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HD-DVD is done folks. They simply cannot compete with all the Blu studio support.

Current Blu Ray titles: Surfs Up, Spider-Man 3, The Rock, Monster House
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I do not own one title on both formats. I have blu in blu exclusive only and they are not up to the quality of my red exclusive or neutral HD DVDs. Plain and simple.

What planet are you from?
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Well, it looks like I'll be returning the A3 HD-DVD player I just bought, and will wait it out for a while to decide what player (if any) I buy next. I have always been format neutral, but finally decided to buy the A3 due to price (I don't have the money atm to buy Blu-Ray). Now I am going to just be happy with my Comcast On Demand hd-movies until there is an actual winner and cheaper prices so I don't end up wasting money. Good thing I can still return my player
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They want this over? Make an offer to replace HD discs with Blu-Ray ones.. that will convert the HD people that want to come over and not have two units.

That is me. I am bothered by this, as an HD only owner, would have been dual if I could afford it. And I am low on HDMI inputs, I got so much junk in my setup now that I really don't want to bother with adding an HDMI switch to add a PS3 (down the road). A dual player would be nice, but way too expensive, and are any of them at least as good as the A2? I assume they are at least, but who knows with bundled crap.

And just cause I am anal, I really don't want to mix HD's and BD's on the shelf. I rather just have everything be the same. Petty I know. =P
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Good news indeed. The sooner this ends the better and I want the superior technology to win. Now I'm wondering what keeps Universal (NBC/GE) in the HD-DVD camp.

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Thank god it's over!

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You paid 98 bucks for a player. Does losing that investment really hurt that much? If so, maybe you shouldn't be an early adapter????

Actually it does hurt. As I posted, I am solidly a middle class consumer and now am around 250 bucks in the hole. I guess you're right that I should think twice about being an early adaptor.

I am now going to quit being an early adaptor when it comes to all things tech. That was kind of the point of my post. Sorry I didn't make it more clear.
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Well, so much for mass adoption of HD media. With HD-DVD essentially out of the game come mid 2008, we can all look forward to DVD to remain the standard until downloadable content replaces it. There is no way the average consumer is going to spend $400 or even $300 for the marginal perceivable benefits of HD media on the average HD display and sound system.

/mourn HD-DVD
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Great...

Now I'll just trash my HD DVD player and put it up on YouTube
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Am I the only one thinking Toshiba and MS's only answer to this is going to be the inclusion of an HD-DVD drive in every 360? That may be their only announcement. If they do that, they're pretty much f*cking over the entire XB brand.


HD DVD won't be used for games, so 360 owners don't have anything to worry about on that end. However, with WB going exclusively to BD, does it even matter? How long before studios shift over to BD, or are they going to play "musical formats", taking bribes from each side?
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So is this the current standings now?

Blu-ray support:
Warner Bros.
Disney (Buena Vista)
Fox
Lionsgate
MGM
Sony Pictures

HD-DVD Support:
Paramount
Universal Studios

Ouch.
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So the real question is this: Is Paramount still bound to their 18 month agreement, or is there an escape clause should something like this happen? As for Universal, I don't see them releasing a blu-ray disc until the last HD-DVD comes off the line.
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I think this is good for the proliferation of HDM. The masses (or maybe the media, who knows?) want one HD disc format and it's going to be blu ray.

Now BD will have Disney (including Buena Vista, Miramax, etc), 20th Century Fox, Sony, Lionsgate, MGM and Warner and HD-DVD only has Univermal and Paramount, which isn't going to last indefinitely like the studios that have agreed to use BD.

This is good because blu ray the winner, people who are holding out don't have to anymore. They can buy a blu ray player, including a PS3 if they desire, with confidence it won't become obsolete soon.

Those of us (like me, I'm format neutral) that have an HD-DVD player/add-on, it's not obsolete because we still have our HD-DVD libraries we can enjoy for the rest of our lives.

Don't see the problem here.
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I agree.

Stupid move by WB IMO.

That's not what the BB rep is going to tell consumers this weekend when they ask about BD.

