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Amir,

since the European Toshiba HD-E1 and HD-XE-1 have been officially announced with full specs and features are you in a position to answer questions about these G2 designs?

Any comments about the following would be very much appreciated:

1) 1080p output with the HD-XE1. Is the output 60p or 24p/48p? Is it being realized with a "tricky" solution like Samsung (decoding in 1080i, deinterlacing and output for 1080p) or does it provide REAL 1080p decoding?

2) "Deep Color" support. Can you provide some insights if the integrated decoder really upsamples the VC-1/AVC/Mpeg2 stream to 30-bit and 36-bit color depths (4:4:4 RGB or YCbCr)?

On another subject:

3) Does MS "supervise"/quality check the European HD-DVD VC-1 (Studio Canal) releases like you do with the US releases? Would you say we can expect this first Studio Canal VC-1 encodings to be on par with the high quality we are used to over here in the US? Have you seen (some of) them personally yet? Any comments?

Thank very much for your time! :)
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Any comments on this guys?

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Evening Cjplay,
There have been a few rumors that 'The Matrix' won't be on store shelves this year, at best sometime next year.Now i know you can't give a day/date as such but can you hint at all if its going to be released in 06 or 07?
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Doubtful for '06 since none of the rumor mills have picked up on it. I can't publicly confirm WHV's plans, though, as I'm NDA-bound.

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Doubtful for '06 since none of the rumor mills have picked up on it. I can't publicly confirm WHV's plans, though, as I'm NDA-bound.

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Yes thx Cj.
I'v just seen the post in another section mention that the HD website(thelookandsoundofperfect) has taken of a whole bunch of titles, Matrix being one of them sadly.
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Hello insiders!

First off, thanks for your input to this thread - definitely the best thread at AVS at this time. Special thanks to Talk, Amir, CjPlay, Kjack for all the great info.

Now to my question. BD insiders, what is the significance of Sun joining the board for BDA? How will this help the BDA and ultimately us as the end users?

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Amir,

since the European Toshiba HD-E1 and HD-XE-1 have been officially announced with full specs and features are you in a position to answer questions about these G2 designs?
Unfortunate not. I might leak things as time goes by though :).

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3) Does MS "supervise"/quality check the European HD-DVD VC-1 (Studio Canal) releases like you do with the US releases? Would you say we can expect this first Studio Canal VC-1 encodings to be on par with the high quality we are used to over here in the US? Have you seen (some of) them personally yet? Any comments?
I think "supervise" is too strong of a word for the kind of work that we do on either side of the ocean :). But yes, we take a strong interest and to the extent the content owner and post house let us, we do our best to complain about things that don't seem right to us. On Studio Canal, I am at IFA so got to see some of the encodes myself and they look very good. But this was a preview on a laptop so I can't be sure but we will have access to final encodes in Redmond and can do a better evaluation. One of the movies was fairly old for example yet it was very clean and so was the encode.

Overall, StudioCanal has a reputation for spending a lot of money up front to get/create better quality masters. So this is good. As is the chat I had with both the post house and StudioCanal execs to put quality first. They are in agreement.

So let's see how it goes...

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Amir,

Would you give us your IFA summary upon return? :)
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Amir,

Would you give us your IFA summary upon return? :)
Sure. Assuming I actually get a chance to see the show rather than stay in meeting rooms all day :).

I did attend the Toshiba press conference and had the priviledge of speaking at the event. I must say, the support from the major studios, StudioCanal and independents was most impressive. HD in Europe was a dead business until recently. To see such a strong push by content owners and a turn around in consumer interests is quite refreshing.

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On a related note, have you seen these encodings (assuming encoding has started)?
I haven't, but I hope to in the next few weeks. For what it's worth and in the meantime Ridley Scott, director of "Kingdom of Heaven", was quoted by Video Business as saying "I reviewed [the Blu-ray version] … and I was astounded. It was like looking through a window of clarity".

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First off, where'd you get THAT info? Sounds like an interesting read!
I got it here: http://www.highdefdigest.com/pressre...raylaunch.html


THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN: One of the industry's most advanced BD releases, THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN is authored in BD-J with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and AVC (MPEG 4 compression) and includes commentaries by the cast and crew, a unique search index which allows the viewer to sort scenes from the movie into 72 categories ranging from actor (e.g., Shane West, Sean Connery) to character (e.g., Allan Quarterman, Agent Tom Sawyer) to locations (e.g., Paris, Venice), among others. Additional features include an interactive first person shooter game boasting 12 unique play modes, up to 99 bookmarks, an animated pop-up trivia track, and HD trailers of upcoming BD releases.

