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Old 09-28-2007, 11:53 AM
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Nope. The crated subwoofer sits on a pallet when shipped. It allows us to forklift it onto the truck easily and prevents damage during shipping if the shipping company decides to move it around.

Once you get the subwoofer, you just clip the plastic strapping with a scissors and take it off the pallet. The width is only about 26.5 inches in the packaging. It will very easily get through a door.

Phew, thats good to hear. This is what i had thought would be the case to begin with (worked in shipping and recieving for a couple years)
I really didnt want to advertise to the neighborhood that its me shaking there wall fixtures.
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The crate weighs a lot...

The crated subwoofer sits on a pallet when shipped.

Once you get the subwoofer, you just clip the plastic strapping with a scissors and take it off the pallet.

Sure... just take it right off. No sweat.
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haha. Yeah i'm sure its a peice of cake... (maybe for a moving company). For me though it may be tough.
I'm already getting things ready. I got the subwoofer cable all hooked up to my reciver and i moved some furniture giving it a place to live.. I may have to adjust it but so far I only have 2 choices really.
The current choice is to place it next to the tv facing sideways (not towards the couch, but towards the front door)
i'm sure this isn't optimal, but since the sub is 30" deep it will stick out quite a bit if facing forward. My other option is to move it over towards the corner wall on the other side of the tv and face it forward (towards the couch).. If its against the wall sticking out isn't as big of a deal. However, then it will be sitting just a few inches from the wall which is shared with our neighbor (i think its double thick but still)
The way it is facing now should be a lot less anoying for the neighbors... assuming i don't play too loud. If i turn it up i'm sure they'll feel it too.
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haha. Yeah i'm sure its a peice of cake... (maybe for a moving company). For me though it may be tough.
I'm already getting things ready. I got the subwoofer cable all hooked up to my reciver and i moved some furniture giving it a place to live.. I may have to adjust it but so far I only have 2 choices really.
The current choice is to place it next to the tv facing sideways (not towards the couch, but towards the front door)
i'm sure this isn't optimal, but since the sub is 30" deep it will stick out quite a bit if facing forward. My other option is to move it over towards the corner wall on the other side of the tv and face it forward (towards the couch).. If its against the wall sticking out isn't as big of a deal. However, then it will be sitting just a few inches from the wall which is shared with our neighbor (i think its double thick but still)
The way it is facing now should be a lot less anoying for the neighbors... assuming i don't play too loud. If i turn it up i'm sure they'll feel it too.

I couldn't even imagine having the conquest in an apartment. I would have the police at my door everyday!
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i'll be moving out soon enough (end of november or early december)
Its going to be a long 2 months though.
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Where are the Valor pictures ?

We are working on new pictures for all of the products including the drivers and better pictures of the cabinets. It is one of those projects where once you start doing one of them, you might as well do them all at once. We also got a large group of Conquest orders this week which kind of slowed down the picture taking progress.

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How much does the Valor weigh ?

It weighs about 78 pounds. The cabinet and driver are pretty beefy.

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1 conquest or 3 valors ?

both about the same price, which would be better assuming the 3 valors are stacked

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>> How much does the Valor weigh ?

It weighs about 78 pounds. The cabinet and driver are pretty beefy.

Hmm, seems kinda light. When are the new sealed subs due out?
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At $1599, even a hard core DIYer like me would consider it a bargain.

Good point there Shervie! I guess I'm really out of the loop lately. Dang!.. It looks like a stellar product. I love the straightforward simplistic look of the design. Knowing what we do about DIY, I can tell the truly major woofage landscape is a changing

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We are working on new pictures for all of the products including the drivers and better pictures of the cabinets. It is one of those projects where once you start doing one of them, you might as well do them all at once. We also got a large group of Conquest orders this week which kind of slowed down the picture taking progress.



It weighs about 78 pounds. The cabinet and driver are pretty beefy.

where are the driver pix of the conquest? people have been asking for them a LONG time already.
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where are the driver pix of the conquest? people have been asking for them a LONG time already.

