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A state of the art optical device like an ISCO III (or even my own MK4) is hardly "electronic", so does not have a "3 month half life". These anamorphic lenses are one off investments that won't ever need to be upgraded unless the required horizontal magnification changes from the current 1.33x.



Bring 'em on. I am really looking to replace my BenQ W5000 with something LED that is 3D ready. I just don't feel like being an early adopter this time round

My point exactly. A lifetime investment. As far as projectors go, my w5k's board is failing. So I'm afraid that a new purchase will be mandatory shortly.
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My point exactly. A lifetime investment. As far as projectors go, my w5k's board is failing. So I'm afraid that a new purchase will be mandatory shortly.

Really? What symptoms? Mine did an odd thing at just over 1000 hours. powered up, except no noise ((iris opening) and no light, well I got the BenQ logo, then it went dark. Immediately I though the lamp had failed and after two more failed attempts, I turned it off at the main power. I then powered it back up and it hasn't missed a beat since.

I want LED and a 3D machine would be nice too and why the Vango is looking quite appealing at this time

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I want LED and a 3D machine would be nice too and why the Vango is looking quite appealing at this time

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I want LED and a 3D machine would be nice too and why the Vango is looking quite appealing at this time

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I will make sure I give you my impressions.

Will be waiting. Oh and pics too please with the lens in front(This is a cylindrical thread)

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Really? What symptoms? Mine did an odd thing at just over 1000 hours. powered up, except no noise ((iris opening) and no light, well I got the BenQ logo, then it went dark. Immediately I though the lamp had failed and after two more failed attempts, I turned it off at the main power. I then powered it back up and it hasn't missed a beat since.

I want LED and a 3D machine would be nice too and why the Vango is looking quite appealing at this time

I've had the Dark Start problem several times. No big deal, just restart. No, the problem I'm having is after 1-2 hours of it being on the picture vignettes and you have a striped picture. To illustrate, imagine cut the pic into 5 vertical stripes and then arrange them out of order. The remedy is to shutdown and restart. Several owners have this problem show up at about 1200-1500 hours. I'm at 1700+ and have had the FP for 26 months. The DMD board replacement is $550-$600, plus I need a new lamp so needless to say I'll run till she blows then trash it. Unacceptable life span, if you ask me.
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WOW and not cool. I've not seen any of the other faults you've said, just that one time.

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I was lucky enough for my wife to give me the OK in putting the projector in the other room where my gear is in also took some time but I got the OK at the end.

But what I want to know the further back I go is it better especially when your doing anamorphic? The projector will be in the room behind me with the lens coming out through the wall quite a bit like Art has it( Sorry Art I liked your idea had to borrow it). The room is not big at all.

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I just want to know before I start cutting a hole in the wall.

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Same projector? Yes as a rule of thumb, the further back you can get the projector, the better the end result. I too "borrowed" Arts "booth" idea and I would never go back to a traditional ceiling mount.

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I've had the Dark Start problem several times. No big deal, just restart. No, the problem I'm having is after 1-2 hours of it being on the picture vignettes and you have a striped picture. To illustrate, imagine cut the pic into 5 vertical stripes and then arrange them out of order. The remedy is to shutdown and restart. Several owners have this problem show up at about 1200-1500 hours. I'm at 1700+ and have had the FP for 26 months. The DMD board replacement is $550-$600, plus I need a new lamp so needless to say I'll run till she blows then trash it. Unacceptable life span, if you ask me.

You're not alone mate, I've had 3 customers to date with exact same problem. Nobody saw this coming, just hope the W6000 doesn't do the same!
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Same projector? Yes as a rule of thumb, the further back you can get the projector, the better the end result. I too "borrowed" Arts "booth" idea and I would never go back to a traditional ceiling mount.

Same projector just going back. But looking at the list I got from schneiders website it's definitely a good idea I go back. But also looks much tidier

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Same projector just going back. But looking at the list I got from schneiders website it's definitely a good idea I go back. But also looks much tidier

I think the (booth) rear wall and port is the one thing that differentiates home cinema from a home theatre

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I think the (booth) rear wall and port is the one thing that differentiates home cinema from a home theatre

Well hopefully next week or the week after.

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Well hopefully next week or the week after.

Very cool, so a full wall or part wall? Mine is really a false part wall, however it certainly does the job it was meant to do.

