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Old 12-30-2010, 10:07 AM - Thread Starter
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Over the past year, the load times for newer BR titles takes longer and longer and longer and longer . . . . and I blame BD-LIVE.

I think that BD-LIVE is worthless. I'm a Blu-ray fan for one reason only: Video and Sound quality. Nothing else at the consumer level comes close. I remember a recent title (can't remember which one) that took forever to load, and when the disc menu finally appears, there was a weather bug in the upper right hand corner telling me it was nice and sunny outside my home.



OK, this is getting ridiculous!!! I only want to watch the movie, and maybe scan the extras. I don't want to play games, post in a chat room, balance my checking account, or solve the world's problems.

So, I've turned off the BD-LIVE function on my LG player, and now it nags me to turn it on everytime I try to watch a movie.

Question: does anybody care about BD-Live bloatware?

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I think most people here keep their players' connectivity turned off except for doing things like firmware updates. The consensus that BD Live is worthless is so universal that it's rarely even discussed.

But a nag screen to turn it back on? That's a new on one me, and pretty nasty IMO.

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I think most people here keep their players' connectivity turned off except for doing things like firmware updates. The consensus that BD Live is worthless is so universal that it's rarely even discussed.

But a nag screen to turn it back on? That's a new on one me, and pretty nasty IMO.
Panasonics behave the same way. The only way to disable BD live w/o the nag is to turn BD Live on and then disconnect the player from the network.
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Here's a scary thought: you load a BR disk, but are disconnected from the net. A warning box appears, saying that you must be connected to the net for the disc to play properly.

If you think this is crazy talk, you don't understand how Hollywood works.

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Here's a scary thought: you load a BR disk, but are disconnected from the net. A warning box appears, saying that you must be connected to the net for the disc to play properly.

If you think this is crazy talk, you don't understand how Hollywood works.

At times I think we are already there.
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If that ever happens to me-that's the day I say screw hollywood-btw-I, like you have no use for bd live.
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Over the past year, the load times for newer BR titles takes longer and longer and longer and longer . . . . and I blame BD-LIVE.

I think that BD-LIVE is worthless. I'm a Blu-ray fan for one reason only: Video and Sound quality. Nothing else at the consumer level comes close. I remember a recent title (can't remember which one) that took forever to load, and when the disc menu finally appears, there was a weather bug in the upper right hand corner telling me it was nice and sunny outside my home.



OK, this is getting ridiculous!!! I only want to watch the movie, and maybe scan the extras. I don't want to play games, post in a chat room, balance my checking account, or solve the world's problems.

So, I've turned off the BD-LIVE function on my LG player, and now it nags me to turn it on everytime I try to watch a movie.

Question: does anybody care about BD-Live bloatware?

I've looked at BD live once or twice and got a feel for how stupid and time consuming the service is..i agree with you 100% if it were up to me I would rip that service out completely and focus on just the movie..maybe a second disc for special features (depending on the film can be included in the bluray package)..and that second disc could be a DVD in standard definition for all I care,I rarely watch special features I gotta admit..unless im waiting for the wife to join me ill put a special feature on to kill time..lately I've been buying "single disc" edition blurays if they are available..'cuz I don't want to deal with all that other cr@p!..more "single disc" editions should be made with one bluray disc ..just the movie no added content period!
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Never used BD-Live, and I never will.

It makes me furious how long a commerical BD takes to get playing. I can take the same disc, make a Movie-only copy using whatever software and burn it to BD-R and the movie plays practically instantly in my player. It's all the other stupid crap thats crammed onto discs thats crippling Blu-ray.
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I used BD live to see movie trailers. Of course I can do the same thing with online services like VUDU.
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Nope. Always hit that 'no' option for making an internet connection....

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I'm much more annoyed by the 5+ previews I have to manually fast forward through...
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Worthless. Useless. Never use it. Never will. Pure and utter fail.
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I used BD live to see movie trailers. Of course I can do the same thing with online services like VUDU.

Why? With all of the freaking forced trailers on every BD anyway, what's the point?

I only connect eithernet to my player, when I'm checking for a firmware update. Otherwise, it stays disconnected. I have the Oppo BDP-83SE, and it does not nag me to turn on BD-Live.

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Worthless. Useless. Never use it. Never will. Pure and utter fail.

Ditto.

I love Bluray picture. I love Bluray sound. I hate everything else about it.

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Ditto.

I love Bluray picture. I love Bluray sound. I hate everything else about it.

+1. Although I don't really notice a huge difference in sound (I have bad ears, apparently).

And don't get me started on the stripped down rental versions.
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Have never used BD Live and never will.

And the load times are really getting stupid.

And there are many other things that are completely unacceptable about the state of BD and HT. I'm getting close to just dropping out.

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And now all we hear about is stupid 3D. My eyeball to meat-computer firmware is all messed up and 3d doesn't work for me anyway.

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That is why I take measures to enjoy media that I purchase in a manner of my choosing. HTPC with a boatload of storage FTW.

I get a kick every time I see a BR labeled with 'Includes Digital Copy'. Ya, thanks for that. Like Hollywood execs are my best bro and doing me a huge favor. I enjoy the fact I only purchase used titles knowing that none of my $$ goes directly to the industry.

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Don´t Hollywood realise how much hatred there is for this BD-Live ********?
It´s time to bring it out on the backyard and put a bullet through it´s head.
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While I don't like longer load times, when done right, BD-Live has been pretty cool. The live commentaries on Harry Potter and Sherlock Holmes were pretty cool, and the "do-it-yourself" commentaries on Dark Knight were cool.

When BD-Live is used for crap, of course it's crap. When done right, it has the potential to be pretty cool.
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While I don't like longer load times, when done right, BD-Live has been pretty cool. The live commentaries on Harry Potter and Sherlock Holmes were pretty cool, and the "do-it-yourself" commentaries on Dark Knight were cool.

When BD-Live is used for crap, of course it's crap. When done right, it has the potential to be pretty cool.

Possibly. But why don't they just let you just use it when you want it, as opposed to connecting at startup? There are some movies that take so long to load that I assumed they were damaged, so I take them out, clean them and try again.

I've a PS3 and it always asks you to turn BD-LIVE on if you turn it off.
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I've a PS3 and it always asks you to turn BD-LIVE on if you turn it off.

Yes, that is super annoying....on the PS3 "internet enabled content" can only be set to "on" or "prompt"

WTF can't I just turn it off? I don't need to be asked everytime!
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Let's list the many threads and hundreds of posts here wherein members went berserk complaining that Mfrs had bloody well better upgrade their players' firmware to be able to do this great new "BD Live" feature that was introduced, and they were missing out on! We should find some of those guys and see how they feel about this today...
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Don´t Hollywood realise how much hatred there is for this BD-Live ********?
It´s time to bring it out on the backyard and put a bullet through it´s head.

Almost all studios have abandoned doing anything substantial with BD-Live at this point. It was always more a marketing bulletin point than anything else, that the studios thought consumers desperately needed to convince them to upgrade from DVD. That line of thinking was obviously wrong, as I doubt BD-Live has ever sold one extra unit on its own.

What needs to be killed now is the continuing use of BD-Java when it is completely unnecessary, so we can get back marker points without having to rely on the authoring firm.
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I've never used it except for 1 time when I bought my very first Blu-ray player...I wanted to test the BD-Live feature...was even more annoying because I needed to register with WB and log in etc...all that to find that there was nothing I was interested in watching

are there any movies that put BD-Live to good use?
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