Originally Posted by Ted Todorov
I am not sure why there is so much hostility towards the PC guys who want to run Windows on a Mac Mini for HTPC purposes. If am ever forced to boot camp (or Parallel) my way into Windows to run some godforsaken piece of Windows only software (like during the World Cup I had an XP partition on my Mini, since erased, because the Verizon/ESPN thingy I was using to watch the games over the internet was Windoze only.)
Sure I was on the side of the Mac people in the AppleTV thread, and sure I think it is absurd to have M$ fans coming into this forum to tell us how much better MCE is, but I see nothing wrong with the occasional Windows on Mac thread.
If you look at the newly created Mac forum on HTF, which happened because Ron Epstein got a MacPro, many of the recent converts, including Ron, only bought Macs because of the security blanket of being able to run XP or Vista under parallels, and are still running Windows versions of absurd things ranging from MS Office, to Solitaire, to Konfabulator widgets (for heaven's sake!). Obviously, since they are loving OS X, they will soon discover that OS X offers all of the above, and it is better under OS X.
By welcoming hesitant Windows users to the Mac platform, we can in the long run convert many more people, which is good for all of us, as more and better software will be written for a more popular platform. Many of those MCE on Mini guys will sooner or later run into the usual Windows disasters, and instead of re-installing for the Nth time, they will switch to OS X and forget about it.
Nice post Ted.
I find the problems is not so much topics, but the attitudes of the Windows posters when they come into the Mac forum. I have a real problem with the missionary, out to save the unwashed Mac users, approach. And as Ted mentions above, Apple's strategy with Boot Camp, and in supporting Parallels, is to allow PC users an easy avenue to the Mac Way. And for me, having XP on my MacBook in Parallels is a necessity for a few applications I need that aren't written in OS X, for web development testing, and for providing some minimal amount of XP support.
Technically, running XP in Parallels is running OS X. Running in Boot Camp isn't. But with the new Parallels out of beta, you can run XP from a Boot Camp partition, so the water is muddied. I think that with the increased virtualization development, and the development of Coherance in Parallels, that it will become harder and harder to distinguish between where OS X ends, and XP/Vista pick up. And eventually, as virtualization comes to the PC, the problem may head the other direction, as Parallels has already said they have the technology to provide PC support for virtualizing OS X, but that they don't choose to alienate Apple by doing so at this time. So the lines between the two platforms are blurring, and that's ok in my mind.
Where the problem is, is that the blurring also mixes the user groups in ways that aren't always conducive to good communication. I have found that even things like the "I'm a Mac" tv commercials, and Apple PR
market-speak tends to really piss off some Windows users, and their attitude towards Apple is misdirected towards Apple users in these, and other forums elsewhere. It's really unfortunate, but true. People do odd things when they are subtly threatened. And that is what Apple's campaign has done to many Windows users. It brings the bully out in some individuals.
So what I would advise is that Alan Gouger's sticky at the beginning of this forum be clarified, as it is written in a fairly murky manner. And I would add to it a statement to the effect that the missionary zeal of Windows users, and the Windows attitude against those who choose to use Mac hardware and OS X be parked at the entrance door. Then we can have civil debate.