JRiver Media Center on Mac - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 46 Old 06-19-2012, 08:46 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
EDIT -- We've released an audio only Mac Version. More on our forum:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=31.0


I've just started a poll on our site, asking if people are interested in a Mac version.

POLL: Would you buy MC on OS X ?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 46 Old 06-20-2012, 06:15 AM
AVS Special Member
 
dknightd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I probably would. But I don't want to register for you site just to vote.
I think it would be a great idea - certainly itunes can be improved upon.
Step 1 - put in a real database engine so large libraries can be easily handled

Everything I say here is my opinion. It is not my employers opinion, it is not my wife's opinion, it is not my neighbors opinion, it is My Opinion.
dknightd is offline  
post #3 of 46 Old 06-20-2012, 07:33 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Thanks. We think we have the best database available for media files. Here's how it stacks up against iTunes:
http://www.jriver.com/speed.html

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #4 of 46 Old 06-20-2012, 01:59 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Ted Todorov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: NYC, NY USA
Posts: 1,378
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 11
You would get a bunch of Mac customers with one of your features alone: Blu-ray playback, if you can do it directly, without having to transcode/rip the Blu-ray disk first.
Ted Todorov is offline  
post #5 of 46 Old 06-20-2012, 09:59 PM
AVS Special Member
 
grasshoppers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: aridzona
Posts: 1,409
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Liked: 114
if your software was available for Mac,then I would have kept my Mac-mini.
Returned it after 2 weeks due to my frustration at not having a software
Solution such as yours.
grasshoppers is online now  
post #6 of 46 Old 06-21-2012, 08:55 AM
Member
 
Metabolic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 52
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have both PCs AND Macs in my household. The only reason I continue to have PCs is to natively run JRiver Media Center. So yes... I would buy a Mac version of JRiver Media Center in a heartbeat! Please bring it on! smile.gif
Metabolic is offline  
post #7 of 46 Old 06-24-2012, 10:46 AM
Senior Member
 
speedoflight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 399
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 13
Absolutely. But only if it can play Blu-ray iso's from my network server and bitstream the lossless audio to my pre-amp via hdmi.
speedoflight is online now  
post #8 of 46 Old 06-27-2012, 06:40 PM
AVS Special Member
 
sdg4vfx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern CA
Posts: 1,310
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 92
If it could play Blu-ray iso's I would absolutely buy it.

3D Blu-ray iso's and I'd probably even pay you in advance : )

The lossless audio would be nice, but not a deal killer for me.
sdg4vfx is offline  
post #9 of 46 Old 09-22-2012, 08:31 PM
Senior Member
 
greenkiwi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 350
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I'd get it as soon as it was available... just for audio management. Any video solutions would just be gravy.

greenkiwi is offline  
post #10 of 46 Old 02-07-2013, 10:58 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Early Bird Licenses are available now:
http://www.jriver.com/mac.html

Expect First Look (Still Rough) versions by February 22.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #11 of 46 Old 02-10-2013, 12:26 AM
Senior Member
 
geeji's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 337
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote from www.jriver.com :
"6. It will be audio-only for the first year."

I very much doubt many Mac users will pay $49.98 or even $24.98 (Early Bird) just for an iTunes alternative.
Although I would love to see a native replacement for Front Row on OS X, I use it 99% for videos, so your initial version falls short of my goal, sorry.
geeji is offline  
post #12 of 46 Old 02-10-2013, 05:26 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Thanks for the feedback. We intend to add video in the future.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #13 of 46 Old 02-10-2013, 12:48 PM
AVS Special Member
 
qz3fwd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,783
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 25
Better to wait until it is video capable than to release a half baked product into the market and milk customers for a half completed product.

Remember-many mac owners are fully aware that video codec support is one area that OSX falls short on and is the hardest to implement in a paid for product, so luanching a product and asking customers to pony up dollars with the "promise" of it materializing in the future is problematic. How many times have folks here been bit by the un-materialized CE manufacturers promise of future (un-finished) functionality for it only to become vaporware. That behavior out of the industry leaves a bad taste in ones mouth. Remember the saying: "Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me"?
qz3fwd is offline  
post #14 of 46 Old 02-10-2013, 01:02 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Thanks for your advice. We're far enough along, that failure is not an option. We will release a First Look player on February 22.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #15 of 46 Old 02-10-2013, 03:36 PM
AVS Special Member
 
NewOrlnsDukie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,407
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 22
Yeah, without video, don't expect Mac users to buy it.

