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Thought about that myself, put the SB12+ on top, or on the other side of the TV with the SB Ultra 13. Loop from one to the other, then use antimode.

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Pseudo dumb question.

I had the great fortune of buying a SB13 Ultra with less than a year of use for a great price, and have two decent but not great subs currently hooked up (think Elemental Designs A2-300 + Klipsch RW-12)

My question is, would I be better off running all 3 subs or just the SB13 Ultra since it's so far and away superior to the other two?

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Hi folks,

I picked up a new PB13 Ultra today. Unpacked it, set it up but aside from the quick set up guide, it had no other instructions. Is there an on-line manual that I can download?
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Pseudo dumb question.

I had the great fortune of buying a SB13 Ultra with less than a year of use for a great price, and have two decent but not great subs currently hooked up (think Elemental Designs A2-300 + Klipsch RW-12)

My question is, would I be better off running all 3 subs or just the SB13 Ultra since it's so far and away superior to the other two?

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You are likely to greatly improve your FR above 30/40 Hz. The problem will be in the deep bass where the difference in roll off between the sealed and ported subs cause them to be out of phase, resulting in bad cancellations. So for music it would probably improve things. For movies it would be a train wreck.
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You are likely to greatly improve your FR above 30/40 Hz. The problem will be in the deep bass where the difference in roll off between the sealed and ported subs cause them to be out of phase, resulting in bad cancellations. So for music it would probably improve things. For movies it would be a train wreck.
Man you are spot on, I have spent the last 2 days trying to balance the 3 subs and it's been virtually impossible. Doesn't help that I need to keep relatively low volume levels (2 year old) so testing bass heavy scenes or test tones is tricky.

I eventually just went to the Ultra by itself and have been focused on getting it dialed in perfectly.

LOVE it so far, it actually sounds fantastic even at relatively low volume levels with BOTH music and movies. Amazing sub.

But I keep wondering how duals would sound...can't get it out of my mind enough to even enjoy the single SB13 Ultra
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I picked up a new PB13 Ultra today. Unpacked it, set it up but aside from the quick set up guide, it had no other instructions. Is there an on-line manual that I can download?
Congrats!

Here you go: http://www.svsound.com/support/document-library

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Man you are spot on, I have spent the last 2 days trying to balance the 3 subs and it's been virtually impossible. Doesn't help that I need to keep relatively low volume levels (2 year old) so testing bass heavy scenes or test tones is tricky.

I eventually just went to the Ultra by itself and have been focused on getting it dialed in perfectly.

LOVE it so far, it actually sounds fantastic even at relatively low volume levels with BOTH music and movies. Amazing sub.

But I keep wondering how duals would sound...can't get it out of my mind enough to even enjoy the single SB13 Ultra
I think you are on the right track....get it set up as good as you can with the single ultra. And yes, duals will sound better especially for music. From what I have seen, one sub usually gives a pretty good response under 40 Hz, but very uneven above 40 HZ. So for movies, you mainly gain headroom in the deep bass with dual subs, but they give a much better quality bass for music due to the flatter response you can get.

I suggest your next step, if you are serious about having great bass, is to get Umik-1 mic from miniDSP, download REW, and measure your room. For $75 you can check you in room Frequency response and determine if you need to adjust placement or if a second sub is really needed. I was happy with one sub until I measured the room..........
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Hi folks, I'm going to look at buying a used pc13 ultra, and the seller is willing to demo it for me before purchase. Is there anything in particular I should listen for or visually inspect in order to ensure it is okay? Any common problems I can check for?

Also, it is an older model with the Bash amp, is there a significant difference in performance or anything else I should be worried about with it?
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Hi folks, I'm going to look at buying a used pc13 ultra, and the seller is willing to demo it for me before purchase. Is there anything in particular I should listen for or visually inspect in order to ensure it is okay? Any common problems I can check for?

Also, it is an older model with the Bash amp, is there a significant difference in performance or anything else I should be worried about with it?
Just a little less powerful. Nothing substantially different.
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Hi folks, I'm going to look at buying a used pc13 ultra, and the seller is willing to demo it for me before purchase. Is there anything in particular I should listen for or visually inspect in order to ensure it is okay? Any common problems I can check for?

Also, it is an older model with the Bash amp, is there a significant difference in performance or anything else I should be worried about with it?
Just look it over and have a listen.

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RCA vs. Balanced connections

I've owned the PB13 Ultra for about 6 years. I have always used the RCA connection.

