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Homeland Security? Give me a break
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Why don't they write a positive law that mandates managed copy use, then tack penalties on that? Just amazing what power groups hope to get from legislators.
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Attempted' copyright infringement coming soon?

Wow ... this is freaking unbeleivable. Has the entire congress and the executive been sold over to Hollywood ?
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Attempted' copyright infringement coming soon?



News.com

This is hilarious and suicidal at the same time. If it ever passes - I highly doubt it -, other countries will openly break with this completely lunatic US stance and re-adjust their already ambiguous attitude toward policing US interests in their own country.
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Homeland Security? Give me a break

Exatcly. OTOH can anyone tell me why should *any* Dept (let alone DHS) spend any time and effort on my tax dollars working for RIAA/MPAA parasites?
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Exatcly. OTOH can anyone tell me why should *any* Dept (let alone DHS) spend any time and effort on my tax dollars working for RIAA/MPAA parasites?

Because the parasites have bought the congress & the administration ?

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As an interesting aside, I notice the term "Banana Farmer" is starting to appear around the web at various places. I believe AVS (and Alan Greenspan) gets credit for this since it likely originated above in this thread in my post #319

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Why don't they write a positive law that mandates managed copy use, then tack penalties on that? Just amazing what power groups hope to get from legislators.

Because the AG and dubya are Communists! They like spying on everyone and since congress has put the brakes on them, they need a law they can hide behind.
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Wow ... this is freaking unbeleivable. Has the entire congress and the executive been sold over to Hollywood ?

You got it. Congress is the most corrupt organization in America! First came spying on United States Citizens without due process, then the bridge to "Nowhere", now Hollywood comes out of the crack in the wall (along with the **** roaches) with a bag full of money to criminalize everyone. My favorite part is that our government actually believe that it is okay to criminalize everyone.
Remember:

Innocent until proven guilty?

Now its:
Guilty until proven innocent!
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We need serious campaign finance reform with more transparency into government actions.

If a politician is bought and paid for then he should have to admit it. Any hidden transaction should carry huge penalties. Close the loopholes.

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Pirates Already Cracked

Didn't take them too long this time, did it?

Beer. So much more than just a breakfast drink!
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Thanks God, let me add - the more stuff being compromised the better because the sooner this whole nightmare will go away, together with bloodsucking RIAA/MPAA parasites.
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The processing key of the latest AACS update has been discovered (go to doom9 for more).
Expect C&D letters to start flying again (just like it happened the first time).

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Should we change the thread title to 'AACS cracked beyond repair'?

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Should we change the thread title to 'AACS cracked beyond repair'?

or "one down, one to go"

all that's left is BD+ and Hi Def media will become just as easy as DVD has become to crack. Fox suck my dic.....tionary
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The processing key of the latest AACS update has been discovered (go to doom9 for more).
Expect C&D letters to start flying again (just like it happened the first time).

Diogen.

If you look into the Doom9 thread, then on to the freedom to tinker site, one would think they were trying to lead us to believe the new PK was simply a random generated number that just "happened" to be the new key? Now as to if that is actually true or not we may never know.. and it's best we don't!

Congrats to all those "behind the scenes" guys over at Doom9. Damn I'd luv to get my hands on all the PM's as that would be some good reading! Keep up the fight!
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as a Linux user i just hope they crack AASC truly beyond repair so i can watch HD-movies (legally purchased) on my box
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...Now as to if that is actually true or not we may never know.. and it's best we don't!

About the same chance as "accidentally" win 6-49 ten times in a row.

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as a Linux user i just hope they crack AASC truly beyond repair...

Unlikely, since that would mean breaking AES-128.
But a couple more back-n-forth and a robust enough toolset might be developed to make revokation a non-issue.

As soon as this happens, there is the risk of losing PC-playback capability in anything but Vista, I believe.

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As soon as this happens, there is the risk of losing PC-playback capability in anything but Vista, I believe.

How? If tools become available which are "robust enough... to make revokation a non-issue", then there's no way they can prevent playing discs on PCs. All they can do is stop licensing players for non-Vista systems, but it wouldn't prevent 3rd parties from supporting "unencrypted" discs.

