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post #7591 of 7611 Old 01-25-2017, 07:14 AM
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What would you consider a massive room? I'm considering the X12 in a 3000cu ft room. Will it perform ok?

also any issues with port noise or is that fixed from the LFM?

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I use mine in max extension mode since I'm in an apartment and don't need all the output. Even still I'm only at 25% gain and -6dB trim in my receiver and it's quite loud. Unless you're in a massive room I would keep it in extension mode.


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What would you consider a massive room? I'm considering the X12 in a 3000cu ft room. Will it perform ok?



also any issues with port noise or is that fixed from the LFM?

That's definitely a good size room, I wouldn't say massive but on the large side. I think the X12 should do fine, unless you want super loud bass.

I haven't had any port chuffing, supposedly the new model fixed that issue from the LFM series.


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7125 and B&W CM10 S2?

Hey everyone, I posted this on the B&W owners thread last week and haven't had a response so I'm reposting it here.

Does anyone here currently use an Outlaw audio amp (specifically the 7125 or something close in power) with CM10 S2s?

I am about to upgrade the front channels of my HT from my old polks to either the CM9 S2 or the CM10 S2 with CMC2 s2 center. I have done extensive listening between the 683 s2, the CM9 s2, and the CM 10 s2, and I have found the CM10s to be superior in a two channel setup but I could not hear a huge difference in a HT environment. This leads me to the CM9s to keep the tweeters the same across the fronts, but since the CM10s are not much more expensive I would get those if my current system could adequately drive the speakers.

I can also biamp my 7125 if that will help. I have been down the rabbit hole with biamping, and I am not debating whether passive biamping actually works or not, but just to hear current owner opinions.

My listening position is about 12 feet from the speakers, but the room does open up to a large open floorspace.

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Outlaw model 770 question

I am kind of a novice in this area, I just bought a used model 770 from ebay to go with my denon avr-x4300h. Running all the 7 bed channels off of this amp and the 4 ceiling speakers from the receiver's internal amps, it is a 7.2.4 setup. When I run audyssey setup, I noticed that the channel trims are atleast 3db higher than before when I was running just the receiver (especially the front channels). I was thinking that when I add an amp the channel trims would be much lower because it will have more power than the receiver. That receiver is only 125 watt/pc two channels driven and this amp is 200 watts/pc all channels driven. Anybody has any idea about this? or what could be happening?

P.S: did not spend much time listening to it yet, but did not notice a dramatic difference in sound before and after adding the amp. My speakers are all klipsch:

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Just wanted to share my recent experience with Outlaw customer service.

About 6 weeks ago I bought two Ultra X-12s for my home theater system. Received them, set them up, and loved what I was hearing. Well I watched a few things here and there, and wasn't super blown away like I thought I'd be... but still sounded better than before. One day I was messing around with some wiring and noticed that one of the X12s was not on. I played with it and couldn't get it to fire up. Long story short: fuse was blown, replaced it and it instantly blew again. Tried several different scenarios and it was blowing the fuse as soon as I flipped the master switch on. Contacted Outlaw and they determined that the plate amplifier was probably defective, so they sent me a brand new one. As soon as I switched it out, things were good again!

Despite the trouble of dealing with the defective amp, I'm definitely happy with Outlaw's customer service. Dual X12's are amazing, btw
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What would you consider a massive room? I'm considering the X12 in a 3000cu ft room. Will it perform ok?



also any issues with port noise or is that fixed from the LFM?


Sorry I didn't see this! 3000 ft^3 is a medium sized room, it would work well in there. I have no had issue with port noise with mine, seems they fixed that with this X12.


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So according to Audioholics, Outlaw will be releasing their new Ultra-X13 sub! It's a 13", 1000 watt DSP sub with bridged power supplies and THX certification. 15Hz extension and can be tuned for various sound preferences.

Coming in at $1,499, it will have lots of competition but I'm anxious to see the numbers when they do their testing!


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New review is up by Brent Butterworth for the Outlaw X-13. The sub looks good!

http://soundstageaccess.com/index.ph...-x13-subwoofer
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New review is up by Brent Butterworth for the Outlaw X-13. The sub looks good!



http://soundstageaccess.com/index.ph...-x13-subwoofer

Good review! Seems like it's very competitive with the usual contenders at this price point in terms of output. If it does indeed have lower distortion due to meeting the THX spec, than it may be a very good choice!


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The new x13 meeting THX Ultra certification with a single subwoofer is a game changer like others have commented on. Being a THX aficionado, I can assure you this is a major accomplishment for a single sub. Just because a competitive subwoofer has a couple more db's mid-bass output doesn't mean it will sound good. Those low distortion numbers are what make it very special.
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Most other ID subs in that price range are pushing 120+ db above 40hz and 108+ db around 20hz. If you turned these subs down 1-2db they would have just as low distortion and still have a slight output advantage. So I agree the X13 is a great sub on paper(especially) at the current sale price of 1299.00, but it's nothing Earth shattering. I thought about trying one to compare to my PSA subs since Outlaw is currently offering a 30day trial with free return shipping on the X13. I like the down firing design.
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Most other ID subs in that price range are pushing 120+ db above 40hz and 108+ db around 20hz. If you turned these subs down 1-2db they would have just as low distortion and still have a slight output advantage. So I agree the X13 is a great sub on paper(especially) at the current sale price of 1299.00, but it's nothing Earth shattering. I thought about trying one to compare to my PSA subs since Outlaw is currently offering a 30day trial with free return shipping on the X13. I like the down firing design.
Is this a special offer no risk offer like SVS? If so, I didn't see it anywhere on the Outlaw site. If it's their standard policy on 30 day returns on items with the "free ground shipping" promo you get a refund, but less the cost of the ground shipping. I imagine a sub weighing over 100 lbs. packed and shipped isn't cheap. Same deal if you return a item you paid shipping on. You don't pay return shipping, but you don't get the initial shipping charge you paid refunded back.

