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post #1591 of 2128 Old 03-03-2008, 11:13 AM
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xylon, please resize your silly pics to fit the forum.

Use http://www.shrinkpictures.com/ its really, really easy. Then we wont have the borders all screwed up because someone posted insanely huge pics.


Xylon works really hard on this thread. It takes a lot of time and effort.

If you don't like the way it is done, don't let the door hit you in the ASS.
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I don't know about that. To me it looks like the dvds and the Sky/HDNet versions are all from the same transfer just matted and color timed a little differently.

Possibly.
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xylon, please resize your silly pics to fit the forum.

Use http://www.shrinkpictures.com/ its really, really easy. Then we wont have the borders all screwed up because someone posted insanely huge pics.

If only my employee would give me a Double FULL HD display
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Xylon,

If you have the time could you do a screencap of the BD version of Run Lola Run when the bag-man and the bycicle guy are at the food stand? It's roughly 59 minutes into the movie and it's a wide view of the actual stand seen from the street corner. The sign and other things in the scene have some of the worst jaggies I've ever seen.

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That's because that scene and a few others were shot in SD video.

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Hi Kram,

Can you post the same screenshot from the Blu-ray ?

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I don't have it. Maybe Xylon or someone else can help us out.
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Thanks Kram. Jaggies on the above pic can easily be spotted by even J6P's like me.

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That's because that scene and a few others were shot in SD video.

Yeah, no doubt. But that still knocks it down a grade or two for PQ, at least for me.

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Oh c'mon, it was intentional.
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Intentional

1) Film new movies in SD
2) Apply excessive DNR and EE on HDM
3) Shoot outdoor scenes in SD
4) Apply focus puller frequently
5) Reducing / Boosting colors and contrast to alarming levels. Make the movie suffer from bipolar disorder.

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Limited Edition DVD---------->Superbit DVD

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If they are going to use the same transfer as was shown from Sky HD and HDNET then that extra detail that you have seen from 70mm showings are going to be missing. They will do some remastering for Blu-ray but it wont be as sharp.

Of course then again I won't mind to be proven wrong next year
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If they are going to use the same transfer as was shown from Sky HD and HDNET then that extra detail that you have seen from 70mm showings are going to be missing. They will do some remastering for Blu-ray but it wont be as sharp.

Of course then again I won't mind to be proven wrong next year

Pretty much the way I am looking at it. Will wait and see.
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What are the bitrates of the Limited vs Superbit DVDs? Just curious.

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If they are going to use the same transfer as was shown from Sky HD and HDNET then that extra detail that you have seen from 70mm showings are going to be missing. They will do some remastering for Blu-ray but it wont be as sharp.

Of course then again I won't mind to be proven wrong next year

What do you think of this statement:? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=25

paidgeek did say that HDnet used the newest version though
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LOA will be released on VIBGYOR Ray disc in 2020.

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1991 1035i transfer? I seriously doubt it. Maybe the laserdiscs were derived from that master but not the dvds/HD broadcasts.
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1991 1035i transfer? I seriously doubt it. Maybe the laserdiscs were derived from that master but not the dvds/HD broadcasts.

I have both the first and the last version of LOA on HD (Muse Disc and H264 UK version) and apart from the differences that can be attributed to the compression systems used and to digital vs analog delivery there is not really that much of a difference between the two. Same goes for the Muse LD and Broadcast HD version of Cliffhanger and also for the Muse LD and Blu-Ray of Stargate.
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These 'new' LOA pics look simply not like a new >2K scan. They look digital and processed and videoy. Sony better has a newer transfer than this ready.
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In an old hometheaterforum thread discussing the SuperBit DVD, Robert Harris stated that both the original DVD and SuperBit version utilized the same High Definition digital master, which at that point was already several years old. Harris did an HD tape-to-tape color correction, hence the difference in color between the original DVD and the SuperBit. He also stated in that thread that the HD master had EE built into it that couldn't be removed. So, unless a completely new film-to-tape transfer or digital scan has been done since the SuperBit DVD was released, what we're seeing is that same many-years-old-with-EE-built-in HD master that Robert Harris did a tape-to-tape HD color correction pass on for the SuperBit DVD.

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What are the bitrates of the Limited vs Superbit DVDs? Just curious.



What do you think of this statement:? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=25

paidgeek did say that HDnet used the newest version though

Well if its true (it very well may be) Lawrence needs a new scan. But I'm afraid its too late?

Anyone from Sony reading this thread?
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36.20 GB AVC ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................22.60 GB VC-1
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WTF? Training Day is only 13G on blu-ray? Is this for real? I though Warner blu-ray are all the same VC1 as HD-DVD? Someone need to make a list of these ****** transfer!

That HD-DVD UnderWorld is interesting. Where does it come from? Compare to MPEG2 with the same bitrate and size, VC1 sure must look quite a bit better if the source is similiar. I may want to get my first HD-DVD for my unopen XBOX360 HD-DVD drive!

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The overseas BLU release of Training Day is VC-1 encoded but doesn't feature DTHD track. I have the U.K Blu-ray and it's VC-1 encoded.

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The first few scenes in 3:10 to Yuma looked stunning but as the movie progressed the PQ took a hit. As Mhafner pointed out there seems to be some issue with the filtering from the source.

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The first few scenes in 3:10 to Yuma looked stunning but as the movie progressed the PQ took a hit. As Mhafner pointed out there seems to be some issue with the filtering from the source.

Well if you have a DI you can tweak the movie very much. So the maybe the director wanted a different look as the movie progress. Or it could been an screwup during compression (unlikely for the entire movie) etc
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Looking at the bit rates on 3:10 we cannot fault the compressionist. However there is some kind of filtering issue as color fringing was noticeable in many spots. Even the Japanese edition of Unleashed (Danny the Dog) seems to suffer from color fringing though the bit rate is maintained above 30 Mbps.

Entertainment72 -> There is no denying the fact that the 60A3000 produces accurate primary colors. Can you take some more shots around the 70-110 minutes mark ?

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Entertainment72 -> There is no denying the fact that the 60A3000 produces accurate primary colors. Can you take some more shots around the 70-110 minutes mark ?

Yea no problem, I'll try tonight.. (I assume you're talking about 3:10). It's crazy how different the colors look from 3:10 to POTC:AWE without any changes to the 60A3000 .
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