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post #301 of 317 Old 06-18-2014, 11:32 AM
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Ok I am looking for subs that have Room Equalization as my pre/pro has none !

Here are the choices

1. Paradigm SUB1 http://www.paradigm.com/products-cur.../page=overview

2. Velodyne Digital Drive Plus 15 http://velodyne.com/subwoofers/digit...e-plus-15.html

3. B&W DB1 http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Speake...ofers/DB1.html

4. Revel Rythm 2 http://www.revelspeakers.com/Products/Details/221

or maybe the JL Audio F212 http://www.jlaudio.com/f212-gloss-ho...bwoofers-96150
Some good options in your list of choices. Is it going in the same room as your 800 series B&Ws or a different room? If it were me I'd probably pick the Paradigm Sub 1. It has a good room correction built in and lots of output in a reasonably sized package. No bad choices in your list so it's win-win.

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Hey guys. Looks like the sub for my Infinity TSS-800 setup went out. I still use the 5 satellite speakers from it, but I am going to need a new sub!

1. budget.- $150

2. Size requirements/limits. - None.

3. Room dimensions. 15 x 18. It's a living room in a townhouse and the "theater" is in one end.

4. Primary uses - TV and Movies,

5. Listening habits.- Normal Viewing. Loud enough to get a rumble.

6. Appearance requirements. None

7. Timeframe. None

I have looked a bit and have a few in mind but would be welcome to more suggestions (Or just a recommendation of the ones I've looked at.
BIC V-80, Dayton Sub-1200, Polk PSW110.

Thanks!
I'm not sure why the 8-inch BIC is on your list since one can get the V1220 with a 12-inch driver for around your budget (a sub I do own). Out of those listed, the Dayton SUB-1200 might be your best bet. Not familiar with the 10-inch Polk.
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Some good options in your list of choices. Is it going in the same room as your 800 series B&Ws or a different room? If it were me I'd probably pick the Paradigm Sub 1. It has a good room correction built in and lots of output in a reasonably sized package. No bad choices in your list so it's win-win.
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Looking for advice on what sub to purchase.

Budget: $800-1500
Size requirement: none
Room size: 14x20x9, but since it is bonus room above garage, the ceiling is sloped on both sides. Approx cu ft is 2400.
Primary use: dedicated home theater room. Mostly movies. Some music from paladia music channel, but I am most interested in a loud tight theater.
Listening habits: reference level if it is a good action flick. Usually loud.
Appearance: none
Time: none

I use my room wide instead of long. The only place I get a decent bass response on both sides of couch (main listening area) is for the sub to be placed directly behind couch. I can close off my room completely. I feel I am missing some lower end slam with current sub (pa120) and time for upgrade. I've been considering an svs pb2000, 2x pb2000, hsu vtf15, psa15, psa30, rythmic fv15hp. I want bone shaking, chest slamming feel in my room. Any suggestions?

Here's my current gear:
Pani 65 vt30
Onkyo 818 with aud xt32 (but no sub eq)
PSB image t6 front and matching center
Surrounds are nht subzeros
15 homemade 2'x2'x2" acoustic panels in room (no bass traps)
Sub: Pa120
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Ok I am looking for subs that have Room Equalization as my pre/pro has none !

Here are the choices

1. Paradigm SUB1 http://www.paradigm.com/products-cur.../page=overview

2. Velodyne Digital Drive Plus 15 http://velodyne.com/subwoofers/digit...e-plus-15.html

3. B&W DB1 http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Speake...ofers/DB1.html

4. Revel Rythm 2 http://www.revelspeakers.com/Products/Details/221

or maybe the JL Audio F212 http://www.jlaudio.com/f212-gloss-ho...bwoofers-96150
Or any sub with antimode, SVS EQ1, SMS-1 or other subwoofer EQ units.

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Or any sub with antimode, SVS EQ1, SMS-1 or other subwoofer EQ units.
SVS EQ1 non longer on sale!
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True. SMS-1 is probably no longer available. But I guess second hand.

Which is better SVS EQ1 or antimode? I believe the EQ1 can be configured from a computer, you can see response and corrections?

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Budget: 200-350
Room size: 15 X 15 on living room.

