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The first one ran so well, but got a bit long so, as we've done with the Insiders and News threads, we'll sort of start over with a few new rules and some old ones:

As before we expect intelligent posts of honest rumblings in the industry. The more credible sources you can cite, the better. However, you now ARE expected to cite a source. Link if possible. If you are uncomfortable citing a source or your source insists on anonymity, send the rumor to a mod FIRST so we can confirm the source.

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Anyone posting "I heRd therez BIG bad n00z 4 fanBOis in 24hrs" will be immediately booked on a one-way flight to Burma. In other words, no "teases." Unless, of course, you're a shapely blond in which case all teases need to be PM'd directly to Jon Spackman. CC mark and me.

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Posting a new rumor: please use this template, which is still being updated

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Hi,

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the efforts of DrDon and Mark in taking on the challenges of moderating such a thread.

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In other words, no "teases." Unless, of course, you're a shapely blond in which case all teases need to be PM'd directly to Jon Spackman. CC mark and me.

LOL! Never let it be said that the mods don't have a sense of humor.

I'm glad to hear that sources for rumors are required. Otherwise anyone and their mother can and do make flame bait up.
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Dr. Don likes Shapely blonds!!


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Now, see how easy that is?
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Unless, of course, you're a shapely blond in which case all teases need to be PM'd directly to Jon Spackman. CC mark and me.

Well, far be it for me to start a rumour, but am I reading to much in the use of "blond" here? Perhaps you meant "blonde"?

Do highlights count?
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Hi,

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the efforts of DrDon and Mark in taking on the challenges of moderating such a thread.

Thanks very much.

Larry

Agreed. It's like getting wild chimpanzees to to sit at the table and use proper etiquette.

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As before we expect intelligent posts of honest rumblings in the industry. The more credible sources you can cite, the better. However, you now ARE expected to cite a source. Link if possible. If you are uncomfortable citing a source or your source insists on anonymity, send the rumor to a mod FIRST so we can confirm the source.

Excellent move moderators. Thank you.
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What the . . .

I did a search on google for "shapely blonds" and I got a link to this thread.
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Posting a new rumor: please use this template, which is still being updated

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This will be very unfair to the folks who like to actually attempt to START unfounded rumors.
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rumor: New model PS3

my source is.......Kotatu

Link: http://kotaku.com/gaming/coming-soon...del-305242.php

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your certainty level of confirmation[scale 1-10]: 9

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Website BluraySavings.com is currently listing the mysterious model # CECHG01 on its website as one of the players you can buy to qualify for their offer of five free Blu-ray movies. The printable coupon on the site states that the player purchase must be made between October 1, 2007 and January 31, 2008. Perhaps we will be hearing about this new model sooner than we think.

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What are the other 2 models listed? The 60 GB and the 80GB?

Wasn't there something "rumored" as a 120GB PS3?
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What are the other 2 models listed? The 60 GB and the 80GB?

Wasn't there something "rumored" as a 120GB PS3?

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/10941/532/

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"*CECHA01 (Original Model): 60GB Hard Disk
"*CECHE0 (Addition Model): 80GB Hard Disk"

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rumor: Sony "Big Bang" Announcement (speculation PS3 new model)

my source is.......Gamepro (France)

Link (French): http://www.gamepro.fr/actualites/15361/sony-ps3/

English Translation: http://translate.google.com/translat...fsony%2dps3%2f

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Time frame til confirmation: October 12th

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Indeed, it seems that the dated October 12, 2007 one was chosen by Sony to make an enough important advertisement to be qualified in-house “big-bang”…

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I'm skeptical as to whether a $399 PS3 is going to help much with their Blu-ray position. The PS3 is already a considerable value at $499 for a Blu-ray player. PS3 sales haven't been hurting because of its ability as a game machine in my opinion, but rather from a complete lackluster of solid A games. I am sure Sony is lowering the price to entice gamers far more than HT enthuasists. The gaming market is a bigger win for them then the niche market HD resides in.

So by lowering the price to $399 they are now on a level playing field with the 360 and still higher than the Wii. Both have VERY solid A titles to offer and their bundles at some wherehouse stores are GREAT deals. I think Sony needs to concentrate on getting some really solid games out before they start worrying about their console price. Why would a gamer want to buy a console at the same or higher price than the competition if the competition has far better games to play?? PS2 had the advantage of A LOT of great games and plenty of second and third party support that MS didn't have, that isn't the case with the 360 anymore.

