That hurt!! Anyway I'm back thin skin and all. Some of you got it, HDTV beats HD disks, or matches them, IMO. Maybe it is the grain, maybe it's the full screen (I do like to have my projector projecting colourful pixels that change colour, rather then dead black ones). And besides that (and this is for you purists) if a director does a movie in 16/9 (1.78) I know I will be happier. With the home theater growing like it is, and the cinemaplex struggling, you never know. I 'm sure they will go where the money is. I just find the PQ on HD disks to be very dark, and even when I compare somthing like CSI or other dark TV shows (don't they have a lighting budget) they are very close in PQ IMO. I was at a friends house today and we were comparing HDTV (How It's Made) to a blu ray disk (Rush Hour 3). Yeah I know, but that's what was on. Sorry guys all 3 of us thought the TV show was better (I can hear the boos and hisses even before I post this), and that was on another system. I have been waiting for a blu ray player that does all the decoding on board, the Denon 3800 looks good. But for that money I would like a large step up in performance. To answer your question on what channels I watch:Oasis, HDNet, Discovery HD, the show Dexter, Rome,CSI, Treasure HD etc. Maybe all my HD DVDs are poor transfer, but the review in DVD Talk on 300 (the movie) they gave it a great video score. I find it dark and lacking in depth and pop. I did take the ISF course and even passed the exam. I do have my setup right and understand the black bars and all that stuff about how the director wants us to see it, but geez! Bars are bars and grain is grain, I like the looking out a window thing. Thats all for now. Let the mummbling begin.