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post #181 of 2029 Old 03-15-2008, 05:09 PM
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Tdekany not to sound ignorant or anything but i have followed and been lurking here reading etc... what this man TheEar has been posting I really think this guy knows what the hell he is talking about...

TheEar as far as i can see has probably built more subs/experimented with more subwoofers/electronics then anyone else i have seen posted anywhere, The guy knows how to build very good if not great sounding bass period!!!

On top of all that he never put hsu stuff down only praises (so whats the problem)


I am with you on all of the above. What sounded very off is his comment about what is and what isn't possible. I mean to say that what we have & know today is what IS is very close minded in my book. Didn't expected that from him.

And I tried making it very clear that it had nothing to do with HSU. It was about technology in general, but once he responded and came back with me being a fanboy, it was obvious that his ego got hurt.

I personally don't care about what people think of people, I draw my conclusions from what I read here. Having 30+ subs doesn't make you any more special. Once in awhile we all can use a reality check I think.

I hope that answers your question.
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What sounded very off is his comment about what is and what isn't possible. I mean to say that what we have & know today is what IS is very close minded in my book.

How is it closed minded to make conclusions based on what we DO know currently. Would it be better to make predictions based on what we do not know?
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How is it closed minded to make conclusions based on what we DO know currently.

Because it is the year 2008. We are evolving at a pretty great speed.

Let me say this again in case you missed it earlier.

EVEN (just) 50 YEARS FROM NOW (never mind 100 years) PEOPLE WILL LAUGH AT OUR SO CALLED HIGHT TECH WORLD OF TODAY.

If you can't see that, than I am sorry for you.
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Pete as the end of March draws nigh are there any updates on the mystery sub front?

A name, pick, stats, price, dimensions, eta for next info... anything? Inquiring minds want to know
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Hey nweibley,

The sub does have a name now, owners guide is ready, specs have been determined, and I have a good idea where I would like to price it at too. It will probably be 1-1.5 months before all the info is unveiled though. We hope to have the sub ready for sale within 2 months.

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hey Pete, enough for massive orders and prevent a backorder?

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Hey Pete, how much improvement will this new sub give compared to the older flagship sub?
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Hey nweibley,

The sub does have a name now, owners guide is ready, specs have been determined, and I have a good idea where I would like to price it at too. It will probably be 1-1.5 months before all the info is unveiled though. We hope to have the sub ready for sale within 2 months.

Sincerely,

Pete, that was all the news I needed to hear. Thanks buddy!
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Hi guys,

Yes Mike, we will have plenty of them!

chengbin, you guys will have to wait and see, but it should definitely represent a nice improvement in several different areas...

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So many choices in the sub world.....my head is spinning.

Now I will have to wait a couple months to see about this one too.
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I know how it will be called ! TheLongBentPort...or TLBP for the HSU fans.

Ask yourself mortal , do you have as much displacement as me ? The answer is no unless you have a Windmere fan sub.
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Something like this perhaps?




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Because it is the year 2008. We are evolving at a pretty great speed.

Let me say this again in case you missed it earlier.

EVEN (just) 50 YEARS FROM NOW (never mind 100 years) PEOPLE WILL LAUGH AT OUR SO CALLED HIGHT TECH WORLD OF TODAY.

If you can't see that, than I am sorry for you.

50! Try more like 10 or 20...technology is advancing in an exponential manner...

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Something like this perhaps?




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Nice Tim. Just saw their show last week at the Venetian in Vegas. It's pretty entertaining...though I was a bit disappointed by the lack of bass in the theater .
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Pete, currently the HO is the flagship for HSU, will this new sub be the new flagship?
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The new HSU sub is said to be smaller than the 3.3, which is 21.5(h) X 17(w) X 25(d)
Could we expect a 20"x20"x20" or smaller cube? Perhaps similar to the Fathom f113?

Just trying to learn...
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The new HSU sub is said to be smaller than the 3.3, which is 21.5(h) X 17(w) X 25(d)
Could we expect a 20"x20"x20" or smaller cube? Perhaps similar to the Fathom f113?

