Originally Posted by Danny_N
There's plenty of older people who don't have PC's or home networks. Do you think that they prefer to spend extra cash to buy additional hardware with which they can enjoy those soundtracks or will they prefer just putting the discs in their player and enjoy those soundtracks for just the price of the disc?
I gave you the example of adding storage to an existing machine. A person not comfortable with that scenario, can buy a new HD DVD player with built-in storage. Many such people have PVR/DVR type systems for time shifting with built-in storage. And many DVD recorders have built-in hard disks.
In addition, buy using a simple USB thumb drive, you can add storage to any HD DVD player with such a connection. Most everyone is familiar with that concept. And these cost nothing in grand scheme of things - certainly far less than the cost differential between BD and HD DVD players.
But all of this is secondary as your argument is incorrect anyway
. I am not talking about taking the primary language away from the disc. You can have a Swedish track in DD+ at 448kbs and have it not matter in the total picture (bandwidth of storage). The issue is, should that track be in lossless 24-bit? If so, would all of you who don't speak Swedish, want to lose 6 mbit/sec of your much talked about bandwidth when you watch the movie in US? And would the older person not familiar with technology, demand to hear Danish in lossless audio? I think the answer to both has to be yes.
Here is really the problem with BDA's claims here. They have to define a very narrow scenario where what they have matters. With capacity, we can go 4+ hours of fanstic video. So they have to paint a scenario where you need 6 hours, but not more. Because they run out of space. On bandwidth, they can claim that people need more lossless audio. But as soon as they put two of them in there, they reach the same bandwidth as HD DVD and then have to claim that you don't need more than that. Which of course, doesn't work. Either they can do 26 lossless languages which is as many languages as we provide in Windows, or quit making a big deal out of it and support digital distribution which is the absolute proper solution. We do this for Windows today for less used languages beyond 26.
And keep in mind that all of these corner cases are supposed to justify a manufacturing process which is still quite immature where other replicators here say they still don't know of anyone who can make the BD-50 discs, 8 years after invention. And player OPUs (pick ups) which are much more expensive than HD DVD. So if we are worried about cost, we have to worry about these costs just the same.
Finally, as far as I know, people living in other countries that care a ton about audio fidelity, want to and will listen to the track in original language. The typically (not always) shun the dubbed tracks as such a track by definition is not lossless but has gone through the equiv. of human copy machine