For me, the only way I'd switch from Plex to JRMC on my OS X machines would be if it offered me something that Plex doesn't.

Namely:

1) Improved playback -- I still feel that MPC-HC w/ MadVR on my Windows HTPC's provides better video playback than Plex on m OSX machines.
2) better music organization with playlists
3) DTS-MA and TrueHD playback -- THIS WOULD BE THE DEAL-MAKER FOR ME. That being said, no one has been able to do this yet.

Get me those 3 things and I'd buy it in a nanosecond.
NewOrlnsDukie is offline  
post #16 of 46 Old 02-20-2013, 08:43 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
We're still on track for a release this Friday. It will be music only, still unfinished, with some bugs left, but it already imports and plays well on 10.7 or above.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #17 of 46 Old 02-22-2013, 07:37 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
An alpha build of JRiver Media Center for Mac is now available on our Mac board:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=31.0

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #18 of 46 Old 02-23-2013, 06:54 AM
Member
 
iGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 148
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I had never heard if this product before. But -

2/21/13 they wrote on their website forum -
Quote:
"PRICE
It's $24.98 at this time. We expect to raise the price by $5 each month until it reaches $49.98. Do not buy it unless you're willing to take a chance. We will not offer refunds."

Paying to try an Alpha build? No thanks.
iGirl is offline  
post #19 of 46 Old 02-23-2013, 07:13 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Sure. Thanks for the feedback.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #20 of 46 Old 02-26-2013, 05:55 AM
Member
 
nycmtber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 71
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I was excited to read about the release for the mac as I'm trying to get my parents on board with the far superior HTPC experience. And then I read it was audio only with lots of bugs. and you have to pay for it.

Sorry but that is pretty ridiculous, in my opinion!

I use Jriver on a windows 7 asrock vision HT and really like it a lot, but still think itunes on the mac is a better music player especially for browsing through a very large library on a tablet or phone app. why would anyone waste their time with jriver on the mac...to play FLAC files?

when you get up to $50 do you plan on having video? I'll continue paying attention to Jriver for the MAC if that is a goal but otherwise will write it off and look elsewhere for my parents.
nycmtber is offline  
post #21 of 46 Old 02-26-2013, 06:34 AM
AVS Club Gold
 
chefklc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,979
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
And then I read it was audio only with lots of bugs. and you have to pay for it. Sorry but that is pretty ridiculous, in my opinion!

It's an alpha release for the cut rate price of $24.98, and JRiver has taken great pains to warn anyone considering it that it will be a long road to an eventual finished product and that even the audio only alphas and betas will not work seamlessly for the first year. That's hardly ridiculous, it's downright gentlemanly and transparent. It's completely up to you whether to support the product and company now. In return for $24.98 you essentially wager that JRiver will continue to develop the product and that eventually you'll get something that rivals the full featured Windows version. If you're not interested in paying $24.98 now and waiting for something that looks like a Mac app should, you can wait and pay $49.98 later. You'll end up in the same place, with the same full featured version; in the former instance JRiver will have earned the interest on your $24.98 for 12 months or so, in the latter you'll have the option to spend $49.98 12 months from now.

There's no way you should consider this for your parents, and the owner of JRiver would probably be the first person to tell you that! If your parents are brand new to HTPC and would like to watch a video, obviously they need something else. Start them off with iTunes and an Apple TV, get them conditioned with baby steps.
Quote:
why would anyone waste their time with jriver on the mac...to play FLAC files?

Supporting FLAC natively will attract some people to JRiver, no doubt. Not me, because my library is ALAC, and there are other very good OS X audio players that already offer FLAC playback plus a whole lot more that work and look like Mac apps should..right now. I suspect a greater hope for JRiver on the audio side is for those who find iTunes a little unwieldy with very large libraries of music because JRiver is both player and manager--it can manage files itself instead of piggybacking on top of iTunes file management like other OS X audio players do. The much greater hope for a JRiver in OS X around here is that it can eventually do what the Windows version can with audio AND video, in other words that it can eventually supplant XBMC or Plex.