Any recommendation or older sub from Craigslist?
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Budget: 200-350
Room size: 15 X 15 on living room.

Any recommendation or older sub from Craigslist?
You mighty be able to find an Epik
Legend for around 300.
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Hey everybody. Audio amateur here & would love some advice/opinions. I need a sub and would really appreciate some recommendations.

I have a modest inwall system. Paradigm CD-160 v3 in walls for front left, front right and both rear and a Paradigm Cinema 400 for the center channel.

1. budget.- $200 ideal, up to $300/$350 possible. I could go higher, but really don't know if I would appreciate the difference.

2. Size requirements/limits. - It was the WAF that led me to the inwalls, so the smaller the better. I have an older sub that is a black cube at 13"x13"x13" and that was fine. I'd say going up to 15" or 16" cubed is no big deal, but would rather not get too much bigger.

3. Room dimensions. Maybe 2200 cubic feet. Roughly 20'x14x8. TV faces couch on the shorter dimension with maybe 12 ft between screen and viewer. It's a living room w TV mounted above fireplace.

4. Primary uses - TV & kids movies 50%, Music 40% (background, not cricical listening / Movies to really push/enjoy system 10%

5. Listening habits.- Normal Viewing & listening. Loud enough to get a rumble on some movies, but other than that - mostly moderate volume levels. If I had to slant the sub one way on music vs home theater, slant it towards music. I don't want it sounding lousy when enjoying music.

6. Appearance requirements. None

7. Timeframe. None

From reading forums, people seem to like/recc:
1. Dayton sub-1000
2. Dayton sub-2000
3. Bic America F-12
4. Klipsch Sub 12-HG
5. Polk PSW505
6. HTD Level Two Sub

What does everybody think? I think most of those would be enough deep rumble for me for home theater, but I don't want something horrible for music. Again, I appreciate clean sound - but probably don't have the most critical audiophile ears here.

What does everyone think?
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1. budget.- $200 ideal, up to $300/$350 possible. I could go higher, but really don't know if I would appreciate the difference.
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4. Primary uses - TV & kids movies 50%, Music 40% (background, not cricical listening / Movies to really push/enjoy system 10%

5. Listening habits.- Normal Viewing & listening. Loud enough to get a rumble on some movies, but other than that - mostly moderate volume levels. If I had to slant the sub one way on music vs home theater, slant it towards music. I don't want it sounding lousy when enjoying music.

6. Appearance requirements. None

7. Timeframe. None

What does everyone think?
Been researching a sub, and my requirements are similar to yours. Want a sufficient sub for movies, but music performance is really the critical feature.

I'm looking at subs above your price point, but one of the recommendations I received ... the NXG NX-BAS-500 is in your reach. And ... reviews I read pointed to performance that exceeds its price. In one, the reviewer said he pushed it to its limit and noted that the circuitry prevented any overdrive or distortion, surprising for a sub $500 sub. Reviewer assessed it would be great for music. Reading the description has me tempted...! I'm probably getting a Hsu VTF-1 or VTF-2 ... the VTF-1 is marked down a little for St. Patrick's day, slightly above your stated budget but from reviews of the VTF-2 and VTF-3, value and performance way beyond the price.

Modest "theater": Samsung UN40ES6150, Panasonic BDT210, Yamaha RXV775. Bose 401 mains, 301 Series III surrounds, Yamaha NS-C444 center. Incoming: Hsu VTF-2 Mk4.

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I've read reports of the NXG you referenced creating a burned smell and sounded badly afterwards. I understand this is a cheap sub forum, but buying twice won't help me.

What about the Bic Acoustech H100ii. Sounds like a step up from the F12 and closer to NXG in sound.
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I've read reports of the NXG you referenced creating a burned smell and sounded badly afterwards. I understand this is a cheap sub forum, but buying twice won't help me.

What about the Bic Acoustech H100ii. Sounds like a step up from the F12 and closer to NXG in sound.
Only one person reporting it apparently, claiming it's a widespread problem. Just because one or two people have had bad units and squawked online, does not mean that there aren't tens of thousands units that work fine and their owners don't post online about it.

Here's a calmer head responding to the "NXG catches fire" rumor.