See what an anamorphoscopic lens can do,
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The processing key of the latest AACS update has been discovered (go to doom9 for more).
Expect C&D letters to start flying again (just like it happened the first time).

Diogen.

Wonderful news!!!

Just as Apple begins releasing DRM-free music on iTunes. What a day for DRM!
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The way the AACS is dying, I wouldn't be surprised if a randomly generated number would work! LOL

All I know is:

AAC5 15 DEAD AAC5 15 DEAD AAC5 15 DEAD00

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Should we change the thread title to 'AACS cracked beyond repair'?


I've suggested changing the title a couple times. But I'm starting to become accustomed to it the way it is and it's probably better this way.

Can you put smileys in titles?

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Between the Doom9 hackers and AnyDVD, I don't see ANY way that AACS has any possibility to get an upper hand on this. AACS has a built in 90 day policy for the content owners, and it is now PROVEN that 1 day is all it takes for a counter from the dedicated anti-AACS people.

I would not be a bit surprised if Slysoft is already sitting on top of the Processing/Device keys for ALL the hardware players out there, and just being very cautious about revealing their hand as required.

Once the mud starts flying, and perhaps the non 64 bit vista playback software gets revoked (Possible?), they can still rip keys from the stand alone players.

I'm shocked there is no Lunix player out there to take the known information and create a player. Based on the rapid pace of the windows demux and growing understanding of the format....I give it weeks before this happens. Especially since there is a "rev 3" processing key already out there.


Also, I'd not be to shocked to hear that certain doom9 superstars are in communication, to prevent leaking more than is needed with the MINIMUM 90 days between "updates" required for the content owners.

I see this as CSS, Once broken.....ALWAYS broken.

Seems they are making great headway on conversion tools as well.

Won't be too long to take a HD-DVD release and convert/burn it as a Bluray disk, and already converting to friendly PTP formats and sharing...
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How? If tools become available which are "robust enough... to make revokation a non-issue"...

The way I understand it, Vista has some "features" that make getting a simple memory dump (as an example) not as easy as it is in XP.
The moment it becomes clear (for AACS LA and its licensees) that either PowerDVD or WinDVD will leak the key the moment it is updated (essentially a WinXP issue, not the player's), the XP versions of the players won't get new keys, only Vista as a playback platform will be allowed.
Hell will most probably break lose, but I think this can happen.
Or PC playback will be banned alltogether (less likely).
Or the optical hidef formats as we know it today will die.

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P.S. I re read part of this thread, and for those that are saying Blue Ray or HD-DVD is less cracked, your WRONG, with BOTH the first and second processing key now leaked, BOTH formats are EQUALLY BROKEN!

The same unmentionable key will decode and allow really good Doom9 editing software to work with BOTH formats, and latest titles, so the format war is already ALMOST a moot point.
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The way I understand it, Vista has some "features" that make getting a simple memory dump (as an example) not as easy as it is in XP.

Diogen.

This is ONLY true of the 64 bit edition, as the 32 bit edition will fall prey to all the current hacking/disassembly tools avail.

There is not nearly enough market share of "strong 64 bit vista" , and there are far too many people with xp/vista 32 with players now to just say NO!

It will be fun to watch AACS fall down like the Berlin wall....
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I like the Finnish court ruling: "ineffective" DRM deserves to be broken.
Too bad it has zero chance to be upheld on this side of the ocean.

To the contrary, since hackers were equated to terrorists before the AACS fiasco, we might soon see some of them on the death row in Texas.

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P.S. I re read part of this thread, and for those that are saying Blue Ray or HD-DVD is less cracked, your WRONG, with BOTH the first and second processing key now leaked, BOTH formats are EQUALLY BROKEN!

Nobody has seen BD+ in action yet...

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Nobody has seen BD+ in action yet...

Diogen.

Thats because they have not got it working yet!

If they do, and can get the consumers to "Plug in" and "Update" the Stand alone players to make this silly sandbox"....How long do you think it will take to make a "Sandbox Player"....

Look at Sony's record, they failed MISERABLY to create evey format they attempted!

Sony sounds to me like
1. Betamax
2. DAT
3. PSP Media,
4. Blue Ray (It's dead on arrival)
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