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A search "utility" of a disc is really about metadata and providing said data to any code that needs it. I'd write it to the ACA buffer to make it more accessible in HD DVD land. Actor "A" appears at timcode XX:XX:XX:XX or frame #14534 would be the pseudo-code necessary to do that function. If Javascript can do it on the most basic level, then iHD can do it because that's really the code base of iHD (simplifying, I know).
Yeah this part I figured was about metadata and therefore possible with either platform.

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This "Reshuffling" to really appear useful would have to be seamless or at least pause the playback, allow for the laser to move, then play the new content. This seamlessness of laser movement is exactly what happens in Branching for DVD (not angles which is a video ES muxing trick). As to how it works for this title and Fox in general, I don't know and my interest is piqued to find out. Fox did a lot of the BD-J testing, btw, and it's good to see they're making good on those demos. But for now, I'd prefer to see something that iHD can't do. Is there anything on there, or any other disc being released, that fits this bill? If so, is it useful to you? And if it is, then BD-J has a niche and can build on that niche... Of course a search for Connery may have you watching the whole movie while a search for Pita Wilson might not. ;)
I agree this is a niche little extra but interesting to see nonetheless, and I wasn't sure how it would seamlessly "reshuffle". Of course it makes no claim of seamless, etc.

Any comments about the FPS game? Clearly that has to be some basic Java game, no?
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... a unique search index which allows the viewer to sort scenes from the movie into 72 categories ranging from actor (e.g., Shane West, Sean Connery) to character (e.g., Allan Quarterman, Agent Tom Sawyer) to locations (e.g., Paris, Venice), among others.
While some people won't want to mention it, I'm guessing that searches for "nude" that would just show nude scenes would be popular for certain movies. Maybe Talk could tell us if this is likely to be an option on future disks. :)

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LOL.

"We, the consumers demand more metadata!"

Someone should point this capability out to the self-appointed Guardians of Morality here in the States... purely so they can make their ClearPlay systems work better at skipping over those trashy scenes.

Meanwhile, those of us with CellarPlay will play only the trashy scenes.

(What? You didn't know Wild Things had a runtime of only seven and a half minutes?)

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I've heard from more reputable sources that the BD-J spec is like virtualizing an OS inside of a player where iHD would just issue commands to the lower layer of the existing OS. Is that pretty much the gist of it?
Kind of. BD-J is based on Java Micro Edition Personal Basis Profile, which provides a very complete API set with regards to graphics, network support and other I/O. In effect you have the same range of options in writing code which you have when using C or C++ natively to an OS, with the Java VM acting as the OS. iHD (now known as HDi) is more like a browser with some extra stuff (i.e. SMIL) thrown in. While the ECMAScript component of a browser gives you some general programming capabilities, it's a far more constrained set of API's, and generally performs far more slowly due to the highly abstracted nature of scripting.

To apply this discussion to the Fox features discussed, I you probably could implement the concept of what Fox is doing in HDi, but it's less clear to me to what extent you could take it. For instance, if the amount of metadata available to index all the scenes, actors, quotes, props, etc. is sufficiently large to require a database to manage it, it's unlikely you could author a database in ECMAScript sufficiently performant to be acceptable. Now, HDi might have some built-in database API's, but if not it's unlikely you could implement them on your own. Writing database functions in Java is well-known and has been implemented in very constrained environments (tens of kilobytes of memory) on mobile phones. Grabbing a library of Java routines to do this would be fairly trivial for the content developer, and would allow far more flexibility in what the consumer is offered.

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However, wouldn't that make iHD lighter-weight to run?
It's a matter of scale. An "old-school" browser, i.e. supporting only HTML 3.2 and ECMAscript, can be fairly lightweight (a few hundred kilobytes). A "modern" browser, supporting HTML 4.0, ECMAscript and CSS, generally requires a more than a megabyte and a CPU running at 200+MHz, which is comparable to the requirements of a Java ME stack for TV. HDi adds additional multimedia features (i.e. SMIL) and must support 1920x1080 graphics, so now you're definitely out of the "lightweight" category, and in my opinion will have memory and CPU requirements no less than those required by BD-J. In addition, Intel and others have created CPU cores which run Java code natively on the CPU, in effect making Java code native. As Java becomes more prevalent in the TV space due to BD-J, OCAP, and MHP I'm starting to hear of plans by the major silicon vendors to include a Java core in future SoC designs targeting these markets. It's unlikely HDi could be similarly accelerated in hardware.