Should be interesting to see how the holidays play out. With Halo 3 out there and Mario Galaxy on the way (along with Metroid out there) Sony has some STIFF competition in the console war.

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What are the other 2 models listed? The 60 GB and the 80GB?

Wasn't there something "rumored" as a 120GB PS3?

The CECHB01 is the 20GB one (I just looked at my box) so that isn't it either
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RDJAM, Im anxiously awaiting the 30 days and wondering if everything is still on track from here....
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But there's a lot more info - however, I have been asked nicely by my sources to hold the rest of the info for 30 days... I hope you understand it's in the best interests of HD DVD that I do this, folks...

Suffice to say, tho, I do know what the first 51 Gig title is likely to be
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rumor: New model PS3

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source: engadget.com


FCC reveals PS3 model CECHG01 -- the el cheapo 40GB PS3?

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Having just denied the existence of a low cost, entry level PS3, we weren't expecting to find a new PS3 model from Sony parked in the FCC exhibits list this morning. That's right, a new PlayStation 3 model CECHG01 was just unearthed. The juiciest of documents are all withheld upon Sony's request for confidentiality. However, we did manage to scrape up a few details: Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; 802.11b/g WiFi; a 3.2GHz CPU clock speed just like other PS3s; 66MHz ATA, 133MHz ATA, 33MHz PCI and 750MHz SATA1; and a bevy of ports including USB, HDMI, and Ethernet. At least that what it looks like after combing through the data. Nothing new, eh? So the reason for the new model number is likely the result of a hard disk change given Sony's preference for unique models reflecting changes in storage. However, for all we know that could be an increase and not a decrease in capacity so we'll all have to hold tight for now and watch this unfold.

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What are the other 2 models listed? The 60 GB and the 80GB?

Wasn't there something "rumored" as a 120GB PS3?

There was speculation back then the 80gb version was revealed that Sony might up the GB to compete with the 120gb XBox 360 elite .

The PS3 Model numbers:
20GB CECHB01.
60GB CECHA01
80GB CECHE01/CECHF01
European 60GB CECHC01,
European 20BG CECHD01 (never released.)

Source: Register Hardware UK

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Hint of next PS3 spied on web
Whether it's the rumoured 40GB cut-down model or not, there does appear to be a further Sony PlayStation 3 console in the works. The US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) website currently lists a PS3 with the model number CECHG01 and its certification as a 'good neighbour' wireless device.

Sony's US 60GB and 80GB PS3s have the model numbers CECHA01 and CECHE01/CECHF01, respectively. The now defunct 20GB version had the model number CECHB01. The European 60GB PS3 is CECHC01, we understand, with CECHD01 the code for European 20BG model that, ultimately, was never released.

So CECHG01 is next in the sequence. Of course, it could be a planned European 80GB console, but if that's the case, why is the US FCC evaluating it?

Sony smartly requested that the FCC withhold pictures and other details of the tested device, so we're left with nothing to go on beyond the rumoured 40GB hard drive.

Over here, Sony claimed the rumours were nothing but rumours - neither a confirmation nor a denial, and the company's usual comment when details of a real product have leaked out.

There's no doubt a 40GB model would be a little cheaper than the current 60GB PS3, but knocking 20GB off the hard drive capacity wouldn't inherently allow Sony to get the console's price down to £300 and certainly not £200.

Some folk have speculated that Sony might be about to drop the Blu-ray Disc drive from the low-end product, which could have a big impact on pricing. But that seems unlikely given Sony's keenness to use the console to drive take-up of the next-gen video disc format.

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Came to post the big bang rumor but it's already up. If it is the reduced price PS3, I'm glad to see it's planned for the week before Transformers comes out becuase it could spur Blu Ray sales for that week. I'm hoping that pack in coupons.

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Let's keep THIS thread to rumors and, perhaps, a quick comment or two about the rumor. Don't want it getting off topic and off track. Thanks.

