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post #331 of 338 Old 06-10-2008, 04:59 AM
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How would that compare to the quality of Leone's Once Upon A Time in the West? I consider this one of the best movies ever made.

Both have about the same quality.

The first was a low budget movie. (Fist)

The second was a bigger production, by european standards. (few)

It was when they shoot (TGTBTU) they got funding from an american company and it had the resources it needed. I would say qualitywise a few dollars more would be in the same leauge aswell.


I agree the once upon a time is a great movie. The only problem I cant wait for them to reach the excellent final.

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Another voice to add to the choir of enthusiasts angered at the onslaught of DNR and grain removal:

Film and High Definition Resolution - The impact of digital noise reduction

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Blu-ray Disc has the ability to deliver a presentation that exceeds the qualities found in the motion picture theater. It’s inexcusable to cripple the resolution of the presentation with a process that softens the image by acting like a low pass video filter. This particular example [Pan's Labyrinth] seems to be a wrongheaded attempt to remove film grain; but, unless the motion picture was shot digitally, grain is a natural part of the film experience. To remove it and adversely affect the resolution and the film-like presentation is inexcusable.

DVDfile has always fought for the best quality in disc releases for our readers. We fought for anamorphic transfers. We object to edge halos. I personally communicated with no fewer than three compressionists to better understand the causes and effects that diminish image quality. I’ve tried to stimulate change. Now, the question becomes do we have another quality issue to bring to our readers’ attention and to the studios’ attention? Is it time to draw the sword once more? Alas, it would seem to be.

I’ll be attending the Home Media Expo in Las Vegas later this month. I plan on discussing this issue with New Line representatives. If you are aware of any title from any studio that has been crippled by DNR, please let me know and I’ll speak with those studios as well.


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Another voice to add to the choir of enthusiasts angered at the onslaught of DNR and grain removal:

Film and High Definition Resolution - The impact of digital noise reduction

That was a very well written article. I suggest we send him a list of DNR'd titles and see what the studios have to say.

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Saw that the article linked to screencaps of Pans Labyrinth so I tested to see wich one my wifes liked the most.

The thing she noticed was the different aspect ratio. And I had to explain it wasnt the aspect ratio I was wondering about.

And she looked some more, only the conclude that the DNR version was the one that looked the best...

I had to explain that it was the UK version I had bought.

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Saw that the article linked to screencaps of Pans Labyrinth so I tested to see wich one my wifes liked the most.

The thing she noticed was the different aspect ratio. And I had to explain it wasnt the aspect ratio I was wondering about.

And she looked some more, only the conclude that the DNR version was the one that looked the best...

I had to explain that it was the UK version I had bought.

I think you and your wife should be happy that you are happy with DNR. In the end ,you may inherit the earth like cockroaches after the big one but the rest of us really want excellence from BD.

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I think you and your wife should be happy that you are happy with DNR. In the end ,you may inherit the earth like cockroaches after the big one but the rest of us really want excellence from BD.

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You do understand the reason I imported the UK version over the US was that it didnt had DNR?

my wife prefered the DNR version, not I.

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You do understand the reason I imported the UK version over the US was that it didnt had DNR?

my wife prefered the DNR version, not I.

No I didn't get that... sorry.

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In the end ,you may inherit the earth

I have been pleasantly surprised by how much focus the issue is starting to get. If the saber rattling gets loud enough they may yet hear it all the way up in the ivory towers. Here is hoping.
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