Some people like getting in on the ground floor of a product, helping to work through bugs and suggesting changes. Think of paying $24.98 right now for a JRiver OS X version like it is a kickstarter campaign...you're being asked to invest in a product to help get it off the ground with the full knowledge that it might not turn out to be what you want it to be.
chefklc is online now  
post #22 of 46 Old 02-26-2013, 07:30 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
chefklc,
Great post. Thanks. You've said it better than I could.

nycmtber,
Here are a few reasons people seem interested in our Mac version.

1. Apple supports Apple formats and a few others. JRiver supports almost all audio formats.

2. We have a very strong audiophile following. Many of them use Mac's. More here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audiophile_Info

3. JRiver Media Center is significantly faster than iTunes.
http://jriver.com/speed.html

4. DLNA -- the Mac version doesn't yet support it, but it will soon.

5. DSD -- a high end audio format. JRiver is a leader here. More about DSD:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DSD_Format

And so on ...

I don't expect you to bet on JRiver. I just wanted to give you an idea of why some people have. And for that, we are extremely grateful.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #23 of 46 Old 03-02-2013, 02:05 PM
wse
AVS Special Member
 
wse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 6,285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 105 Post(s)
Liked: 279

I bought it and it sucks :(

 

Maybe it will get better, crashed my computer several times :( MacBook Retina display, Processor  2.7 GHz Intel Core i7 16GB Ram, 750GB of SSD!

 

I sure hope there will be substantial improvement otherwise I waisted $25!!!

wse is offline  
post #24 of 46 Old 03-02-2013, 02:52 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Are you using this build?
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=78632.0

There were a few crashes on earlier builds.

If you still see a problem, please post the details on our forum.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #25 of 46 Old 03-02-2013, 03:32 PM
wse
AVS Special Member
 
wse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 6,285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 105 Post(s)
Liked: 279
Quote:
Originally Posted by jriver View PostAre you using this build? http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=78632.0

There were a few crashes on earlier builds. If you still see a problem, please post the details on our forum.

 

I did and it froze the laptop, I will wait until next month, also the interface is way to WINDOWS for me thanks. :(

 

Is there a manual it seems very counter intuitive to many other software I have used!

wse is offline  
post #26 of 46 Old 03-03-2013, 04:37 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
I don't think we have had that problem reported by anyone else. I have a Retina and it runs fine on it.

If you had a lot of files, it might take some time to import. You could try modifying the import settings under Tools/Import/Auto Import. Choose a folder and edit it. Import only a single file type and only one directory with just a few files.

Try letting it go for a couple of hours if your library is large.

Follow the Support link on our site to find out your options.

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #27 of 46 Old 03-03-2013, 10:02 AM
wse
AVS Special Member
 
wse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 6,285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 105 Post(s)
Liked: 279
Quote:
Originally Posted by jriver View Post

I don't think we have had that problem reported by anyone else. I have a Retina and it runs fine on it.

If you had a lot of files, it might take some time to import. You could try modifying the import settings under Tools/Import/Auto Import. Choose a folder and edit it. Import only a single file type and only one directory with just a few files.

Try letting it go for a couple of hours if your library is large.

Follow the Support link on our site to find out your options.

I have 550 CDs and about 50 HD files 24/192!

 

what is the link?

wse is offline  
post #28 of 46 Old 03-03-2013, 10:30 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,429
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 16
The 55 CD's (about 5500 files) aren't the problem, but it's possible one of the HD files is.

What format are the files you're using?

Here's support:
http://www.jriver.com/support.html

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
post #29 of 46 Old 03-03-2013, 12:01 PM
wse
AVS Special Member
 
wse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 6,285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 105 Post(s)
Liked: 279

Flac for high resolution

wse is offline  
post #30 of 46 Old 03-06-2013, 12:03 PM
Member
 
nycmtber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 71
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
still wondering if video is an eventual goal?

FWIW, my MC18 is constantly crashing on my windows 7 machine recently...slowly getting worse and worse. lagging when browsing and constant restarts required~!
nycmtber is offline  
Reply HTPC - Mac Chat

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off