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post #31 of 59 Old 08-31-2007, 12:50 AM
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Tough call until you subtract Speilberg from the Paramount/Dreamworks equation.
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They both have a large ammount of content that I love so it's a tie there. If we take into account TV series then Fox probably pips it, buffy, angel, firefly and bones are fox right?

However I voted for Paramount/Dreamworks because I have very little respect for the way Fox run their business. This isn't because I favour HD-DVD if anything this is one of the reasons I favour HD-DVD. Region coding, harsh copy protection, some terrible FUD from fox etc
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The Fox/MGM catalog is more interesting to me but I voted for Paramount/DW because the latter actually allows me to buy their movies! What good is Fox/MGM's catalog if they remain locked up in vaults forever?
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Easy. The one that actually releases HDM

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Catalog is not the answer here and Paramount has the stuff for the next couple of years.
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For me it is a tough choice, but I'll stick with Paramount because of their HUGE classic catalog of 70 years...

MGM would be my choice, but they sold most of their classic films.

Fox has a very good library with a few GREAT classics.

But I'll stick with Paramount and Dreamworks instead.
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I refuse to pay the prices FOX/MGM charges for HDM. Screw 'em, I'll wait until they are priced more realistically. Paramount/Dreamworks wins by default in my home!
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For all intents and purposes MGM now only exists only as a logo. Warner owns the bulk of their productions along with RKO's.

Does that mean that Warner now owns the rights to the old Midnite Movie titles?

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Voted Fox/MGM; but Paramount/DW have some great stuff too. Not an easy call. As far a as a format availability comparison (which I know, is not what the poll is about) you'd have to go Fox/MGM/Sony/Disney vs. Uni/Para/DW (including all the sub studios of Sony and Disney, and assuming Warner stays neutral). That's an easier call for me in favor of the BD offerings.

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I choose Fox/MGM because my cursor was closer to the button.
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Tough call - they're both really great studio pairings, with solid catalogs.

Personally, I would put the Paramount catalog ahead of Fox/MGM, but not by much. I can't wait until Fox/MGM start releasing on HD DVD.......
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I refuse to pay the prices FOX/MGM charges for HDM. Screw 'em, I'll wait until they are priced more realistically. Paramount/Dreamworks wins by default in my home!

Aren't the MSRP for Paramount titles $40 too?
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Aren't the MSRP for Paramount titles $40 too?

I don't believe so. I have Top Gun preordered through Amazon and it's MSRP is $10.00 less than Robocop. Top Gun MSRP $29.99 vs Robocop for $39.98. I will not be paying a $10 premium for FOX/MGM titles. FOX has always been the most arrogant of the studios, and I am sad to see MGM in bed with them.
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Seeing as Star Wars will not be coming out for some time, and may never come out knowing Lucas, I'll have to go with Paramount/Dreamworks.

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I refuse to pay the prices FOX/MGM charges for HDM. Screw 'em, I'll wait until they are priced more realistically. Paramount/Dreamworks wins by default in my home!

Paramount is the highest of the HD-DVD studios. Warner is definitely the cheapest (when they're not releasing combos).

I figured the Blu-ray owners would be madder at Fox for releasing MPEG2 encodes rather than AVC or VC-1.
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If Spielberg's stuff is in the list, then Paramount/Dreamworks might edge out Fox/MGM. Otherwise, it's definitely the latter.

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Paramount/Dreamworks:

The Godfather
Gladiator
Saving Private Ryan
Indiana Jones
Forrest Gump
Shrek
Titanic
Transformers
Mission Impossible
Top Gun
The Firm
Collateral
Days of Thunder
War of the Worlds
Catch Me If You Can
American Beauty
Coming To America
Beverly Hills Cop
Star Trek
Tom Clancy Jack Ryan series
Iron Man

MGM honestly has absolutely nothing I can think of that I care about. Rocky?

Fox:

Star Wars (F'd up remakes)
Independence Day
Alien
X-Men
Die Hard
True Lies
Speed
Big
There's Something About Mary

Fox has only really become a huge player in the movie business in recent years, but I think the quality of most of their films is still lacking. They definitely don't have a really strong back catalog like Paramount. In terms of actual movie quality I would rank Dreamwork's best stuff ahead of all other studios.

American Beauty, Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan; DreamWorks is the studio that all of modern Hollywood should be modeled after. Universal losing it's partnership with DreamWorks to Paramount was a huge loss.
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Speaking strictly from a sales numbers point of view, Fox/MGM sold more titles on Blu-ray compared with the Parmount/Dreamworks.

In fact, Paramount/Dreamworks are nowhere to be seen on the YTD to August 5th 2007 top twenty best selling titles list. It is interesting to note that Universal is also absent.
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Fox because Fox has Aliens, Predator, True Lies, the Die Hard series, ID4, I Robot, Fight Club, X-Men 1-3.

More importantly, Fox actually releases their hit movies on high def. Of those I just listed, 7 are already on BD or coming. Paramount releases a lot of crap on high def and none of the big movies we all want. No Star Trek movies, no Gladiator, no Titanic, no Indiana Jones.

Comparing the output of the two studios, Fox/MGM puts out a ton more movies in the same amount of time as Paramount (compare the average per month for the two studios when actually releasing content).

Yeah, I'll take Fox's catalogue over Paramount's because I know Fox will actually release the movies I want to see on high def. Meanwhile, Paramount likes to wait for years to release the movies you really want to see.

Look at their DVD track record with movies like Titanic and Star Trek. Unfortunately, Gladiator WAS released quite quickly, but that was before Paramount conquered them and took over the reigns. I expect similar sluggishness in releases now in high def.
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Shouldn't it say Dreamworks without Spielburg vs Fox?

If I had to chose, it would be Fox.
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Shouldn't it say Dreamworks without Spielburg vs Fox?

If I had to chose, it would be Fox.

Well than you should look at it as Dreamworks w/o Speilburg vs Fox w/o Lucas since he has not committed either.
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wow! i bet if there was no format war, FOX would have won this poll by at least 80:20 %

you clearly can see the "fanboy" votes in this poll....

Whats next? Weinstein VS Disney, 60:40 Weinstein?

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Even though I am a HD DVD supporter, that's not going to make me lie. I do prefer the catalog that Fox has over Paramount.

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I refuse to pay the prices FOX/MGM charges for HDM. Screw 'em, I'll wait until they are priced more realistically. Paramount/Dreamworks wins by default in my home!

Exactly! Fox's $39.99 MSRP is way out of line when compared to Blades of Glory, Disturbia, and Shooter's MSRPs of $39.99.
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American Beauty, Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan; DreamWorks is the studio that all of modern Hollywood should be modeled after. Universal losing it's partnership with DreamWorks to Paramount was a huge loss.

You know, I like Dreamworks too...but obviously it's not the model to follow, since clearly they weren't able to stay financially capable with said strategy.

In my perfect world, Dreamworks wouldn't be part of Paramount to begin with and would still be an independent studio. But...what can you do.
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wow! i bet if there was no format war, FOX would have won this poll by at least 80:20 %

you clearly can see the "fanboy" votes in this poll....

Whats next? Weinstein VS Disney, 60:40 Weinstein?

SAD

Are you kidding??? I very much enjoy FOX movies, but I generally consider them to be appealing to the teenage boy in me. When I think FOX I think big over the top summer blockbusters, which is nice. But, I would take a film like Braveheart, Gladiator, or Titanic anyday of the week.

Braveheart ecspecially.
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