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Movies coming out on BR and HD DVD in 2008

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#1 ·
We all know that Blu Ray has a big advantage in releases this year (Spidey, Pirates, etc) vs. HD DVD, but, I was wondering, what about next year, so I made a list of everything that could, in my opinion, be a big hit, the over $100 million type of films, I wanted to include 30 Days of Nights, Resident Evil 3, The Kingdom and 3:10 to Yuma but none of them will/has done over $100 million at the Box Office.


If anyone else can think of a film that should be a big hit I might of missed just post the title and I will edit my list, but it should be a film that comes out for HDM by the end of 2008, for example, Harry Potter 6 comes to theaters in November, 2008, so it will not be out on HDM till 2009, so it would not be included.

Universal

American Gangster

Charlie Wilson's War (Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts).

Wanted

The Incredible Hulk

Hellboy II: The Golden Army

Mamma Mia! ( I do not want to see this, but a lot of women will, my wife for one example.)

The Mummy 3: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

Paramount/Dreamworks

Bee Movie

Beowulf

Sweeney Todd

1-18-08 (Cloverfield)

The Spiderwick Chronicles

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (should come for both formats or not at all)

Kung Fu Panda (animated from Dreamworks)

The Love Guru (Mike Myers new comedy)

Tropic Thunder (Spielberg produced Action Comedy with Ben Stiller)

Iron Man

Warner

Fred Claus

I Am Legend

Get Smart

The Dark Knight

Speed Racer

10,000 B.C.

New Line

The Golden Compass

Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo

Sony

Vantage Point

Hancock

Step Brothers

You Don't Mess with Zohan (Adam Sandler)

Fox/MGM

Hitman

Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

The Mist

Alvin and the Chipmunks

Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

Starship Dave (Eddie Murphy)

X-Files 2 (films in December, supposed to come out in July at theaters)

Jumper

Horton Hears a Who

Disney

National Treasure: Book of Secrets

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

Wall-E
 
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#127 ·

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Originally Posted by Bob Black /forum/post/12260256


Iron Man is as guaranteed a blockbuster as the Dark Knight! There are a handful of titles we can count on as being gigantic in 2008, and Iron Man is definitely among this short list.


How do I know? Industry expectations. Insane furor over the film and trailer at Comic Con. An excellent teaser trailer that's been circulating for months now. Hype and word of mouth.


And how, exactly, is the comic book genre the most important blockbuster-type films when they are all exclusive to Blu-Ray (Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 2, Ghost Rider), but when HD DVD-exclusive studios have the lion's share this coming summer (Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk) they suddenly become a "tired genre"? Are you also implying that The Dark Knight will be a bust because it's part of this same "tired genre", or does this label only relate to those comic book adaptations that aren't available on Blu-Ray?

Not all all. I am a Blu Ray supporter, but Ghost Rider was a terrible film. I saw the 1st FF and it was mediocre so I never bothered seeing the 2nd. Spiderman 3 was lacklustre.


So I'm not big on comic book hero films period, but Batman Begins was certainly excellent (I never liked any of the previous Batman movies or Superman movies for that matter either)


Thanks for the info on Iron Man in any case.
 
#128 ·

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Originally Posted by brian1212 /forum/post/12265041


Not all all. I am a Blu Ray supporter, but Ghost Rider was a terrible film. I saw the 1st FF and it was mediocre so I never bothered seeing the 2nd. Spiderman 3 was lacklustre.

That may be true (and, in fact, I agree with all of it). But that doesn't change the fact that every single film mentioned there was a big hit.
 
#130 ·
I've been on holiday this weekend, but it was great to return home and see that a few films from the OP's original 40+ long list have already fallen at the first hurdle on their way to $100 million+ target.

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I made a list of everything that could, in my opinion, be a big hit, the over $100 million type of films

Fred Claus

Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

Beowulf


All seem unlikely to make the $100 million mark. Beowulf might just make it, but as the film had such a gimmick based marketing campaign, next weeks drop-off will tell us more. Strange that Paramount would not seperate out the Thursday night preview numbers from the 3 day weekend grosses.
 
