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According to the digitalbits.com, Andy Parsons confirmed the BDA is going to look at the possibility of a BD-4K disc.

I really believe if 4K and quality will go together that the only real option is a physical format based system. Streaming 4K will either be limited in quality due to trying to squeeze it into the pipe and/or limited due the number of homes that have connections that can support it.

The reality is that just because Netflix/Vudu/Hulu/etc flag the content as HD/4K/etc doesn't mean that you are really getting all the video signal.

If it's a download model, how much space is someone going to need to store a large film library in 4K? 100TB or more? Sure HDDs get bigger but you still have an issue if a drive fails or something corrupts the drive. At least with a physical format if something goes wrong it is usually a disc or two that fail which doesn't render your entire collection unusable.

Now my main concern is if the BDA is going to do it right. Remember when the DVD Alliance tried to convince us a DVD9 with newer codecs would be sufficient for HD? That thankfully quickly changed due to competition. Instead the battle between the formats ended up giving us a disc that was truly intended for HD content.

So the BDA needs to look beyond the 50GB disc. They need to look at the BD-XL data disc variant along with newer codecs. If they try to cheap out and just meet what can be done over streaming/downloading then the product might be dead before it gets to market.

They have time to do it right. The first HDTVs went on sale in the late 1990s, but they weren't affordable for most until the mid 00s and that's when we got the HD formats. 4K sets are going to be in the 'rich only' club for several years. So the BDA has time to come up with a format to deliver the best 4K experience.

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On a side note, remember the glory days of EDTV:) Yeah I think the BDA is waiting for h.265 HEVC to get finalized, it did get stage one approval a few days ago by ITU & MPEG
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Watch as Sony(The mastermind of bluray!) tries to stunts the growth of bluray 4k in an attempt to get their hard drive 4k player (I think it will be) into the hands of 4k display owners lol.

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Watch as Sony(The mastermind of bluray!) tries to stunts the growth of bluray 4k in an attempt to get their hard drive 4k player (I think it will be) into the hands of 4k display owners lol.

Do you harbor a grudge over how they tried to slow down HD DVD? Fact is that BD was being developed long before HD DVD was under consideration. The DVD group initially thought they could foist off a DVD9 with highly compressed H.264 video. Blu-ray on the other hand thought 25GB of MPEG2 would work. Thankfully competition gave us a true HD format. Maybe if Toshiba had their sh!t together they could hint at a true 4K DVD upgrade and competition between the two would give us the best format in the end. I don't care if it's a Sony or Toshiba solution or someone else's.

The HDD solution is going to have to be a short-term band-aid. Real 4K content is a space hog and expecting even a networked HDD solution to be able to satisfy the needs of collectors is half baked. I don't like the idea of movies randomly showing up or disappearing off my server. I like having a collection I can have control over.

I have near 500 BD disc even figuring if I only backed-up the movie portion of the disc 30-35GB I would need 15TB of HDD space. Sure drives get bigger, but drives also fail. I don't want my collection on a system that could be wiped out by a simple hardware failure. At least with a physical format, if something fails it won't wipeout my entire collection.

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Do you harbor a grudge over how they tried to slow down HD DVD? Fact is that BD was being developed long before HD DVD was under consideration. The DVD group initially thought they could foist off a DVD9 with highly compressed H.264 video. Blu-ray on the other hand thought 25GB of MPEG2 would work. Thankfully competition gave us a true HD format. Maybe if Toshiba had their sh!t together they could hint at a true 4K DVD upgrade and competition between the two would give us the best format in the end. I don't care if it's a Sony or Toshiba solution or someone else's.

The HDD solution is going to have to be a short-term band-aid. Real 4K content is a space hog and expecting even a networked HDD solution to be able to satisfy the needs of collectors is half baked. I don't like the idea of movies randomly showing up or disappearing off my server. I like having a collection I can have control over.

I have near 500 BD disc even figuring if I only backed-up the movie portion of the disc 30-35GB I would need 15TB of HDD space. Sure drives get bigger, but drives also fail. I don't want my collection on a system that could be wiped out by a simple hardware failure. At least with a physical format, if something fails it won't wipeout my entire collection.

Naw naw I was just kidding. I would find it funny if Sony tried to stunt the growth of the format they created and pushed so hard for in favor of a possible "hard drive based 4k player".

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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