Just thought I'd tell you all something about my valor.
I've had it for about 6 months now, and it has been great. It is basically the only thing I havn't upgraded in this time period. It is also the only thing I havn't even contemplated upgrading.
My closest neighbor is about 1/6 mile away, and they complain about the bass. They say the have to wear earplugs at night just to sleep. So if you are questioning the valor's output, please don't unless you have a HUGE room, or are an absolute bass addict. And remember, if my neighbors could hear it that far away, you may want to think twice about getting a sub with more output if you have neighbors anywhere in that distance.
Oh, and I listen at levels occasionally peaking 113db.