plexiglass top? I can't get more than about 1 mm at a time off....i've almost given up.
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How in the hell has everyone with an Ultra-X12 removed the brown paper off the plexiglass top? I can't get more than about 1 mm at a time off....i've almost given up.
Mine came off pretty easily, you might try a hair-dryer on low to warm it a bit and help loosen the glue.

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It also has larger ports. When I had my lfm-1 plus I had port chuffing on a few scenes (the WWZ grenade scene comes to mind). Hopefully the larger ports remedied that issue.
The ports on the Ultra X12 aren't larger. Supposedly the port tubes inside are longer, however.
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Mine came off pretty easily, you might try a hair-dryer on low to warm it a bit and help loosen the glue.
Yeah, I tried that, but an hour later it wasn't worth the effort.

I finally saw screw it and coated it in Goo-Gone. It worked, but left a nice greasy film. Everything I've dealt with with this sub has been a ****show.
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Yeah, I tried that, but an hour later it wasn't worth the effort.



I finally saw screw it and coated it in Goo-Gone. It worked, but left a nice greasy film. Everything I've dealt with with this sub has been a ****show.


Sorry it's been a hassle, did you buy the sub new? I purchased a plastic cleaner on Amazon to clean it, I imagine something like that would work well to take the goo gone off.


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Sorry it's been a hassle, did you buy the sub new? I purchased a plastic cleaner on Amazon to clean it, I imagine something like that would work well to take the goo gone off.


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Mine was new too and that paper was a hassle. I "surgically" used a razor blade to get a corner up and got the rest off very very carefully. A very thin soft plastic scraper might help. So will heat.

Aside from that and moving it around, though, mine has been pretty fantastic.

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Hello, Outlaw owners, I have been considering the Ultra X12 for a while now, and I see that it is on sale for $550 shipped with their B stock special. I heard that they recently increased their prices, so was wondering if this is a good deal or should I wait for a better price for a brand new one considering July 4 is just around the corner. Also, has anyone here had experience with their b stock units? Is it almost as good as new?

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Hello, Outlaw owners, I have been considering the Ultra X12 for a while now, and I see that it is on sale for $550 shipped with their B stock special. I heard that they recently increased their prices, so was wondering if this is a good deal or should I wait for a better price for a brand new one considering July 4 is just around the corner. Also, has anyone here had experience with their b stock units? Is it almost as good as new?

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I don't own an Ultra X12, but I did purchase an LFM Plus during Outlaw's summer B-stock sale about 5 years ago, which was also right around the 4th of July. I love it! The sub looks brand new, so I don't think you have anything to worry about by going with b-stock units.

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Fellow Ultra X12 owners,

Can anything be set/placed on top of the subwoofer? I’ve bought new bookshelf speakers and they are quite heavy at around 32lbs each. My thought was to also purchase a 2nd Ultra X12 and place the bookshelves on top of the subs. I was thinking of using MDF or similar wrapped in felt and then rubber bumpers at the corners/edges between the MDF and X12. Then using that on top of the X12 to support the bookshelves. Would that work or should I scrap this idea altogether?
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Can anything be set/placed on top of the subwoofer? I’ve bought new bookshelf speakers and they are quite heavy at around 32lbs each. My thought was to also purchase a 2nd Ultra X12 and place the bookshelves on top of the subs. I was thinking of using MDF or similar wrapped in felt and then rubber bumpers at the corners/edges between the MDF and X12. Then using that on top of the X12 to support the bookshelves. Would that work or should I scrap this idea altogether?


I would fashion something that only contacts the sub on the outer edges. Maybe those rubber bumpers on the edge of the MDF so you aren't sitting directly on the plexiglass. If you do just sit them on the glass, then I would use a microfiber tower as a buffer so you don't scratch it.


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I would fashion something that only contacts the sub on the outer edges. Maybe those rubber bumpers on the edge of the MDF so you aren't sitting directly on the plexiglass. If you do just sit them on the glass, then I would use a microfiber tower as a buffer so you don't scratch it.


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Agreed and that is what I meant by rubber bumpers on the corners…at the top lip/edges of the X12 so that the contact points are the MDF and not resting on the plexiglass.

Another thought is using a Subdude isolation pad on top which is 15” x 15” and is basically a foam pad adhered to felt covered MDF. The foam pad is dense enough so that the weight of the bookshelves placed on top should not cause issue, but that is just a thought.
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Agreed and that is what I meant by rubber bumpers on the corners…at the top lip/edges of the X12 so that the contact points are the MDF and not resting on the plexiglass.



Another thought is using a Subdude isolation pad on top which is 15” x 15” and is basically a foam pad adhered to felt covered MDF. The foam pad is dense enough so that the weight of the bookshelves placed on top should not cause issue, but that is just a thought.


Yeah as long as its distributed evenly it should work fine. Good idea though with a sub dude between them, sounds like the right size and it should help with any rattling.


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I acquired a LFM-1 EX a couple of years ago, and love it. I have been using my Rythmik F12 in concert with the Outlaw all that time. I have decided to dump the Rythmik and go with an X-12 instead. Should be here Friday.
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How in the hell has everyone with an Ultra-X12 removed the brown paper off the plexiglass top? I can't get more than about 1 mm at a time off....i've almost given up.
peel it, it i easy, mine got off no problem.

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Can anything be set/placed on top of the subwoofer? I’ve bought new bookshelf speakers and they are quite heavy at around 32lbs each. My thought was to also purchase a 2nd Ultra X12 and place the bookshelves on top of the subs. I was thinking of using MDF or similar wrapped in felt and then rubber bumpers at the corners/edges between the MDF and X12. Then using that on top of the X12 to support the bookshelves. Would that work or should I scrap this idea altogether?
yes you can put something on top, it is huge but be careful not to scratch the plexiglass on top.

i am selling both my 7month old x12 for $1000 (will not ship, no box and so heavy i might break my spine) because i want to get the hsu mk2 dualdrive, will demo and will meet halfway for delivery, i'm near orlando, fl.
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I acquired a LFM-1 EX a couple of years ago, and love it. I have been using my Rythmik F12 in concert with the Outlaw all that time. I have decided to dump the Rythmik and go with an X-12 instead. Should be here Friday.
Excellent choice! The X12 is going to offer a lot more output down low, being a ported design, and you should still have a smooth response with a pair.

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