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Old 03-12-2014, 10:38 PM - Thread Starter
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Blu-ray is now the industry's voice and clearly the iron fist blocking user freedom to enjoy personal-use reformatting. We all have stories about wanting to use our paid-for Blu-ray discs on a more convenient media player (example an Android tablet or phone in my case).

The industry wants me to pay for the Blu-ray disc, pay again to watch on my tablet and again to watch on my phone and if I want to watch again a Month later, pay them another time.

Clearly the industry is out of control. The most powerful tool we have is our purchasing power. If we all picked a week and simply refused to buy any Blu-ray product the industry would feel that impact.

If we all refused to buy any Blu-ray product the first week of every Month until the industry loosened the personal-use reformatting legal constraints, it would not take long for things to change,

We have the power to fix this, We just don't know it. Personally as long as DVDs are still being sold I am avoiding the Blu-ray discs just for that reason. I can easily make reformatted MP4s that work on Android tablets and the quality is perfectly acceptable.
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I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to watch a movie on a phone. Or a tablet.

I like watching movies projected on my wall on a screen big enough that I can invite 4 or 5 friends over. I also like to listen in lossless 7.1 surround sound. You can't do that on a phone. Or a tablet.

You call phones and tablets "convenient"? I think they completely diminish a film. If all you are interested in is finding out what happens in a film, go for it I suppose. just count me out.
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Yes, I can transfer my movies to another media,

but there is a systematic removal of all products that would allow reformatting. U.S. Judges have decided they have the power to shutdown international websites, to censor what can be downloaded and control the websites we in the United States can visit.

This level of censorship is frightening to me. I almost feel like a citizen of a third World country listening to a Radio Free Europe broadcast on my banned and hidden radio.

By just not buying Blu-ray products for the first week of each Month we could change the overly restrictive Blu-ray licensing.

It is not likely we can change the minds of egotistical judges that seem to assume way more power than our Constitution every allowed them but the wallets of the entertainment industry which drives these restrictions is a real way to get these changes.
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Kilgore, surely you have an open mind enough to understand there are videophiles that only appreciate the very best and I indeed would prefer watching in those conditions.

You must also realize that many cannot afford that level of equipment and the luxury of the time in a home theatre away from our daily schedules.

With my tablet, a fertile imagination, I can enjoy many more movies than previously possible in waiting rooms, on breaks, and just relaxing in almost any environment. I work hard and enjoy my "Lo-Fi" videos.
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Don't most Blu-ray released provide a digital copy/Ultra-violet these days for viewing your purchases on the web, streamed to your phone/tablet/PC?

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Don't most Blu-ray released provide a digital copy/Ultra-violet these days for viewing your purchases on the web, streamed to your phone/tablet/PC?
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Don't most Blu-ray released provide a digital copy/Ultra-violet these days for viewing your purchases on the web, streamed to your phone/tablet/PC?

Some do, some don't. The entire Criterion collection, for example. Also some studios don't take part, doing their own version (Disney) and some platforms (Apple iTunes).

The Ultra violet product is not a storage mechanism, but a license key manager. Once you register it, it allows you to stream the content. That content lives elsewhere.

Some issues:
  1. You don't have a local copy that you control. Even ultra violet doesn't. If the server holding it goes away (the stream partner is bankrupt), you lose the movie.
  2. Major streaming providers don't take part in it. Amazon, iTunes, XBox instant video.
  3. Most movies are in standard definition. Many devices can handle high definition.
  4. Depending on the streaming partner, you may not be able to see all of your collection on the same device.

Just like with disks (my preference), I'd rather own a copy of my disk on my system and view that remotely than rely on the kindness of the cloud lords.
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  1. You don't have a local copy that you control. Even ultra violet doesn't. If the server holding it goes away (the stream partner is bankrupt), you lose the movie.

Actually you do on some UV titles. For example, VUDU has an app that will allow you to download a movie to your computer. The app is really lame, it does not allow you to pick a location (drive, folder) for the downloaded file, the playback is awful and you have only 2 options in the app, watch or delete. Even more strange is it took > 2-1/2 hours to download a 90 min. movie, that same movie would play in HDX in real time. Last time I looked you had to use the UV site that was used to register the title in order to download it. UV has nowhere near the functionality their site implies. IMO, just one big CF.
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