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Does BD-J virtualize (maybe encapsulate away from the player's user layer of the OS is a better phrasing?) the whole movie or just interact with it like another stream of incoming data/metadata?
I'm not sure I fully understand your question, but I'd say more like the second. The movie is an asset which can be controlled (pause, fast forward/rewind, scale, jump to a spot, etc.). If you want to write a first-person shooter to fly alongside Anakin in Star Wars you need to create the appropriate metadata so that the game knows if an enemy spacecraft is on the screen at the exact moment when your heavy ion cannon activates.

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BD insiders, what is the significance of Sun joining the board for BDA? How will this help the BDA and ultimately us as the end users?
I imagine it will be helpful in ensuring that BD-J is providing the content features which consumers want, in leveraging the large Java developer community to help create interesting content, and in helping coordinate the Blu-ray content community with the other related Java content ecosystems (OCAP and MHP for cable and broadcast TV, mobile phones), which could be useful, for instance, when a cable operator wants to offer Blu-ray BD-J content via video on demand, or if a studio wants to bundle a new BD title release with related content for your mobile phone.

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While some people won't want to mention it, I'm guessing that searches for "nude" that would just show nude scenes would be popular for certain movies. Maybe Talk could tell us if this is likely to be an option on future disks.
Certainly suggests some interesting new features for porn titles! Not that I'd know what the "old" features are... :rolleyes:

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Certainly suggests some interesting new features for porn titles! Not that I'd know what the "old" features are... :rolleyes:
Searching for "nude" in porn titles might be of limited usefulness.

Anyway, I thought that porn studios were having trouble finding anyone willing to master pr0n in BD, much less provide fancy searches. Has this problem been resolved?

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Talk, here's a question framed as a statement with some stated bias;

How do you see BR using tech to dealing / overcoming some of it's non-tech baggage. I started out on the BR side . . . . now I feel disappointed. To wit;

1 - SONY . . . . . . . and let's be blunt when we talk of BR we talk of Sony.
Maybe the public face and genesis of Blu-ray, but I can assure you that Panasonic, Pioneer, Fox, and others are taking equally committed positions in terms of actually "doing the work" to bring it to market.
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Sony has, ah, issues with its tendency towards pushing the start of proprietary formats and then abandoning them [ I know cuz I have most of them] ie Mini Disc, Hi 8, Digital 8, SACD [ probably ] and that other Movies for Game Stations format [ UMD I think. ]

This tendency to start NEW tech before previous tech is maxed out
and the tendency to insist on "owning all the marbles or we won't play" makes me, as a buyer, extremely wary.
You want to bring the new tech on as the old tech is peaking, not when it's dead. That way early adopters get the next greatest thing, while everyone else continues with the old technology until the new stuff has reached a price point they are comfortable with.

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2 - The stated priority of pushing BR as a computer storage medium first and a movie playback medium second.

I think I speak for many when I say "we don't care" about the computer storage priority as separate from movie delivery especially if it retards the development of TOP QUALITY, FULL FEATURED movie delivery.
I'm not sure where you have seen this "stated priority". Yes, Blu-ray started out as a recordable format (for video, not computer storage), but that in no way diminishes it's value as a movie format. Further, the widespread adoption of Blu-ray media for computer storage will only help push down equipment and media prices, which is a good thing for everyone.

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3 - Stressing development of recordable BR at the BEGINNING to satisfy the Japanese market which seems to demand recordable FIRST.

Again, if I may presumptuously speak for the many; "we don't care" what the Japanese market wants especially if it delays the roll out of TOP QUALITY, FULL FEATURED movie delivery HERE.
Have you noticed where most of the tier one CE vendors are based? Without the Japanese market I doubt we'd have most of the A/V goodies we enjoy. Further, I don't think Blu-ray "stressed development of recordable", that's simply how it evolved. Also it's proven easier to burn BD media than to manufacture BD-ROM, so recordable was feasible to bring to market sooner. Besides, HD-DVD requires much less in the way of new, unproven technology (since it's based on the same basic physical structure as DVD), but only beat BD-ROM to market by a few months. I don't see any way that BD-ROM could have been sped up by skipping recordable.

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4 - Stressing and WAITING for implementation of BR within PS3 INITIALLY and the attitude that PS3 will "make" BR.

Again, the Royal We "does not care" about game consoles . . .
at the expense of TOP QUALITY, FULL FEATURED movie delivery . . NOW.
Whether or not you have any interest in gaming, the PS3 is a big reason Blu-ray has the vendor and studio support it does. As a guaranteed delivery vehicle of millions of potential Blu-ray movie consumers, the potential market is impossible to ignore. The benefit to you, the non-gaming consumer, is you get more studio support and lower standalone player prices as a side-effect.

