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I don't think there's any reason we shouldn't keep track of those. Some people may need them.

If we do keep track of those, I think it would be good to have a separate category for them, since we mostly care about translated-to-English subtitles.
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So you watched the Hong Kong version? No thought not.
As well as English it has a whole bunch of different language sub options.
I was under the impression people were naming all BR with subs in & out of the pic, the last thing i expected to see was someone complaining but hey!

I understand what you are saying - but the different available language sub options (some discs have as many as 16-17) needs to be covered in a separate thread. Maybe you can start one?
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I understand what you are saying - but the different available language sub options (some discs have as many as 16-17) needs to be covered in a separate thread. Maybe you can start one?

Iv no idea what you are talking about. Thread title "Cih subtitle master thread", as its not specific to what language i assume its English and then everything else, subs placed in or out of the "CIH".
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I understand what you are saying - but the different available language sub options (some discs have as many as 16-17) needs to be covered in a separate thread. Maybe you can start one?

Instead of covering each and every subtitle track per disc, would it be adequate to have these 2 categories?

1. English translation subtitles.
2. Non-English subtitles and English "hard of hearing" subtitles.
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Iv no idea what you are talking about. Thread title "Cih subtitle master thread", as its not specific to what language i assume its English and then everything else, subs placed in or out of the "CIH".

The original thought behind this thread was regarding subtitles that are used to decipher an Alien or foreign language "on-screen." And these subtitles would have been included on Theatrical release prints. We were not thinking of subtitles added for home video release (English translation) or hard of hearing. I do understand the need for this information - I was just suggesting the use of a second thread for that purpose. Maybe we shouldn't have called this thread "master" as it might be confusing.
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Instead of covering each and every subtitle track per disc, would it be adequate to have these 2 categories?

1. English translation subtitles.
2. Non-English subtitles and English "hard of hearing" subtitles.

Yes. Great idea. (for another thread)
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'Seven Pounds' Blu-ray. Has one long scene in Spanish. Subtitles one line in the picture, one line in the letterbox bar.

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'Seven Pounds' Blu-ray. Has one long scene in Spanish. Subtitles one line in the picture, one line in the letterbox bar.

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Greetings,

"A mighty heart" has the subtitles IN the picture area.


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This particular thread is only going to be for ENGLISH language subs. This might be a foreign language film, a film with a foreign language spoken in some scenes or something like Star Wars that translates alien languages. I WILL NOT be adding movies based on where a German or Chinese or Spanish or (insert a foreign language) subtitle appears in the frame. Someone else can start a thread for that.
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In the Blu-ray Software forum, poster Partyslammer is reporting that the Quantum of Solace Blu-ray has the original theatrical burned-in subtitles in the picture during foreign-language scenes. That's a rarity for Sony.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=116

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I pray that is true Josh. That would be great news indeed.
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I noticed that as well! Look here for screen caps from the film including subtitles IN the picture (post 994 - "You only buy cheap wine?"):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...935620&page=34

GREAT news indeed
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The original thought behind this thread was regarding subtitles that are used to decipher an Alien or foreign language "on-screen." And these subtitles would have been included on Theatrical release prints. We were not thinking of subtitles added for home video release (English translation) or hard of hearing. I do understand the need for this information - I was just suggesting the use of a second thread for that purpose. Maybe we shouldn't have called this thread "master" as it might be confusing.

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This particular thread is only going to be for ENGLISH language subs. This might be a foreign language film, a film with a foreign language spoken in some scenes or something like Star Wars that translates alien languages. I WILL NOT be adding movies based on where a German or Chinese or Spanish or (insert a foreign language) subtitle appears in the frame. Someone else can start a thread for that.

I give up.
You have not added "The Matrix" HK version, English subs in and out of the pic, and with that goodbye and good luck.
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I give up.
You have not added "The Matrix" HK version, English subs in and out of the pic, and with that goodbye and good luck.

Please enlighten me since I don't want to piss anyone off. Is the HK version of Matrix for English subs throughout or are there other languages spoken that have English subs for only particular scenes. I have not watched The Matrix in a LONG time so I can't remember. I was thinking that we were talking about the film being in English and the subtitles being in Mandarin or something. It sounds like I was mistaken (wouldn't be the first time). It has been added.
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'Synecdoche, New York' Blu-ray -- Subtitles for foreign language scenes in the picture. That's two in a row from Sony!

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iirc The Matrix is completely in english without the need of forced subs, so it is irrelevant to this thread
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iirc The Matrix is completely in english without the need of forced subs, so it is irrelevant to this thread

Thanks!! I have removed Matrix from the list
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Just watched THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. Subtitles IN the picture
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Just watched "Quantum of Solace" Blu-ray. As we thought - subtitles IN the picture.

Also - re: my previous post (THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH) - I watched the BD.
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Quantum of Solace has excellent subtitles! They get the blue ribbon as far as I'm concerned for discs I've seen this year. It's a Sony title but at least where I live it's distributed by Fox, is that why they got the subs right?

Two Blu-ray discs I just looked at

Mad Detective (UK release) OUT (half in half out of picture)
GOMORRAH (UK release) IN (all subs are scope friendly)
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I'm going to be out of town for about a week so if you post a title to be added to the list, it will be a few days for me to update the main post.
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Seven Pounds BD. Sony/Columbia. Subtitles in the black bar (thankfully not a film I would want to add to my collection anyway)

Good news is that it's only a 3 minute scene. Funny - many times a single line of sub would appear in the picture area (when there were two lines of text). Giving just enough info to kinda understand what was being said. So much so that my wife didn't realize there were missing lines of text
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Mr. & Mrs. Smith has subtitles in the picture

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Independence Day [ID4] has subtitles in the picture area.

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Just noticed our own Joshua Zyber who reviews BD's over at High-Def Digest is mentioning whether or not new titles are CIH subtitle safe.

Quote from recent The World Is Not Enough BD review:

"The film has some brief Russian dialog. Non-removable English subtitles for these scenes are burned into the image and appear entirely within the 2.35:1 movie picture, making them safe for Constant Image Height projection."
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Nice

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Just watched THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL (2008). Subtitles IN the picture
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I just finished that too. It's only a short scene, but it is crucial. I can't say the movie was good but at least it had D-Box codes, so it wasn't a total loss. And it was better than The Happening!!
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