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post #661 of 680 Old 06-23-2008, 01:26 PM
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Funny how downloads can effect a company.

To get back to topic. Absolutely!
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Apple caught up to Dell because of R&D, not downloads.

Dell leeched off MS R&D and still does.

Or put it another way, they got Microsoft's scraps.

Only thing they brought to the table was squeezing costs and inventory management.

That is, what Wal Mart excels at.

Nothing wrong with that necessarily, but a supposed tech company using technology to manage the supply chain instead of developing and productizing technology.
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Funny how downloads can effect a company.

Considering that Apple's downloads were only around for the last 2.5 years, I'm not sure that's the only reason.

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Considering that Apple's downloads were only around for the last 2.5 years, I'm not sure that's the only reason.

Nope, and the downloads by themself isnt making money for Apple, but the sellign of Ipods do.

But if thats the only reason, I have no idea. But Im very sure Ipod didnt hurt Apple.

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So what's the prospect of future growth in this area in the age of ISPs discussing reintroduction of bandwidth caps?
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So what's the prospect of future growth in this area in the age of ISPs discussing reintroduction of bandwidth caps?

My guess is that the ISPs will demand a fee from either the digital distribution companies or the studios for every movie (or extra content, basically any download) that's downloaded.

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My guess is that the ISPs will demand a fee from either the digital distribution companies or the studios for every movie (or extra content, basically any download) that's downloaded.


Good! Let greed and fighting among the service and content providers drive up the download cost.

I don't want to have a part of any system where the end goal is getting a piece of what's in my wallet every time I hit play. I am sure I am going to hear arguements that this not the plan, but without physical media THE MEDIA COMPANIES CAN CHANGE THE RULES WHENEVER they choose.

I have no problem with digital distribution as an alternative, but at no point do I want digital distribution to be the SOLE way to get content.

Do any of us want to pay someone every time we hear a favorite music track, watch our favorite movie or read a chapter in our favorite book?

Consumers need physical media to exist or we lose all of our FAIR USE rights.

To the media companies, I will never spend a DAMN dollar on your products if physical media is replaced by digital distribution completely.
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Good! Let greed and fighting among the service and content providers drive up the download cost.

I don't want to have a part of any system that's end goal is getting a piece of what's in my wallet every time I hit play.

I have no problem with digital distribution as an alternative, but at no point do I want digital distribution to be the SOLE way to get content.

Do any of us want to pay someone every time we hear a favorite music track, watch our favorite movie or read a chapter in our favorite book?

Consumers need physical media to exist or we lose all of our FAIR USE rights.

To the media companies, I will never spend a DAMN dollar on your products if physical media is replace by digital distribution completely.

Yeah, ISPs charging the companies and/or studios could be a good thing as it might disuade them from going download only. (I actually didn't think of that at first until reading your message.)

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Considering that Apple's downloads were only around for the last 2.5 years, I'm not sure that's the only reason.

Overall execution across their product line - Mac, iphone and itunes (ipod, Apple TV).
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Considering that Apple's downloads were only around for the last 2.5 years, I'm not sure that's the only reason.

That's just movie downloads, iTunes has been around for 7 years. (Luckily CDs still exist. )

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That's just movie downloads, iTunes has been around for 7 years. (Luckily CDs still exist. )

I was pointing out the last two years from the date provided, not today.

And yes, CDs are still around, and they're still responsible for 70% of all music sales after 25 years of existence and 7 years of iTunes.

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Broadband internet service is a profitable business for phone companies. Last I remember, it made them a lot more money than voice (which is going away due to mobile phones). So there is no way they are createing barriers which would entice competition to come in and eat their lunch.

Now, getting rid of the top .1% which downloads hundreds of gigabytes per month, maybe something they attempt in certain regions. But even that causes competitors to try to steal their customers without such caps. I know I can't wait to switch away from Comcast because of it.

All in all, let's wait for the so called Time magazine article to come out before running with such "news." That web site and video doesn't do it for me.

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Last I checked companys care about customer acquition and retention. Ask the folks over at Sprint/Nextel what they would do to stop losing customers to competitor Or why ATT is going to pay hunreds of dollars to subsidize the iphone.

Doesn't itunes now generate more music sales than Walmart? Amazing what one online business can do
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Unless Wimax becomes a viable last-mile tech, there is no competition for telecoms and cable companies.

Nobody other than Verizon seems interested in trenching new pipes into homes. And Verizon is cherry-picking the areas they upgrade and they won't encroach on territories "owned" by AT&T and other former Bells (not sure there are many others left).
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Nobody other than Verizon seems interested in trenching new pipes into homes. And Verizon is cherry-picking the areas they upgrade and they won't encroach on territories "owned" by AT&T and other former Bells (not sure there are many others left).

Is that a fact?

Seems that my local profitable (albeit a little bit rural) telephone co-op is/has-been adding DTV and high speed internet for the last mile with "new pipes". I wonder how many others are.
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If your co-op offers service out here in CA, I'll retract my statement.
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I don't know who is upgrading it's pipes but sure are somebody doing this.

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I don't know who is upgrading it's pipes but sure are somebody doing this.



Where's the link? What's the source? Your quote only mentions a private high-speed network slated to be used by a single enterprise (coincidentally, almost exactly what studios aka "large media groups" use for digital production a la LOTR), not anything even remotely resembling a consumer product.

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What is the status of wearable video glasses? Is that part of the mobile media strategy for the various players?

actually i was looking for video glasses that can be hooked up to my psp, while travelling. so that i could atleast watch a movie without holding the console...

so i stumbled upon the Relaxsee. was a bit hesitant to buy coz of the price... but in fairness, it does play in a lot of media. mp5 players, ipod, psp, even thru xbox!!.. im trying to look for a cheaper one.. there's this itheater, but still need to do some digging and find feedback about those two.
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