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post #211 of 7120 Old 04-19-2008, 04:23 AM
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Hi roadroach357,

Thanks for your input about adding the dimple disc and SPL reading. I am really looking forward to your results.

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So far I can tell you that raising it up from the spike level in deep pile carpet to the spike+dimple disc provides about 1dB SPL. Tomorrow I am going to cut some 2x2 pieces of 2x4 and raise it up even more and check the results. AND if I can find a piece of ceramic tile that will properly fit underneath I am going to try that as well (with and without the 2x4 pieces).

Hi roadroach357,

I worked with my LFM-1+ today. I have .5" pile carpet on top of .5" high-density carpet pad. There was very little room under the SW. I cut some pieces of hard wood and placed the SW with the spike + dimple disc on top of it. I now have 2.250" of clearance from the top of the carpet to the bottom of the SW. I haven't measured the SPL yet, but I noticed an immediate difference with playing movies. I am going to re-run the Audyssey EQ and set my levels tomorrow. What did you experience with your testing?

TIA,

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Hi roadroach357,

I worked with my LFM-1+ today. I have .5" pile carpet on top of .5" high-density carpet pad. There was very little room under the SW. I cut some pieces of hard wood and placed the SW with the spike + dimple disc on top of it. I now have 2.250" of clearance from the top of the carpet to the bottom of the SW. I haven't measured the SPL yet, but I noticed an immediate difference with playing movies. I am going to re-run the Audyssey EQ and set my levels tomorrow. What did you experience with your testing?

TIA,

Larry

Hey Larry-
Sorry it took so long to reply back but here is what I did over the weekend. I used 1x4 instead of 2x4 pieces along with the dimple disc. I didn't like the way the 2x4 pieces looked so I went with the 1x4's. I didn't detect any measurable difference in SPL after I did this but I did notice a big improvement in what I perceived to be pressure that I could feel. I then bought a piece of 3/4" MDF and cut it 25x17 to fit under the sub (MDF+dimple disc+spikes). This made a huge difference in my set up and I could "feel" the bass even better as compared to firing over the carpet. I got my neighbor to come over to make sure I wasn't hearing things and he agreed that the difference was huge. I also realized that I actually need 2 of these subs since my room opens up to basically the whole house (the living room is 4700 cubic feet plus the openings). But, since I'm not going to buy another one any time soon, I was looking for a way to improve things and I think I found it using the MDF. Hope this helps.
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Hi roadroach357,

Great idea!

I will try a 3/4" MDF under the sub. I have a 2850 cubic foot TR with a standard door as an entrance and this sub rocks the house! I am also looking for a second sub later this year or the MBM-12 Mid-Base Module from HSU.

Thanks again for your input and enjoy your new sub.

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Hi roadroach357,

Great idea!

I will try a 3/4" MDF under the sub. I have a 2850 cubic foot TR with a standard door as an entrance and this sub rocks the house! I am also looking for a second sub later this year or the MBM-12 Mid-Base Module from HSU.

Thanks again for your input and enjoy your new sub.

Larry

I'm also looking at the MBM-12 since my Def Tech speakers don't really have any impact with mid-bass. I've been doing some research the last couple of days and I'm going to try and build one myself if I can figure out which woofer and crossover to use.
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laugsbach & roadroach357,

Thanks for sharing your results. I am following this closely. Maybe the Subdude, or similar, device would work the best. It should be very similar to what you have done so far.

As for the MBM-12, I currently added one to my EX and it made a world of difference. I can now leave the EX in max extension mode for the low frequencies and the MBM just rocks the mids. It is truly worth the investment.

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laugsbach & roadroach357,

Thanks for sharing your results. I am following this closely. Maybe the Subdude, or similar, device would work the best. It should be very similar to what you have done so far.

As for the MBM-12, I currently added one to my EX and it made a world of difference. I can now leave the EX in max extension mode for the low frequencies and the MBM just rocks the mids. It is truly worth the investment.

I was afraid someone would say this about the MBM-12....decisions, decisions
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I was afraid someone would say this about the MBM-12....decisions, decisions

To play the role of the devil...

Just buy it!

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I have a 5,000 cubic foot room, and I'm looking for a sub in the $500-700 range. It will be primarily used for movies/tv and some music (probably 80% movies/tv however). My mains are Polk RTi A7's.

Is the LFM-1 EX enough sub for a 5,000 square foot room? How would the LFM-1 EX compare to the SVS PB12? Would something like a Polk PSW 505 (which has a 16" driver) be better for the large space?
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I have a 5,000 cubic foot room, and I'm looking for a sub in the $500-700 range. It will be primarily used for movies/tv and some music (probably 80% movies/tv however). My mains are Polk RTi A7's.

Is the LFM-1 EX enough sub for a 5,000 square foot room? How would the LFM-1 EX compare to the SVS PB12? Would something like a Polk PSW 505 (which has a 16" driver) be better for the large space?

I would say the EX is too small for your room. I would go with the MFW-15 if your budget and timeline would permit.

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After listening to Nemos Darla scene, I can honestly say I am SHOCKED by the output of my LFM-1 Plus, its downright amazing what a good subwoofer can do!

My room size is about 2000, with another 1000 connecting (big open wall).

If you are looking for a $500 subwoofer, this takes the cake in my book, bar none!

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Hi combos99,

New owner of a LFM-1+ here and I agree with you.