Order a Conquest, tear it apart, and post pics for us.
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Order a Conquest, tear it apart, and post pics for us.

Don't forget to put it back together though!

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Order a Conquest, tear it apart, and post pics for us.

When I buy things its to upgrade not downgrade..

I am just curious I know others are to.
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Iggy, how can you be so sure it would be a downgrade??
After all, we all know they stole your design, maybe they improved it. It does have an 18" driver too. That can't hurt. A long throw with a larger diameter, it might even come close to the all-mighty internet gangster's (aka iggster) subwoofer.
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Iggy, how can you be so sure it would be a downgrade??
After all, well all know they stole your design, maybe they improved it. It does have an 18" driver too. That can't hurt. A long throw with a larger diameter, it might even come close to the all-mighty internet gangster's (aka iggster) subwoofer.

I highly doubt its a better driver then the lms 5400 especially with the price they are gonna sell them for.
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Your comparing a DIY driver to a commercial ready made application with amplifier, box, and driver with a design that is fine tuned for maximum performance.
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Your comparing a DIY driver to a commercial ready made application with amplifier, box, and driver with a design that is fine tuned for maximum performance.

I asked for pictures of the driver.
craigsub suggested I buy the conquest and take it apart
I quoted and said I buy things to upgrade not downgrade.

simple as that.
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I asked for pictures of the driver.
craigsub suggested I buy the conquest and take it apart
I quoted and said I buy things to upgrade not downgrade.

simple as that.

Iggster, I was kidding.

There is no way I thought you would ever part with $1599 for a subwoofer that did not have Iggydust ... that miraculous substance that gets 10 dB more SPL out of a driver than it is capable of delivering.
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Iggster, I was kidding.

Iggydust ... that miraculous substance that gets 10 dB more SPL out of a driver than it is capable of delivering.

That's what I need then I wouldn't want an upgrade so bad. I wonder if it's in my price range??
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That's what I need then I wouldn't want an upgrade so bad. I wonder if it's in my price range??

$1700 got me an lms 5400 and a crown xti 4000 and materials for the new box.
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Then head right over to the DIY thread...

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$1700 got me an lms 5400 and a crown xti 4000 and materials for the new box.

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Then head right over to the DIY thread...

No thanks, I am waiting for some pix. Just to see if my "friend" is telling the truth about the conquest using a very similar driver to the fi audio q.
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It does have an 18" driver too. That can't hurt. A long throw with a larger diameter, it might even come close to the all-mighty internet gangster's (aka iggster) subwoofer.

Or mine.






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No thanks, I am waiting for some pix. Just to see if my "friend" is telling the truth about the conquest using a very similar driver to the fi audio q.

tell your friend to give you some of that weed he's smoking, because it must be some powerful sh!t

the Conquest driver is NOTHING like an avalanche driver, much less a Q18...
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Latest low-end FR...

The low end is nice and strong, but the far more important midbass area where there is stuff you can actually hear needs some emergency treatment.
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The low end is nice and strong, but the far more important midbass area where there is stuff you can actually hear needs some emergency treatment.

maybe he likes it that way? I know I like "low" bass to have way more impact then midbass.
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I doubt anyone does what's going on there between about 35hz and 70hz on purpose.
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I doubt anyone does what's going on there between about 35hz and 70hz on purpose.

well he might not but I lowpassed my sub at 45 hertz.





I must say not to bad saying thats at listening position with no eq/filters applied. (tc 2000 graph the lms 5400 the dip starts at 15 hertz and is a tad smoother on the fr)
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That one looks good.
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Well, I did what I could but the room aint perfect. Ive tried all sorts of room placement (pretty hard when they are that huge) and crossed over @ 60hz. Its the best I could do for now. Point being that my lowend is incredible and any other sub would be just as bad in the "midbass region"... except for the small null between 45-55hz the area above is within 10dB so its not that bad, actually. My graph has ZERO smoothing and is seperated with 5dB sections. Not bad, actually considering the geometry of the room.


Iggsters post doesnt include the area about 50hz so you can really tell there either. Mine has the subs and mains in there.

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