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I just realized this took a major dump on HDM importing... and a lot of Europeans.

highdef junkie.
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I'm sad to see so many HDDVD supporters so bitter and resentful about their format of choice being defeated. This war was bad for the HiDef industry and I would hope that people here would be mature enough to be able to admit defeat and move on. This format war is over. Embrace the new HiDef standand.
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So what is the studio breakdown between the two formats now? I tried to google but I can't find a breakdown of it.


Major HDDVD studios:

Universal
Paramount/Dreamworks

Major BD studios:

Sony/Columbia/MGM
Fox
Disney/Buena Vista
Warner Brothers/Newline

smaller bd only:

Lionsgate
Starz
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To those HD DVD fans, I say call the Warner Big wigs and voice your displeasure with this announcement:

Warner Bros. Home Ent. Group Jim Noonan, 818-977-5489 or
Warner Bros. Entertainment Susan Fleishman, 818-954-1919 Scott Rowe, 818-954-5806
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I guess the HD DVD camp was aware of the rumor even before today. And who knows, maybe the war is not over for them, maybe they'll have something to announce in the next few days, and who knows what ? Although I find it quite sad as I'm an HD DVD supporter, it doesn't mean the format is dead tomorrow morning either. There will be plenty of great movies on HD DVD this year, and I bet I'll go neutral sooner than I expected as well. AFAIK, HDM is still about 1% of the video market, so I don't think HD DVD is dead yet. HDM is still too small. But of course that's big news, and I would have prefer HD DVD exclusivity.
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REMEMBER GUYS

98% of the market HAS NOT to this point invested in ANY high-definition format.

For all the pissed off HD-DVD owners who will go back to regular DVD, there are 1000x more DVD owners who will now have a CLEAR choice when they decide to step-up to high-definition.
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Simply means one less studio that gets my hard earned money. Not going to support an inferior and incomplete format just because another studio would like to muscle me in that direction.

Ditto. Looks like I'm only buying Paramount and Universal movies from here on out.

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dual format, buying BD for anything that's identical, but HD DVD for those titles (300, HP, etc.) where the red case was the better title with better extras. Here's really hoping that there's no slip to lowest common denominator, and that Warner continues its excellent track record of quality releases.

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Well, the format war is now over. No surprise with this news. Blu Ray has been marketing, advertising like crazy and has almost a dozen players available from numerous manufacturers. I can't think of one reason Warner wouldn't have gone Blu..

All is good in the world of HD today... Blu Ray has the specs, bandwidth and the history of putting out the format for the AV enthusiasts (not for Joe 6 pack).....the most lossless tracks, least number of playback issues, etc..

Now, let's get back to discussing why we don't have DTS MA decoding on any Blu Ray players (yet)!!!!!


I certainly agree with everything but the J6P comment. They still need J6P to formally adopt Blu-ray as the sucessor over SD DVD.
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Good side to this I guess. HD DVD owners that want to have a large collection can pick up titles on the cheap soon.

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I don't think this will hurt HD DVD anymore than Paramount hurt Blu-ray. I still think both formats will be with us for the near future. In the meantime, I'm glad Warner chose a side because I don't want to have to decide which format to buy their films on (I have both).

I don't think you can compare Warner to Paramount.

Warner is the single biggest studio, release wise. No Warner, no format.

Blu-ray could have lost Warner and survived to a draw maybe... but HD-DVD can't survive the loss of Warner.

In 14 months, when their original 18-month contract expires, Paramount will either go back to neutrality or just switch to Blu-ray exclusively.

What's more interesting is the CES possibility of Universal going neutral...
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Stick a fork in HD DVD its done....
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It is unfortunate WB decided to go Blu-Ray only. There is no way I will be picking a Blu-Ray player anytime in the near future.


Sams Club has the Sony S301 for $277 currently. Might help ease the sting a little bit.
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T Id say 6 months tops before Paramount and Universal jump ship as well.

Aren't Paramount and Universal contractually obligated for 18 months starting from last July or August or something?

Seems like they won't move over until that contract is over.
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The only winner here is Sony's FAT now fatter wallet.

I'd say that Sony is actually in the hole now, considering the rumor of how much was paid to Warner. But that'll change when BD pricing starts going up even more.

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Who in there right mind is going to make another dual format player?

I could see LG releasing another generation, to make migration easier for HD DVD owners that don't want to part with their software and only want a single player.

Be a Reality fanboy.
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