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Old 01-04-2008, 02:32 PM
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Are you believe to WB ?
Warner promised also TotalDVD...
now exclusive support to BD...
In reality WB want as Paramaunt $120M from To$hiba or $ony

Whats the point? of course they got paid, thats why they are there.

Main point, it shifts the HDM market share... so now we can have a HDM that we can all share...

I was a BD fan, if this was opposite i would be fine with it. I just want this dual crap to stop.


I know way too many people "waiting till its over" and the " remember the vhs betamax war?" so now they should change their minds.

DVD still out sells HDM by a ton, so this should help!

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The war meant great prices... I don't think anyone is realizing this... get ready to be raped. As a dual format guy this is TERRIBLE news to me, the customer has been the winner. The only winner here is Sony's FAT now fatter wallet.

The sale prices were artificially low. If the war meant great prices because of studio-supported GOBOs and such, it also meant a non-viable market because nobody was making any money.

A healthy market is one where large-volume sales create the economy of scale; manufacturing and distribution costs go down per unit because they're making so many. That's what we'll get now, just as we did with DVD and VHS.

The competiion will be on the basis of content and price, and will take place between the studios and the retailers. That's how it should be.

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this sucks. not so much the end of the format war, but that ive spent all my money on HD DVD. pretty much guarantee that PS3 will sell millions like the PS2 again.

so how much did Sony pay for this?
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microsoft is beating ps3 in the game front.... i just have to wonder if the ps3 was never released

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Engadget is also saying that "quite a sum" was paid out to Warner in order to make the switch... kinda funny after so many people complained about Microsoft paying out Paramount. But now that the BDA did it, I'm sure it's A-OK in their books.

I'd be interested to know if this is true, and what impact it has upon the other studios. HDDVD with Warner, Paramount/Dreamworks and Universal was a viable arrangement. With just Paramount/Dreamworks and Universal, I'd be worried about how long it can survive.

BTW, I'm format neutral, and thought it was a savvy business move by the DVD folks when they paid off Paramount, though I did hate the suddenness of not being able to get titles I had pre-ordered.

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Simply means one less studio that gets my hard earned money. Not going to support an inferior and incomplete format just because another studio would like to muscle me in that direction.
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With WB exclusive, we'll be seeing week after week of 80:20 sales in favor of Blu-Ray until Universal and Paramount refuse to sit on the sidelines any longer.

The format war is essentially over.

So what? With those studios getting incentives from HD DVD to be exclusive, there is little reason for them to switch. There is adequate market penetration for both HDDVD and BD players at this point so that there is room to sell plenty of discs in either format. When Paramount releases the Indy movies on HD-DVD for example, I'm sure they'll sell a ton no matter what the market share is at the time.
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Where's that Domino graphic when you need it. A great day for HDM. New Line is owner by Warner so is it safe to assume New Line is exclusive to Blu-Ray as well with this announcement?

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im neutral so no biggie and I would love to see some massive sales on the HD side as they try and clear them out.
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Wait for Sunday folks. We've been told that HD DVD has a "big" announcement.

If it's a studio, all of a sudden we're back to square one. But I'll say it is.. for HD DVD's sake, it would have to be at this point.
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I´m happy for my format of choice, yet i can´t really be all that joyfull because i know what it feels like when someone kicks you in the nuts and turn the back on you after years of you buying their products.. Yes i´m talking about Paramount.

I can understand the anger that HD-DVD fans might be feeling now (this is how many felt when you got Paramount.. isn´t funny at all right?). And i would not throw any bad remarks at them for ditching warner. However in warners case they picked the side with the best sales and most players so they want be hurt as much.

And i´m so reliefed that they didn´t turn red.. with a little bit of luck and some smart thinking this "war" could be over sooner now..

I´m gonna drink a glass of wine..

PS: HD-DVD make sure you get that bladerunner while it´s out!

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I have been enjoying discs of both formats for a long time. I am sad at these news, because I think it's the epitath of a format I love (though I love Blu Ray, of course!). The real questions now are:

1. What will Paramount and Universal do?
2. Will future HD/Blu Ray players be able to play HD DVDs?
3. What will happen to Blu Ray? I mean, what kind of players will we get, and at what price? And what will be the prices of the discs?
4. Will Warner's decision be the doom of HD DVD everywhere, or just in the US? That's definitely not obvious to me.

