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post #20821 of 20838 Old 07-31-2016, 06:51 PM
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I bought a Behringer iNuke 6000DSP to power my 2 Empires. I've been very happy. The fans in the iNuke are noisy but I have my gear in another room.

I don't know much about plate amps, others in this thread have posted about it, most buying from Parts Express.

I'd look into a single amp if you could, needing to buy 4 plate amps could be spendy. Although, perhaps there's a plate amp that could power 2 Empires...
If I go with an external amp that's the one I plan to get, even though it will be in my living room and I'm unsure about the fan noise. I wish I could find an original replacement amp for sale but I've had no luck. I'm just not sure what I'm going to do yet.
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If I go with an external amp that's the one I plan to get, even though it will be in my living room and I'm unsure about the fan noise. I wish I could find an original replacement amp for sale but I've had no luck. I'm just not sure what I'm going to do yet.
You definitely do not want an original replacement. Just about everyone is eventually having problems with them.

Depending on you living room setup, remember that the iNuke's have rack ears. They work fine on a shelf, but they do look like they should be rack mounted. A lot of people have replaced the fans with quieter ones. Behringer chose industrial type fans instead of PC type fans, so there was little concern for noise.

If I was putting an iNuke in my living room, I'd buy replacement fans, and little rubber feet for the amp itself and call it a day. If you don't really have a place for it, I'd see if you could find a plate amp that could power 2 Empires and get them. At least that way they are unseen.

I'd remove the plate amp off one of your broken Empires so you know what your working with. You said you had 4 Empires, right? Are they all together, separate or in groups of 2?
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Yes I have 2 stacked in a front corner and 2 stacked in a rear corner.

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Truckramrod I have four of these same drivers. They are 12s from the Epik sentinel Subwoofer. Is that an IB set up?
I didn't believe this driver was suitable for that because of its very low Qts. I made a pair of 3cuft subs each with one driver. They are incredible down to below 20hz. I'm going to make two more. Are they yours?
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Here is the chain: Onkyo TX-NR708 >>> miniDSP >>> iNUKE 6000 >>> Epik Empire w/female Speakon connector

I am planning to power my dual Epik Empires with an Inuke 6000.

I would like to also use a MiniDSP in the chain but am not sure if I should go with the miniDSP 2x4 or the miniDSP 2x4 Balanced.

I plan on replacing the balanced inputs on the stock plate amp with female Speakon connectors.



Please advise.
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Here is the chain: Onkyo TX-NR708 >>> miniDSP >>> iNUKE 6000 >>> Epik Empire w/female Speakon connector

I am planning to power my dual Epik Empires with an Inuke 6000.

I would like to also use a MiniDSP in the chain but am not sure if I should go with the miniDSP 2x4 or the miniDSP 2x4 Balanced.

I plan on replacing the balanced inputs on the stock plate amp with female Speakon connectors.



Please advise.
The output limit on the unbalanced 2x4 is 0.9V, the balanced 2x4 can do 2.0V output, so depends on your amp sensitivity.
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Here is the chain: Onkyo TX-NR708 >>> miniDSP >>> iNUKE 6000 >>> Epik Empire w/female Speakon connector

I am planning to power my dual Epik Empires with an Inuke 6000.

I would like to also use a MiniDSP in the chain but am not sure if I should go with the miniDSP 2x4 or the miniDSP 2x4 Balanced.

I plan on replacing the balanced inputs on the stock plate amp with female Speakon connectors.

Please advise.
Why not just get the 6000DSP and skip the miniDSP?

Also, post pics of your Speakon install. After I removed the plate amp and saw the speaker wire going into a drilled hole in the MDF I just used a terminal strip.
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Why not just get the 6000DSP and skip the miniDSP?

Also, post pics of your Speakon install. After I removed the plate amp and saw the speaker wire going into a drilled hole in the MDF I just used a terminal strip.
That is what I actually decided last night, to go with the 6000DSP and skip the miniDSP. I will take pics and post as I work through it.
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I finally had the time to set up an iNuke 6000DSP to push my two Epik Empires. I ran REW and Audy but I still have some more tweaking to do. However, they run fine for now until I have some alone time with REW.

First, I removed the plate amp and cut the speaker wire to free up the plate amp:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...606977&thumb=1

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Second, I crimped on some 0.187" insulated female disconnects:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...606993&thumb=1

Third, I connected a Neutrik Speakon NL4MP to the speaker wire:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...607001&thumb=1

Fourth, I removed the original crossover and LFE input terminals:

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Fifth, I attached two Neutrik Speakon NL4MPs in place of the original crossover and LFE input terminals on the plate amp face:

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I finally had the time to set up an iNuke 6000DSP to push my two Epik Empires. I ran REW and Audy but I still have some more tweaking to do. However, they run fine for now until I have some alone time with REW.
I still haven't run REW. I bought a calibrated microphone in 2014 and haven't gotten around to using it.

That install looks good. Someone bought my plate amps so my options were more limited. I'd like to get a metal plate made with a single plug in the middle for Speakon, but that will probably never happen. The terminal strip has been working great for 2 years.
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Epik Legend

I have a fully functioning Epik Legend that I have replaced. No signs of amp failure or other technical issues. I am interested in getting rid of it. shipping it whole is not an option. I would be willing to disassemble the drivers and amp and sell them as long as the buyer pays shipping and also gives me a reasonable offer for them.
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I have a fully functioning Epik Legend that I have replaced. No signs of amp failure or other technical issues. I am interested in getting rid of it. shipping it whole is not an option. I would be willing to disassemble the drivers and amp and sell them as long as the buyer pays shipping and also gives me a reasonable offer for them.
Sell it on craigslist.

Why are you getting rid of it? What are you replacing it with?
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I'd also go with Craigslist/local pickup. The drivers nor amp are all that valuable for a diy project, but a compete functioning sub....
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My Sentinel is still plugging along just fine, still a pretty good sub...although the upgrade bug has been biting lately. I was really bummed to see how things went south with Chad & Epic because initially the subs were good. I am sure others are still enjoying theirs out there...I have read somewhere on the forums (can't remember who or where) that all subwoofer drivers have a finite lifespan, around 5 years. Any opinions on that?

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I have 2 Empires in my room and they are both still sounding great,however I did have to replace the amps on both of them while Epik was still open.


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My Sentinel is still plugging along just fine, still a pretty good sub...although the upgrade bug has been biting lately. I was really bummed to see how things went south with Chad & Epic because initially the subs were good. I am sure others are still enjoying theirs out there...I have read somewhere on the forums (can't remember who or where) that all subwoofer drivers have a finite lifespan, around 5 years. Any opinions on that?
Drivers should last a lot longer than 5 years unless you abuse them. I have subs that are over 15 years old that work fine.
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My Sentinel is still plugging along just fine, still a pretty good sub...although the upgrade bug has been biting lately. I was really bummed to see how things went south with Chad & Epic because initially the subs were good. I am sure others are still enjoying theirs out there...I have read somewhere on the forums (can't remember who or where) that all subwoofer drivers have a finite lifespan, around 5 years. Any opinions on that?
Is that at very high spl for 5 years 24/7 or something? I'd expect much longer life from a driver, unless as was said it was abused....my Empire is fine after 7 years of frequent use. Even old foam surrounds lasted longer than 5 years and these butyl type (I think they're butyl) should last longer than foam....
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