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From Arstechnica:

PlayStation 3 getting holiday makeover: $399 PS3 rumor has legs

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We also have a date to pin this information to: our sources tell us that the $399 PlayStation 3 hardware will launch on, or before, November 16. We're confident in this information, as our sources in this area have always given us accurate information in the past. The "sensitive information" in the FCC filing will go public 45 days from September 4, unless something changes. We're confident saying that Sony is readying a new low-priced weapon for the console wars, regardless. Frankly, we also think it makes good sense.

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Rumor From maxconsole http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=21329

But after reading the report a few days ago, I have more details to report on the new PlayStation 3, as I’ve obtained an un-edited copy of the initial FCC (Federal Communication Commission) report (below with the original 60GB version of the PS3). Here are the things to note that’s not in the previous reports on this topic:

1.) The new PS3 model uses less power than the other models. This one uses 3A (Power Measurement), while the older version use 3.3A and 3.2A respectively.

2.) The new PS3 will include a brand-new controller, most likely the recently announced Dual-Shock 3 (this is proven in the document)

3.) The new PS3’s Wi-Fi and Bluetooth hardware has seen a significant upgrade, possibly allowing for longer distances and even faster connections.

4.) I’ve heard dripplings of a 65nm chipset coming soon. Could this model be the very first in the line of quieter, less-power consuming PS3 models?

I’ve attached all of the images that I have below. But let’s get to the point… a 40GB PS3 for $399? Maybe. A new PS3 announced in the next two weeks? Count on it.

Better wifi and Blu Ray range and quieter for 399$, sounds like a winner to me!
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Sadly once a product fails to get the buzz and coolness factor that makes for winners these days, it never seems to regain, it becomes an uphill battle from then on, the Edsel syndrome. With Sony's repositioning of the PS3 more as the BD player, lack of games support, etc, it may increase sales, but not likely to make it a "winner" in the classic marketing sense
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Rumor From maxconsole http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=21329

But after reading the report a few days ago, I have more details to report on the new PlayStation 3, as I've obtained an un-edited copy of the initial FCC (Federal Communication Commission) report (below with the original 60GB version of the PS3). Here are the things to note that's not in the previous reports on this topic:

1.) The new PS3 model uses less power than the other models. This one uses 3A (Power Measurement), while the older version use 3.3A and 3.2A respectively.

2.) The new PS3 will include a brand-new controller, most likely the recently announced Dual-Shock 3 (this is proven in the document)

3.) The new PS3's Wi-Fi and Bluetooth hardware has seen a significant upgrade, possibly allowing for longer distances and even faster connections.

4.) I've heard dripplings of a 65nm chipset coming soon. Could this model be the very first in the line of quieter, less-power consuming PS3 models?

I've attached all of the images that I have below. But let's get to the point a 40GB PS3 for $399? Maybe. A new PS3 announced in the next two weeks? Count on it.

Better wifi and Blu Ray range and quieter for 399$, sounds like a winner to me!

If this really happens I will most likely be going format neutral. The only reasons I haven't picked up a PS3 yet is the fan noise and the lack of IR remote capablility. I'm not a gamer but I just might try a game or two along with watching movies.

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If this really happens I will most likely be going format neutral. The only reasons I haven't picked up a PS3 yet is the fan noise and the lack of IR remote capablility. I'm not a gamer but I just might try a game or two along with watching movies.

I think I'll wait until I know the PS3 is definitely 2.0 profile capable.
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I think I'll wait until I know the PS3 is definitely 2.0 profile capable.

I think it's pretty likely it's capable. I'm interested to see a commitment from Sony that they'll provide an upgrade to 2.0.
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I think it's pretty likely it's capable. I'm interested to see a commitment from Sony that they'll provide an upgrade to 2.0.

Good luck with that. Less than 31 days away from the 1.1 "deadline" and they haven't even confirmed the PS3 will be updated for that, let alone 2.0. I assume they'll wait until after the holidays to avoid bad publicity in the crucial Q4 runup (by making consumers more aware of the profile issues).

I too am waiting for an formal announcement/confirmation before I plunk down that kindof change. I'm not really made of money.....only my left leg is, but I use that to pay the mortgage.
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I think it's pretty likely it's capable. I'm interested to see a commitment from Sony that they'll provide an upgrade to 2.0.

Given that PS3 accounts for 95% of all BD players, then whatever the PS3 is, that is the blu-ray spec. There will be nothing that players can do that the PS3 cannot, because no one would make software that doesn't play on the PS3.
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