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Is this a special offer no risk offer like SVS? If so, I didn't see it anywhere on the Outlaw site. If it's their standard policy on 30 day returns on items with the "free ground shipping" promo you get a refund, but less the cost of the ground shipping. I imagine a sub weighing over 100 lbs. packed and shipped isn't cheap. Same deal if you return a item you paid shipping on. You don't pay return shipping, but you don't get the initial shipping charge you paid refunded back.
It was mentioned at the end of the audioholics review that Outlaw offered free return shipping within 30 days for the X13. I was going to call and verify but I didn't. It's currently on sale for 1299.00 shipped until tomorrow @ midnight.


Fwiw, Return shipping on the V1801 was only 70.00.
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It was mentioned at the end of the audioholics review that Outlaw offered free return shipping within 30 days for the X13. I was going to call and verify but I didn't. It's currently on sale for 1299.00 shipped until tomorrow @ midnight.


Fwiw, Return shipping on the V1801 was only 70.00.
Yeah, you get free return shipping, but are on the hook for the initial shipping on a return, regardless of if you paid for it up front or not. Outlaw charges $159 to ship the Ultra-X13, so that's likely what they would ding you on a return under the free shipping promo.

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I recently packed up my whole house and moved, but when the movers were unscrewing the feet on my LFM1-EX, the threaded screw in the hole was broken off and lost inside the subwoofer. I can hear it rattling around in there. What are my suggested fixes? Just glue the spike in place? Or try to open up the sub by removing the woofer to try to find this screw inside?
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Does anyone know what the input sensitivity is on the 350 watt bash amp for the LMF-1 EX sub? I'm trying to use a miniDSP-2X4HD unbalanced and want to make sure there are no problems


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Does anyone think Outlaw will still be making this sub in 5 years? I'm in a apartment now, so one is more than enough. However, I will be out of college in another year and probably settled in somewhere within 5 and could see myself wanting a second as space allows. Financially I could buy another now but, I have a hard enough time keeping the peace with the neighbors with one.
Should I buy now, wait for the clearance sale when they stop production (is this sale it?), or?
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Does anyone think Outlaw will still be making this sub in 5 years? I'm in a apartment now, so one is more than enough. However, I will be out of college in another year and probably settled in somewhere within 5 and could see myself wanting a second as space allows. Financially I could buy another now but, I have a hard enough time keeping the peace with the neighbors with one.
Should I buy now, wait for the clearance sale when they stop production (is this sale it?), or?


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In 5 years you may want something totally different.


In 5 years he might have a new/different wife/girlfriend who won't let him keep the sub he has
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In 5 years he might have a new/different wife/girlfriend who won't let him keep the sub he has


In 5 years I plan to still be using my EX and have a larger area to play it in. If it's not worth having 5 years down the road, I will return it now. A girlfiriend will have to deal with whatever I have and I won't have a wife who wont let me have what I want.
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In 5 years I plan to still be using my EX and have a larger area to play it in. If it's not worth having 5 years down the road, I will return it now. A girlfiriend will have to deal with whatever I have and I won't have a wife who wont let me have what I want.


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In 5 years I plan to still be using my EX and have a larger area to play it in. If it's not worth having 5 years down the road, I will return it now. A girlfiriend will have to deal with whatever I have and I won't have a wife who wont let me have what I want.


LOL, its pretty hard to tell the future.
Who knows, the girl you fall for might be saying the same thing about her future man right now.
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LOL, its pretty hard to tell the future.
Who knows, the girl you fall for might be saying the same thing about her future man right now.


She might get the EX in the divorce.
So I was browsing the forums and looking at some of my old post and stumbled across this post and got quite the chuckle.
It's now just over 5 years...the GF at the time became a fiance. We moved out of the apartment and bought a house that has a much larger living room and no neighbors close enough to complain about how loud my music is. The fiance got the boot but, the LFM 1-EX is still rattling the walls. Moral of the story..quality audio gear is a worthy investment...quality women on the other hand are much harder to find!
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FYI the Outlaw Ultra X-13 is on sale atm for $1099. However you must have already registered for this sale to access it.
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FYI the Outlaw Ultra X-13 is on sale atm for $1099. However you must have already registered for this sale to access it.
They sent me the code overnight, and that price is stellar for the X13. Too bad that's not the regular price, as the new Monoprice 15" THX sub is going to really hurt the X13 sales.
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FYI the Outlaw Ultra X-13 is on sale atm for $1099. However you must have already registered for this sale to access it.
Is that what they had on sale. It was too much trouble to enter the code and see for myself. This secret nonsense has gotten old.
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