#131 ·

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Originally Posted by Everdog /forum/post/12256697


One thing for sure that every can agree upon is that things look a lot different than last year when Paramount was neutral and Blu-ray had a monsterous advantage. Once HD DVD gets past November, it looks like that Blu-Ray advantage will disappear and may switch to HD DVD.


Even if you think the release schedules are even, that is a BIG change from last year.

You're not whistling dixie. I think HD-DVD has weathered the storm. For many months the talk was that when ______ came out, HD-DVD was cooked. For _____ you can insert the Pirate series, casino royale, Spidey Trilogy, or Cars/Ratatouille. I don't think even the most optimistic of BR fans can point to any format killers on the scheduled horizon. The same of course can be said for HD-DVD.
 
#132 ·

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Originally Posted by paxi /forum/post/12266629


You're not whistling dixie. I think HD-DVD has weathered the storm. For many months the talk was that when ______ came out, HD-DVD was cooked. For _____ you can insert the Pirate series, casino royale, Spidey Trilogy, or Cars/Ratatouille. I don't think even the most optimistic of BR fans can point to any format killers on the scheduled horizon. The same of course can be said for HD-DVD.

Going from a disadvantage to even will cause a slight change in weekly sales. If HD DVD does gain an advantage, then the shift will be greater.
 
#133 ·

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Originally Posted by boo /forum/post/12135838


We all know that Blu Ray has a big advantage in releases this year (Spidey, Pirates, etc) vs. HD DVD, but, I was wondering, what about next year, so I made a list of everything that could, in my opinion, be a big hit, the over $100 million type of films, I wanted to include 30 Days of Nights, Resident Evil 3, The Kingdom and 3:10 to Yuma but none of them will/has done over $100 million at the Box Office.


If anyone else can think of a film that should be a big hit I might of missed just post the title and I will edit my list, but it should be a film that comes out for HDM by the end of 2008, for example, Harry Potter 6 comes to theaters in November, 2008, so it will not be out on HDM till 2009, so it would not be included.

Universal

American Gangster

Charlie Wilson's War (Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts).

Wanted

The Incredible Hulk

Hellboy II: The Golden Army

Mamma Mia! ( I do not want to see this, but a lot of women will, my wife for one example.)

The Mummy 3: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

Paramount/Dreamworks

Bee Movie

Beowulf

Sweeney Todd

1-18-08 (Cloverfield)

The Spiderwick Chronicles

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (should come for both formats or not at all)

Kung Fu Panda (animated from Dreamworks)

The Love Guru (Mike Myers new comedy)

Tropic Thunder (Spielberg produced Action Comedy with Ben Stiller)

Iron Man

Warner

Fred Claus

I Am Legend

Get Smart

The Dark Knight

Speed Racer

10,000 B.C.

New Line

The Golden Compass

Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo

Sony

Vantage Point

Hancock

Step Brothers

You Don't Mess with Zohan (Adam Sandler)

Fox/MGM

Hitman

Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

The Mist

Alvin and the Chipmunks

Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

Starship Dave (Eddie Murphy)

X-Files 2 (films in December, supposed to come out in July at theaters)

Jumper

Horton Hears a Who

Disney

National Treasure: Book of Secrets

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

Wall-E

Am I missing something? Which of the above movies will be on HD-DVD, which will be on BR and which will be on both?
 
#135 ·

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Originally Posted by Everdog /forum/post/12267663


Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks - HD DVD


Warner, New Line - Both


Sony, Fox/MGM, Disney - Blu-Ray

Hmm, looks like HD-DVD has better stuff coming out now. Maybe I'll buy the A35 now, and then blu-ray when they get less expensive down the road.


Pixar is great for blu-ray, so I defintely want both.
 
#137 ·

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Originally Posted by Everdog /forum/post/12267663


Sony, Fox/MGM, Disney - Blu-Ray

However, the MGM titles on that list are muddy. The Mist, for example, is a co-production with Weinstein, and Weinstein is handling the home video distribution.