Oh well...
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It's easy to say that when you are dual format now.. but for the future, who the hell would want to buy a dual format player?

You make it sound like a dual format player is some ugly, burdeoning beast of a player.

Last I checked, they didn't look much different than any other stand alone player on the market. And assuming the prices aren't ridiculously high, who WOULDN'T want to buy one?

If I could come into the game in a year and get a stand-alone Blu-ray play for $200 (this would be a "top of the line" player, mind you) or a dual-format player for, say $250-$300 (again, top of the line) and then buy a ton of movies that were previously HD DVD-only on eBay for far less than what the new BD copy retails for, it seems like a win-win situation to me.

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Also: you couldn't care less and purposes are NOT intensive. For all intents and purposes if you don't know these things, you probably shouldn't use them.
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Dual format, so no biggie to me. I guess it had to end sometime...

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This move doesn't make any sense at all.

WEB enabled features and PiP, where is Blu-rays counter part of this??

This is so bad i can't even make an joke about it.

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Where's that Domino graphic when you need it. A great day for HDM. New Line is owner by Warner so is it safe to assume New Line is exclusive to Blu-Ray as well with this announcement?

New Line was already BD exclusive. I wouldn't expect any New Line titles at this point.
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Why is everyone expecting Universal and Paramount to go Blu-Ray? I don't see that happening anytime soon, and with those studios still backing HD-DVD there isn't any end in sight to the format war or whatever you want to call it.

I believe that retailers are going to make the final decisions after this announcement
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Any chance that this was leaked misinformation and that tomorrow at CES Warner will announce that they are really going HD DVD exclusive?

Or is Warner going Blu-ray exclusive a definite now?
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Simply means one less studio that gets my hard earned money. Not going to support an inferior and incomplete format just because another studio would like to muscle me in that direction.

I agree.

Stupid move by WB IMO.
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Blu-ray paid a **** load to Warner for this to happen, which was somehow bad when Paramount took $.

The war is far from over. Wait till Sunday and see what else is announced.

HD DVD is not dead, it's just become niche.


Actually, I think Warner just say the 300 and Harry Potter sales and made a smart business decision.

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I feel like I am the only person here who hates S0ny with a passion.

Oh no, I wish death on them too. It's just not considered gracious to mention that at a time like this.
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Why is everyone expecting Universal and Paramount to go Blu-Ray? I don't see that happening anytime soon, and with those studios still backing HD-DVD there isn't any end in sight to the format war or whatever you want to call it.

From a business standpoint, if they don't switch to BD, they have their heads in the sand. Any new adopter to HD will no doubt pick BD. The HD DVD customer base will have a hard time expanding by offering only Universal and Paramount movies. And the retailers will now devote considerably more space and stock to BD.
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long before i knew anything about hd, or blu-ray, i had sworn to never buy a sony product. i think the entire company is garbage, and has always attempted to get its way through pressure rather than product. they put out inferior product and try to strong-arm everyone into it. just like they've been doing from the beginning with the blu-ray product.

my stance won't change, even after hd dvd is finished. i'll have to find some other way to get hd content.

everyone, get ready to start taking the shaft from blu ray and its companies. we've seen the last $200 player for a long time.
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Why is everyone going to sell their HD DVD collections? Did this announcement suddenly render all your discs unplayable and players unusable? You're honestly going to RE-REBUY (in the case of catalog titles) all of your HD DVDs on Blu-ray?

That might the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Why not keep the discs you already have and oh, I dunno, enjoy them until a dual-format player comes down to a reasonable price?

Yep, keep the HD DVD until a BD version shows up on Half for $5 or something. I have about 60 HD DVD and a XA2 that I plan on keeping. I'll still buy new HD DVD's too from Uni and Paramount.

All this announcement makes me want to do is pony up for a new receiver to take full advantage of the audio on my BD30.

In a way I hope everyone floods Half/Amazon/E-Bay with red cases. There are tons of movies I would like to grab for $5-$10.
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Does this mean the Bourne movies are coming to BR?

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Excellent point......but there may also be an HD firesale.


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Even though I have a BR player, I hate this news. This pretty much spells the end of BR BOGO's for a LONG time.

Now we all get to pay $25 for new releases.

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i think this will play into digital download camp. this will speed up the timetable.
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