I purchased a Marantz AV 8801 last Fall and was considering using the XLR connection to the sub. This would not be easy since all of my AV equipment is in a closet in another room and everything is wired in the walls. If I want to use the Balanced connection on the PB13 Ultra I'd have to run roughly 30' of XLR cable through the walls again.

I'm wondering if all that work would really be worth it. Have any long time PB13 Ultra owners gone from RCA to XLR and is there a discernible difference?

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I've owned the PB13 Ultra for about 6 years. I have always used the RCA connection.

I purchased a Marantz AV 8801 last Fall and was considering using the XLR connection to the sub. This would not be easy since all of my AV equipment is in a closet in another room and everything is wired in the walls. If I want to use the Balanced connection on the PB13 Ultra I'd have to run roughly 30' of XLR cable through the walls again.

I'm wondering if all that work would really be worth it. Have any long time PB13 Ultra owners gone from RCA to XLR and is there a discernible difference?
I replaced my long RCA runs to my 13 ultras with XLR and that solved my noise issues. Was getting soft buzzing that was driving me nuts. My cables were on floor rather than in walls. In my case, yes there was a discernible improvement as noise is completely gone.

After spending the substantial monies for dual 13 ultras, the XLR solution worked well for me. YMMV.

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I replaced my long RCA runs to my 13 ultras with XLR and that solved my noise issues. Was getting soft buzzing that was driving me nuts. My cables were on floor rather than in walls. In my case, yes there was a discernible improvement as noise is completely gone.

After spending the substantial monies for dual 13 ultras, the XLR solution worked well for me. YMMV.

Thanks for the reply. I don't have any buzzing, not that my ears can hear anyway. I contacted SVS on this and they said XLR would make no difference unless I was the having noise issues that you mentioned.
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I've owned the PB13 Ultra for about 6 years. I have always used the RCA connection.

I purchased a Marantz AV 8801 last Fall and was considering using the XLR connection to the sub. This would not be easy since all of my AV equipment is in a closet in another room and everything is wired in the walls. If I want to use the Balanced connection on the PB13 Ultra I'd have to run roughly 30' of XLR cable through the walls again.

I'm wondering if all that work would really be worth it. Have any long time PB13 Ultra owners gone from RCA to XLR and is there a discernible difference?

Thanks in adavance

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I change all my connection to XLR and there is no going back.
Less floor noise (slight hisss from RCA to none with XLR).
A much better connection since they lock in.
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Going Dual

After owning my SB13-Ultra for 3 weeks I've decided to go dual. Never thought I would have spent $3000 on subs. But let's face it; we are bass-junkies. I know there are cheaper solutions out there but when you get a taste of SVS there's no going back. BTW- this SB ultra rocks. Having 1 is more than enough, but having 2 should put me in bass heaven.
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After owning my SB13-Ultra for 3 weeks I've decided to go dual. Never thought I would have spent $3000 on subs. But let's face it; we are bass-junkies. I know there are cheaper solutions out there but when you get a taste of SVS there's no going back. BTW- this SB ultra rocks. Having 1 is more than enough, but having 2 should put me in bass heaven.
I agree 100%! I'm patiently waiting for funds to get my second SB13 Ultra. Probably not till this time next year. Congrats on the duals and let us know how much better it is than just a single sub. How big is your room? Mine is just a tad under 2000 cu ft.

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Been following this thread for many YEARS now and just ordered dual PC-13s today! I've never owned anything other then a HTIB sub so hopefully these will make me crap my pants!
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Been following this thread for many YEARS now and just ordered dual PC-13s today! I've never owned anything other then a HTIB sub so hopefully these will make me crap my pants!
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Ha! Lets hope so.
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Been following this thread for many YEARS now and just ordered dual PC-13s today! I've never owned anything other then a HTIB sub so hopefully these will make me crap my pants!
I can't wait to hear your impressions!
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Ha! Lets hope so.
I have one. Will be getting the 2nd hopefully by Christmas. So, I do know what one can do.
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Which ultra to get I am looking for a ht sub and like the ultras do you think there is a Difference between the sealed or ported? I am planing on getting 2 one this year and one next year. My room is 24 x 15 with a 11 x 11 room open to the side with a 10' hall way coming into the room. Which one would you get.
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Which ultra to get I am looking for a ht sub and like the ultras do you think there is a Difference between the sealed or ported? I am planing on getting 2 one this year and one next year. My room is 24 x 15 with a 11 x 11 room open to the side with a 10' hall way coming into the room. Which one would you get.
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For that, I'd look into PB or PC Ultra (ported)

I do prefer the SB but I'm in small room.

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Ported for larger rooms.

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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Thanks the ported is what I was thinking about too, just wanted to get other people thoughts.
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