Weinstein is HD DVD exclusive (technically... they haven't put anything out since June).
 
#138 ·
If we're talking about movies that will impact HD sales, then we should probably only look at the movies that will sell on HD and that is first, action movies, and second, family movies (CGI or fantasy). Just because American Gangster eclipsed $100 million and will be nominated for awards does not mean it will sell well on HD b/c why pay more for that type of movie.


So I'd say movies that do really well on HD:

Universal: nothing, they only have sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch

Paramount: Indiana Jones, Iron Man

Warner: I am Legend, The Dark Knight

Newline: Golden Compass maybe

Sony: meh

Fox: Horton hears a who?

Disney: all of them
 
#140 ·

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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12270899


If we're talking about movies that will impact HD sales, then we should probably only look at the movies that will sell on HD and that is first, action movies, and second, family movies (CGI or fantasy). Just because American Gangster eclipsed $100 million and will be nominated for awards does not mean it will sell well on HD b/c why pay more for that type of movie.


So I'd say movies that do really well on HD:

Universal: nothing, they only have sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch

Paramount: Indiana Jones, Iron Man

Warner: I am Legend, The Dark Knight

Newline: Golden Compass maybe

Sony: meh

Fox: Horton hears a who?

Disney: all of them

So when Universal had all hit comedies, that genre didn't matter for HDM. Now, apparently, dramas also don't matter. Have you heard of The Departed? It's an acclaimed drama very much in the realm of American Gangster, and happens to be one of the top selling hi-def titles so far (in the top 5, I believe).


And you quickly dismiss the Incredible Hulk and The Mummy 3 -- the original Hulk made a solid $130 million and this new version has wisely cast Ed Norton in the lead role. As for the Mummy, the first 2 installments grossed $155 and $202 million in the US, so this sequel is sure to be a hit. Especially with Jet Li along for the ride.


So, by your logic, why should studios release anything on hi-def at all? Apparently only a handful of titles in very selective genres are even worth releasing. Action movies and cartoons, cool! Let's just throw those damn dramas, thrillers, and comedies out the window.
 
#141 ·

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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12270899


If we're talking about movies that will impact HD sales, then we should probably only look at the movies that will sell on HD and that is first, action movies, and second, family movies (CGI or fantasy). Just because American Gangster eclipsed $100 million and will be nominated for awards does not mean it will sell well on HD b/c why pay more for that type of movie.


So I'd say movies that do really well on HD:

Universal: nothing, they only have sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch

Your statements above don't seem to reflect the realities we have seen recently, both for box office and HDM sales.


The Departed is (a) a crime drama and (b) Oscar-nominated. And it is one of the best selling high def titles. Why, again, will American Gangster not sell?


As for "sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch", that's crap. Titles like Hulk, Hellboy, Mummy -- those are the types of titles that are selling best so far on HD. Even if they all suck (and odds are that they might), they'll all likely do VERY well at the box office and VERY well on HD DVD.


I have to agree with Bob Black -- back when all Universal had was catalog titles and hit comedies, we were told that those didn't sell. Now that they have hit dramas and comic book/action films... those won't sell either?!? What, exactly, are they supposed to release?


I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that every single one of those titles under the Universal heading will sell like pancakes on HD DVD.
 
#142 ·

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Originally Posted by Bob Black /forum/post/12272808


So when Universal had all hit comedies, that genre didn't matter for HDM. Now, apparently, dramas also don't matter. Have you heard of The Departed? It's an acclaimed drama very much in the realm of American Gangster, and happens to be one of the top selling hi-def titles so far (in the top 5, I believe).


And you quickly dismiss the Incredible Hulk and The Mummy 3 -- the original Hulk made a solid $130 million and this new version has wisely cast Ed Norton in the lead role. As for the Mummy, the first 2 installments grossed $155 and $202 million in the US, so this sequel is sure to be a hit. Especially with Jet Li along for the ride.