If you want an intense LFE movie, rent or buy Cloverfield....the "Shaky Camera" bit gets old very quickly, however, sit back and enjoy your subwoofer!

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I would say the EX is too small for your room. I would go with the MFW-15 if your budget and timeline would permit.

Thanks for the advice. I've heard the same thing from 4 people today, so I just ordered the MFW-15. Now I wait...
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Hi combos99,

New owner of a LFM-1+ here and I agree with you.

If you want an intense LFE movie, rent or buy Cloverfield....the "Shaky Camera" bit gets old very quickly, however, sit back and enjoy your subwoofer!

Larry

Congrats people on your new toys. I actually think Hot Fuzz was better for bass and overall a better movie.

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Hi weverb,

I was showing my wife your pictures in post #202 and she noticed in your second picture you have the same wood figure of a standing man & woman that we have. A friend of ours gave that to us after our wedding two years ago.

I told her just another reason to add the HSU MBM-12 to our system.

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Hi weverb,

I was showing my wife your pictures in post #202 and she noticed in your second picture you have the same wood figure of a standing man & woman that we have. A friend of ours gave that to us after our wedding two years ago.

I told her just another reason to add the HSU MBM-12 to our system.

Larry

That's the best reasoning I have ever heard!

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been looking to get a new sub for a while now, was looking ed a3-300 vs. HSU VFT 2 mk3, but have decided on an LFM-1+. I plan on calling on Monday, but does anyone know if it is possible to pick up the sub in Easton? I live just out side boston so I could make the road trip.

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I haven't heard of anyone doing that before, but I don't recall the question ever coming up, either. It's worth asking.

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Hey littlegoat,

My LFM-1+ was shipped on 4-1-08 from Carson, CA....

Good luck with your new sub, you are going to love it!

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thanks gonk & larry.

I will post what the answer is after work monday. Seems like a no, but can't hurt to ask
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so you can not pick up a sub in Easton, it has to be shipped.
Anyway hopefully the LFM-1+ will be here shortly.
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Hey littlegoat,

My shipment left on 4-1 and arrived at my local Fed-Ex by 4-4 (Friday late in the day). Finally delivered early on 4-7. I live in Ohio, maybe tack on one more day for your sub.

Good luck with your new toy! Let us all know what you think.

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I'm debating between the lfm-1 compact and the hsu stf-2. I just can't decide between the two. The lfm has a slightly more powerful amp (225 vs 200) but it weighs less than the hsu. Do you guys think the weight difference will affect the performance of the outlaw?
My home theater is in my basement in one half of a very long room, (11' x 36' x 7.5') I have two couches, the back couch sits on a 12" riser, and I have a black cloth devider closing off the theater from the rest of the room, making the theater 1500 ft3. total area of room is around 3000ft3 will either of these subs suffice?
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I'm debating between the lfm-1 compact and the hsu stf-2. I just can't decide between the two. The lfm has a slightly more powerful amp (225 vs 200) but it weighs less than the hsu. Do you guys think the weight difference will affect the performance of the outlaw?
My home theater is in my basement in one half of a very long room, (11' x 36' x 7.5') I have two couches, the back couch sits on a 12" riser, and I have a black cloth devider closing off the theater from the rest of the room, making the theater 1500 ft3. total area of room is around 3000ft3 will either of these subs suffice?
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You are going to need something with more power to fill 3,000 ft3! I would look at the EX or one of the more powerful HSU subs. I have a EX and a MBM-12 in an area just under 2,300 ft3. There are times I wish I had a more powerful sub like the MFW-15 to fill the space. Then again, my room is open to other spaces. With yours being a basement, you probably will get away with an EX, HSU 2.3, or HSU 3.3. The weight of the sub will effect how well the sub plays/handles the lower hz.

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Hey weverb-

What speaker set-up are you using along with the MBM-12?

scpete26-

I'm using the EX in a 4700 cubic ft. room with openings and its really not enough for my situation due to placement issues. But, I would definitely recommend the EX for your room size and turn it down if you have to. It is very powerful but in my situation it's squeezed into a corner next to a large entertainment center and a 4 foot wall. So in effect, mine is not fully "corner loaded" so to speak.
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Hey weverb-

What speaker set-up are you using along with the MBM-12?

I am hesitant to say since they do not get much props or support on here... I am running Triangle Antals with a Triangle center and M&K K4's for rears.

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Guys, $400 is my budget, I really would LOVE to get a bigger sub, but I don't want to be stuck sleeping on the porch either! right now I'm running a 125 watt htd level 2 sub (10") and it sounds pretty good, but it doesn't make your chest rattle or anything. I just need a little more umph, and a little more power in the lower end because with the new uncompressed audio, my htd sub clips out quite a bit. So do you guys think a 200 watt sub will be ok? maybe I could run both the new sub and my old one if I could get them sounding good together. I don't necessarily need to fill up the whole 3000 feet of area, just the 1500 feet that my theater is in.
Let me know what you guys think, and thanks for your advice.

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Go for the Hsu, it's a great sub.
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sub(lfm 1+) is up an running, ordered on monday and received today. haven't played to much but sounds great so far. the tank tapping in finding nemo sounded & felt great. very happy so far
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I ordered a b-stock hsu stf2.. got a pretty good deal on it.. thanks for the advice guys..

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