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5 - and last but certainly not least, how does BR overcome the
perception that they started with a MPEG-2 IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MOVIES attitude rather than a LET's MAKE THIS REALLY GOOD FOR MOVIES attitude.
It's been repeated here many times that MPEG-2 is good enough, given enough storage and a skilled encoding job. I think the studios who released the first batch of titles probably heard loud and clear that the picture quality offered wasn't sufficient to please their target audience. I'll be very surprised if PQ is a significant issue going forward, especially now that advanced codec support is imminent.

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All of the stated BR goals I listed are noble and reasonable . . . . but not all at once and certainly not one at the expense of the other and DEFINITELY not if you're trying to sell ME that $ 1000 to $1500 movie player FIRST that is not FULL QUALITY and FULL FEATURED.
There is currently one player available and early titles from three studios. Blu-ray has been released for barely two months; six more players and twice the number of studios will be releasing product in the next three months. If you're still unimpressed come November/December then I wouldn't blame you for walking away from Blu-ray.

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Searching for "nude" in porn titles might be of limited usefulness.
I was thinking of somewhat saucier search terms than "nude", but this probably isn't the forum for providing examples!
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Anyway, I thought that porn studios were having trouble finding anyone willing to master pr0n in BD, much less provide fancy searches. Has this problem been resolved?
As BD mastering equipment becomes more generally available there will be many more options for having titles produced. With the amount of revenue attributable to pr0n it's unthinkable that it won't be available in due time.

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Amir I understand that manufacturers have reported a shortage of Blue Diodes that are required for both HD DVD and Blu-Ray players. Sony has gone so far as to cut back in the number of PS3's (from 6 million to 3m) and told other Blu-Ray vendors that they are going to have to wait until the 1st quarter in 2007 for the Blue Diodes supply to catch up to demand.

Is this in any way going to affect Microsoft having enough HD DVD addon players for the Xbox 360 during Xmas? With Xbox 360 having reached the 5 million mark in sales and forecasting an additional 5 million by end of year I have not seen any reports that this would affect the number of HD DVD addons available. Now MS may be OK if they projected 5% of the 10m Xbox users (500,00 HD DVD) but on the other hand I'm sure alot of existing and new owners are going to want to buy the $199 addon so that they can view HD DVD movies, which in my projected estimate would be more like 25% to 40% (2.5 - 4 million HD DVD players). Did MS plan for this level of sales and did they already get enough Blue Diodes to meet the demand or are we going to see a shortage of HD DVD addon players this XMAS?

In addition is this affecting Toshiba as well or did Microsoft and Toshiba plan together the number of Blue Diodes they needed and put an order in early? I plan to buy the HD DVD addon when it comes out but want to understand if I need to place an order prior to availablility to ensure I get one. Last year I lined up outside from midnight to 8:00 to get my Xbox 360. :D

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The “talk†(:)) about BD-J and iHD here doesn’t seem to be any different from the million other exchanges Talk and I have had on this topic. So unless someone sees something new here which needs addressing, I will just make a couple of points and let it go.

To start, anyone who thinks they need a database to hold 76 search terms, should probably go back to programming class :). I don’t understand enough about the Fox scenario to say whether it is a trivial example or something fancier. Certainly the search scenario is easy to implement. In Bourne Supremacy demos at CES, we showed how iHD could do real-time look up on actors as they appeared in the movies and show pop up text talking about who they are, what they are don’t, etc. So if we can do this, what Fox is describing is even easier to do.

As for games, we prototyped a racing game with real-time video running under it at DVD Forum last year to show the power of iHD. And if someone has noticed, there are USB ports on the Toshiba to attach controllers and such should these things become commonplace.

At the end of the day, I would look at how fast different studios are producing iHD features and how quickly they are moving up the learning curve to get a good feel for the technology. And how mandatory capabilities in every player lets them do so with ease. The patchwork of capabilities in BD players with some supporting certain features while others not, will be interesting to watch.

Having interactivity primarily on PS3 with BD-Live is bizarre to me personally as one could target that device with its native capabilities which would blow away anything BD-J or iHD could do. So it is very strange to me that PS3 is talked about as the place where BD comes to “life.†More people are going to be laughing at the quality of the Fox game on that platform, than praising it.

Before people want a game on these platforms, they want to see something that really fulfils the value-add to the movie. IME in HD DVD is making good headway here. There is more to be done for sure and a lot more consumer learning to go with it. But it is a good start. Duplicating what a PC and game machine could do in its sleep, is an odd priority to have at this point in the development cycle of the format. But this is just my opinion.