So, by your logic, why should studios release anything on hi-def at all? Apparently only a handful of titles in very selective genres are even worth releasing. Action movies and cartoons, cool! Let's just throw those damn dramas, thrillers, and comedies out the window.

+1


CGI/Sci-Fi/Action/Violent Dramas >3D animated movies > Comedies > Romantic Comedies > Period Films > Chick Flicks > non animated kids films > Documentaries (of the non nature variety)


I was not sure where to put Planet Earth. I guess mixed in that first group.
 
#143 ·
Hulk was a disappointment at the box office. What's worse is that most people didn't like it. IMDB ratings are inaccurate but a 5.8 isn't good. He's not a marketable character to the masses. I don't see the sequel doing any better even if it has Edward Norton. Hellboy didn't even break 100 million, I don't see how this will do well. He's also a stupid looking character. The Mummy 3?? wtf? maybe if they made it 5 years ago. That's no longer a bankable series. Geez does everyone here attend comic con or something.

unrelated, i remember a decent amount of ppl on IMDB thought King Kong would break Titanic's domestic record. what idiots.
 
#144 ·
I am an avid reader. My second favorite pasttime. I average 3 books a week and have for MANY years. My DVD collection is well over 400 . . my hardbook collection is almost twice that.


There are so many great books that could be turned into movies. But instead we have these studio heads trying to figure out how to make money. And they have latched unto the current scheme.


And they wonder why DVD sales are in the toilet.


American Gangster was a good movie (abiet about 20 minutes too long) but it will never get near these CGI and comic book movies.


You know what I see? I see the Hollywood studios all getting on the HMS Titantic and celebrating their wonderful decisions because they broke movie history - 4 films in the same season did over $300 million.


Bon Voyage!
 
#145 ·

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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12274365


Hulk was a disappointment at the box office. What's worse is that most people didn't like it. IMDB ratings are inaccurate but a 5.8 isn't good. He's not a marketable character to the masses.

One could have said that about Batman after Batman&Robin came out. That didn't stop Batman Begins from being a huge hit and selling well on HD DVD.


The Hulk made $132 million. There's every reason to believe the upcoming reboot will do $150+.

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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12274365


I don't see how this will do well. He's also a stupid looking character.

Well, there's a logical argument if I've ever heard one.


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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12274365


Hellboy didn't even break 100 million, I don't see how this will do well.

Define "well". We're talking about things that will sell well on high def media. You don't have to make $300 million (or even $100 million) for that to be the case. Hellboy is the type of comic book/action/heavy FX title that sells well as a day-and-date HD release. The original made $60 million. If the sequel does that (or better), I don't see why this wouldn't "do well" on HD DVD.

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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12274365


The Mummy 3?? wtf? maybe if they made it 5 years ago. That's no longer a bankable series.

You have Indy on your list, and the last movie for that came out in 1989.



I don't know what makes you an expert on what a "bankable series" or not, but without any specific logic behind your pronouncements, I think it's safe to ignore it.


The last movie made over $200 million domestically... and it came out in 2001, not exactly ancient history.

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Originally Posted by NormieTrice /forum/post/12274365


Geez does everyone here attend comic con or something.

I don't know what this means... but why don't you take a peek at what movies are featured every year at Comic Con. I'll give you a hint... they turn out to be many of the top-10 films for the year. Just because you say that they're tired and won't do well, doesn't make it true. Universal has an EXTREMELY strong lineup for 2008 -- that list doesn't even include some of the strong comedy titles coming out (like "Forgetting Sarah Marshall").
 
#146 ·

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Originally Posted by bboisvert /forum/post/12274786


One could have said that about Batman after Batman&Robin came out. That didn't stop Batman Begins from being a huge hit and selling well on HD DVD.


The Hulk made $132 million. There's every reason to believe the upcoming reboot will do $150+.




Well, there's a logical argument if I've ever heard one.





Define "well". We're talking about things that will sell well on high def media. You don't have to make $300 million (or even $100 million) for that to be the case. Hellboy is the type of comic book/action/heavy FX title that sells well as a day-and-date HD release. The original made $60 million. If the sequel does that (or better), I don't see why this wouldn't "do well" on HD DVD.