I have seen a prototype, and would say it was maybe a tad smaller than the F113.
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I have seen a prototype, and would say it was maybe a tad smaller than the F113.

With better performance than the 3.3? Got my instrest.
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I have seen a prototype, and would say it was maybe a tad smaller than the F113.

Smaller than (or same size as) Fathom f113
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Better performance than 3.3 or HO
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Under $1000
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Getting my wallet ready! Can't wait to buy one! Even my wife will want to buy one!

Just trying to learn...
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Any news on this little beast?

Just trying to learn...
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im shopping for a new subwoofer and there are so many great choices and now i read about this amazing sub from hsu.

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Dang I my AV123 MFW-15 has already shipped and now I hear about this thing.

But I guess if you keep waiting for the next best thing you will wait forever.

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Can a pair of MBM's be placed in a cabinet in the front of the room to pair with my Klipsch RB-61's or do they need to be placed in the open.

Sorry for the OT, if you want midbass then check out the sealed contactor series of subs from velodyne (SC8,SC10, SC12, etc) , they can be placed in a cabinet and they sound amazing from 50 to 120 Hz!!


As for a small sub hitting 10 Hz, this is pretty cool! I havent read all the posts in this thread but I suspect Steve Callas, TheEar and some of the other expert DIY Sub builders will have posted two things....we have done 10Hz for a long time with bigger subs or IB arrays and that its almost impossible to do 10Hz with that size box.

We shall see, I wonder if any DIYers have plug numbers into WinISD to get a small box to produce 10 Hz?

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Sorry for the OT, if you want midbass then check out the sealed contactor series of subs from velodyne (SC8,SC10, SC12, etc) , they can be placed in a cabinet and they sound amazing from 50 to 120 Hz!!


As for a small sub hitting 10 Hz, this is pretty cool! I havent read all the posts in this thread but I suspect Steve Callas, TheEar and some of the other expert DIY Sub builders will have posted two things....we have done 10Hz for a long time with bigger subs or IB arrays and that its almost impossible to do 10Hz with that size box.

We shall see, I wonder if any DIYers have plug numbers into WinISD to get a small box to produce 10 Hz?

No what would be amazing is if Hsu tells us that the sub is -3db at 10Hz and only a 20" cube all for less than 1,000.
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No what would be amazing is if Hsu tells us that the sub is -3db at 10Hz and only a 20" cube all for less than 1,000.

That is possible if your maximum overall output across the entire range is only about 90db. Otherwise, Dr. Hsu has discovered a way to defy the laws of physics.
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No what would be amazing is if Hsu tells us that the sub can:

- run to 10hz +/- 3db at over 95db

- maintain less than 10% THD across the full passband at an SPL sufficient to produce over 95db at 10hz

- maintain group delay of less than 1 cycle across the full passband

- deliver this in an enclosure no larger than any of their existing subs

- for any price

To do 10hz is one thing. To deliver it cleanly, clearly, accurately and at sufficient volume to be significant is an entirely different thing.

Good luck to Hsu, and I look forward to seeing performance details whenever this sub does appear.


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some technology similar to the yamaha active servo technology?

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some technology similar to the yamaha active servo technology?

That must be a great system which would explain why Yamaha is known for it's fantastic subs.
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That must be a great system which would explain why Yamaha is known for it's fantastic subs.

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No what would be amazing is if Hsu tells us that the sub can:

- run to 10hz +/- 3db at over 95db

- maintain less than 10% THD across the full passband at an SPL sufficient to produce over 95db at 10hz

- maintain group delay of less than 1 cycle across the full passband

- deliver this in an enclosure no larger than any of their existing subs

- for any price

To do 10hz is one thing. To deliver it cleanly, clearly, accurately and at sufficient volume to be significant is an entirely different thing.

Good luck to Hsu, and I look forward to seeing performance details whenever this sub does appear.


Tim

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