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Amir I understand that manufacturers have reported a shortage of Blue Diodes that are required for both HD DVD and Blu-Ray players. Sony has gone so far as to cut back in the number of PS3's (from 6 million to 3m) and told other Blu-Ray vendors that they are going to have to wait until the 1st quarter in 2007 for the Blue Diodes supply to catch up to demand.

Is this in any way going to affect Microsoft having enough HD DVD addon players for the Xbox 360 during Xmas?
I can't make specific comments here. Suffice to say, our visibility into parts situation is much deeper than the press, and certainly one of the key things we look at when we design new hardware.

At the same time, we can see the high risk that Sony is taking by putting a BD drive in every game machine.

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Did MS plan for this level of sales and did they already get enough Blue Diodes to meet the demand or are we going to see a shortage of HD DVD addon players this XMAS?
I think it is fair to say that the demand for the add-on on 360 for HD DVD add-on is pleasantly high.

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In addition is this affecting Toshiba as well or did Microsoft and Toshiba plan together the number of Blue Diodes they needed and put an order in early? I plan to buy the HD DVD addon when it comes out but want to understand if I need to place an order prior to availability to ensure I get one. Last year I lined up outside from midnight to 8:00 to get my Xbox 360. :D
I have always said however that the only high volume blue optical players will be that of Toshiba, Xbox 360 and PS3. Other companies will surely be hurt, especially if they are in BD camp with other parts getting funneled into PS3. Even replication side of the house is going to feel the crunch as the volume shifts toward that platform.

But to your specific question, yes, I expect the product to be in high demand and not sit around the shelf at all. So if you really must have this product, I would most definitely get my order in good and early :).

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Thanks Amir for your insight on how well the HD DVD add-on will do. I agree its going to be very high on the list of anyone who owns the Xbox 360. Now would be the time to jump into the the HD movie war and enjoy HD movies for a low price of $199. I will pre-order the HD DVD add-on to ensure I don't get left outside again.

What you see is what you get. HD DVD is spectacular, early adopters will freak out, every Tuesday will feel like Xmas. The best film-based audio and video I've yet experienced in my home theater.
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Any comments about the FPS game? Clearly that has to be some basic Java game, no?
Yes. I've heard that iHD can do games as well, but I'm unaware of the interactivity levels it can reach. Perhaps Kevin from MS can enlighten us, Amir?

Edit: Read the long post. Talk put in some specific notes of technology that were very interesting and informative to me and those like me. Is there any thread on this forum we should read that presents the info about iHD/HDi in a similar fashion? Start with "Is it called iHD or not?"

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Wow... That was a cool read. Thanks for the info!

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You answered it, though. At least you don't have to compile the whole movie!

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Yes I have to say the info just provided in the last few posts from insiders has been really interesting. So far it sounds like nothing about the interactive features from either camp blows the other away.
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So far it sounds like nothing about the interactive features from either camp blows the other away
Well, it'll be a couple years before people really get an idea of what they can & can't do and how to do it best.

Compare a DVD from this time in 1997 and let's say 1999-2000 to get an idea what I'm talking about.

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Amir,

As Microsoft is said to be working with Studio Canal or their post house, can you comment on the reasoning behind their choice of HD Master Audio over TrueHD in their inital releases, considering that the Toshiba currently supports TrueHD?

Also, add another vote for HD DVD add-on support in XP / Vista, maybe even Linux :D


Thanks in advance...

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Hi Amir
Why not deal a knock out blow to the whole how many PS3s are going to be out and so BD will win discussion once and for all

Take the add on HD DVD drive for Xbox. price it a 199, give it a usb2/firewire connection, and make it work with any Vista pc

Then bundle in with Vista a coupon program where depending on the level of Vista you buy
you get 1/2/3 or 4 HD dvd's of your choice

Then instead of this endless how many thousands of PS3's are Sony going to sell to Gamers who are going to buy BD movies, it is how many millions of Vista pc users are going to buy a HD DVD drive to play movies and how many Millions of Vista buyers are going to by HD DVD's to play on their Vista PC or their HD DVD player.

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Amir,

Warner, Paramount and Universal just announced some HD-DVD titles in Europe. Would it be a safe assumption to say that they'll probably simply reuse the US VC-1 encoding - since the announced titles are some of the same which are already available in the US?

How big/small is the chance that Warner used a new non-bobbed real 1080p master for the European Lethal Weapen release? :)

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