You have Indy on your list, and the last movie for that came out in 1989.



I don't know what makes you an expert on what a "bankable series" or not, but without any specific logic behind your pronouncements, I think it's safe to ignore it.


The last movie made over $200 million domestically... and it came out in 2001, not exactly ancient history.




I don't know what this means... but why don't you take a peek at what movies are featured every year at Comic Con. I'll give you a hint... they turn out to be many of the top-10 films for the year. Just because you say that they're tired and won't do well, doesn't make it true. Universal has an EXTREMELY strong lineup for 2008 -- that list doesn't even include some of the strong comedy titles coming out (like "Forgetting Sarah Marshall").

Batman Begin's success really came from word of mouth. It's opening weekend was below 50 million which isn't that great but people realized that it was a restart of the series and not in the same vein as the previous ones. Domestically I don't think it really met expectations (should have gotten 250+ million) but the next one will definitely.


According to IMDB, the budget for Hulk was 137 million so it didn't make that up in domestic gross. Half of the gross came from opening weekend which I think shows that it had no staying power. Early word of mouth killed it even though it was received well by critics. Hulk just isn't an easy character to market. He's green, big, ugly, can barely talk, and is violent.


Hellboy? It didn't even make its budget back domestically. It should have at least reached 100 million considering it's an action-adventure movie based on a comic and it wasn't rated R.


Indiana Jones is much more timeless than the Mummy series. Plus it has Steven Spielberg. I think more people would be open to a new Indy movie as opposed to a Mummy 3, especially after they made Scorpion King. It definitely smells of trying to milk a series for all it's worth. And it's worthless.
 
#151 ·

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Originally Posted by caesar1 /forum/post/12267643


Am I missing something? Which of the above movies will be on HD-DVD, which will be on BR and which will be on both?


You're missing a lot... including my list, which is more up-to-date and contains the movies that seemed to have been excluded on the blu-ray side in that first list.


See here:



Universal
American Gangster

Charlie Wilson's War (Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts).

Wanted

The Incredible Hulk

Hellboy II: The Golden Army

Mamma Mia!

The Mummy 3: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

Leatherheads

Forgetting Sarah Marshall


Paramount/Dreamworks
Bee Movie
Beowulf (Int'l distribution available for BR?)

Sweeney Todd (Dreamworks Exclusive dist. in USA only - Warner Int'l distrib.)

1-18-08 (Cloverfield)

The Spiderwick Chronicles
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (should come for both formats or not at all)

Kung Fu Panda (animated from Dreamworks)

The Love Guru (Mike Myers new comedy)

Tropic Thunder (Spielberg produced Action Comedy with Ben Stiller)

Iron Man

Madagascar 2

The Crate Escape

Startrek XI
Weinstein

The Mist

New Line
The Golden Compass

Semi-Pro

Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo

Warner
Fred Claus

I Am Legend

Get Smart

The Dark Knight

Speed Racer

10,000 B.C.

The Bucket List

Warner International titles

One Missed Call

The 11th Hour

Fool's Gold

Spring Breakdown

Nights In Rodanthe

Where The Wild Things Are

Harry Potter And The Half Blood Prince

Trick 'R Treat

Sony

Vantage Point

Hancock

Bond 22

The Other Boleyn Girl

Step Brothers

You Don't Mess with Zohan (Adam Sandler)

Walk Hard (Columbia - Apatow flick)

Angels & Demons ( davinci code follow up )

Fox/MGM

Hitman

Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

Wolverine

The Day the Earth Stood Still

The List

Alvin and the Chipmunks

Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

Starship Dave (Eddie Murphy)

X-Files 2 (films in December, supposed to come out in July at theaters)

Jumper

Horton Hears a Who

Dragonball Z live action

Disney

National Treasure: Book of Secrets

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

Wall-E

No Country for Old Men

Enchanted

Lionsgate
Rambo

The Eye

The Forbidden Kingdom (Jet Li/Jacky Chan)
 
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