Modest "theater": Samsung UN40ES6150, Panasonic BDT210, Yamaha RXV775. Bose 401 mains, 301 Series III surrounds, Yamaha NS-C444 center. Incoming: Hsu VTF-2 Mk4.

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Only one person reporting it apparently, claiming it's a widespread problem. Just because one or two people have had bad units and squawked online, does not mean that there aren't tens of thousands units that work fine and their owners don't post online about it.

dayton 1200 or nxg bas 500?
A few months ago, when the Dayton sub-1200 was $99 shipped, it was a great value priced sub. For that money I would recommend getting two for the person wanting a budget sub at a nice price. At their current price of $148, however, they aren't such a great value. That price puts it closer to better subs like the Bic F12, V-1220 or the Klipsch sub-12 when on sale. The NXG sub is $270, so it's really in a while other price range.

Game room> 60" LG plasma. Onkyo TX-NR509, Infinity Primus P363 fronts, P163 center, P163 rears, PSA XS30 15" dual driver sub. PS4 and XBox One. Living Room> 59" Samsung plasma. Onkyo HT-RC560, JBL Studio 180 fronts, Studio 120c center, Polk R150 sides, Polk RC60i in-wall rears, SVS PB12-NSD 12" sub. PS3 and XBox 360. Computer Room> Pioneer VSX-456 (old school), Infinity Primus P163 fronts, SVS SB12-NSD 12" sub.
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I wasn't recommending either, it was link to another thread post about the claim that NXGs had a flammability issue.

Modest "theater": Samsung UN40ES6150, Panasonic BDT210, Yamaha RXV775. Bose 401 mains, 301 Series III surrounds, Yamaha NS-C444 center. Incoming: Hsu VTF-2 Mk4.
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1. Your budget. $500-1000

2. Size requirements/limits. ... Not really applicable.. willing to go rather large or small...

3. Room dimensions... 15x20x8 rectangle, however speakers are no more than 7-8 feet from listening position and current sub is actually just a few feet from the listening position directly behind the head.

4. Primary uses. 40% Gaming (PC/HTPC with GTX 670+), 30% Music, 30% Movies/TV

5. Listening habits. I like the sub to rattle nice during movies such as the newest rambo near the end when the large bomb goes off, but moreso like to have a tight bass for music and be able to hear all the frequencies well. I don't typically crank the bass up to shatter the house and listen at what I would call 'moderate' volume levels.

6. Appearance requirements. Black, perhaps black oak preferred. Not that picky.

I actually have a LV12R ordered as I've heard great reviews about it both being tight for music but still being able to put out for movies but am wondering if I might not just go for something more powerful like the VTF-15H right away just in case... (The LV12R continues to be on backorder so I have time to change my mind) right now I'm running an Acoustech PL-200 but am not happy with the muddy/boomy sound for music and the fact that the sound output falls off significantly much below 40 hz with too much emphasis on the 50 HZ area (not tight enough and not low enough)

Do I need the extra size/power of the VTF-15H? 15 inch driver and 50 watts more power than the LV12R... any other suggestions? How about the VTF-3 MK5?

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Want advice on what sub to purchase? Please read this before posting...

I just bought the VTF-2 for a room similar in size to yours. Love it, lots of power.

I think the VTF-15 with its front-firing woofer might be overkill sitting right behind you. Do games down down lower than 25Hz? I was considering the VTF-1 and a mid-bass module later (MBM-12), but decided that the extra power and lower range of the -2 suited me. In your situation, you might consider two subs in the room for more efficiency, instead of a big brute right behind you.

You said music fidelity is important, but you have music as your lowest % usage. Um...? ... With the Hsu subs, you can reconfigure with port plugs and other settings, for games vs. movies vs. music. And ... the VTF-2 is marked down $30 at the moment, will cost less than that LV12R.

Another to consider: SVS. Free shipping, and return shipping after audition if you're unhappy.

Modest "theater": Samsung UN40ES6150, Panasonic BDT210, Yamaha RXV775. Bose 401 mains, 301 Series III surrounds, Yamaha NS-C444 center. Incoming: Hsu VTF-2 Mk4.

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