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Very cool, so a full wall or part wall? Mine is really a false part wall, however it certainly does the job it was meant to do.

It will be a rectangle peice cut off. I think if I remember 200mm in height and 300mm in length.

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I like the idea of an AT screen with no speakers on view and a pj in a projection 'booth' so the room has a very clean look to it. With the pj further back you generally get better on/off contrast performance and less pin cushion (compared to closer with the same screen), so if lumens aren't an issue, you definitely benefit. Plus of course, the noise and heat generated by the pj don't end up in the room with you.

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Same projector? Yes as a rule of thumb, the further back you can get the projector, the better the end result. I too "borrowed" Arts "booth" idea and I would never go back to a traditional ceiling mount.

Where do we see Arts booth?
I would like to do this for my new house, finally a dedicated HT room.
Would be nice to have a thread with just pix of this type of setup, anyone want to start?
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I think the (booth) rear wall and port is the one thing that differentiates home cinema from a home theatre

Mark, I'm curious as to why? what if the projector cannot be back far enough because of the throw to screen size? So anyone with a 'booth'.... has a real 'theatre' whereas everyone else who uses a ceiling mount (98% of people) only has a 'home cinema'? Which, by your comment seems to suggest it's not as good or inferior..?? Or did you mean something else by that?
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I like the idea of an AT screen with no speakers on view and a pj in a projection 'booth' so the room has a very clean look to it. With the pj further back you generally get better on/off contrast performance and less pin cushion (compared to closer with the same screen), so if lumens aren't an issue, you definitely benefit. Plus of course, the noise and heat generated by the pj don't end up in the room with you.

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Unless your room is really cold and you want to use the PJ as a heater
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Unless your room is really cold and you want to use the PJ as a heater

Sounds like a plan - ducting maybe?

My last theatre was a loft, and in the winter I used to put a heater on before we went up there, so the pj would be quite useful in that respect, but in the summer it had the opposite effect. I was thinking of doing something about that but then I moved..

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You're not alone mate, I've had 3 customers to date with exact same problem. Nobody saw this coming, just hope the W6000 doesn't do the same!

That's terrible. I'm not saying I'll never buy their product again but if this was a car/truck there would be a recall. After all the problems with firmware during the first year they should fix it out of warranty.
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If I wasn't so close to upgrading, I'd have a big problem with it.
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Mark, I'm curious as to why? what if the projector cannot be back far enough because of the throw to screen size? So anyone with a 'booth'.... has a real 'theatre' whereas everyone else who uses a ceiling mount (98% of people) only has a 'home cinema'? Which, by your comment seems to suggest it's not as good or inferior..?? Or did you mean something else by that?

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I think the (booth) rear wall and port is the one thing that differentiates home cinema from a home theatre

There are MANY things that differentiate a home cinema from a home theatre. A room that comes to mind is one I got to work in on the Gold Coast (back in 2002) that sported over $200,000 of gear. This room in my honest opinion was poorly designed given the budget. There was no room treatments (odd given the main L and R speakers cost $40,000 on their own), light control was poor and so that room will only ever be a "home theatre" at best. To be a little course, it is a glorified surround set up.

The booth's main purpose (apart from a "cool look") is about keeping noise from mechanical devices like projector fans and PC servers out of the room. Ideally, the port would also have iron free glass fitted as well.

If you look at what THX stipulates in a room design to get their certification for Home Cinema, every room should have an AT screen as well as full room treatments.

So given more people have flat panels than have front projection, my comment, whilst seemingly discriminatory, is actually correct.

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Where do we see Arts booth?
I would like to do this for my new house, finally a dedicated HT room.
Would be nice to have a thread with just pix of this type of setup, anyone want to start?

I think ART has a link to his signature.

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If I had to change projector will I still benefit being further back? What do I have to take into consideration eg lumens

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I like the idea of an AT screen with no speakers on view and a pj in a projection 'booth' so the room has a very clean look to it. With the pj further back you generally get better on/off contrast performance and less pin cushion (compared to closer with the same screen), so if lumens aren't an issue, you definitely benefit. Plus of course, the noise and heat generated by the pj don't end up in the room with you.

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Same Gary but I built my house 10 years ago before HT was a popular thing among many householders in Western Australia. I had a dedicated room but I was lucky I built a storage room right behind it. Who knew that would come in handy.

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If I had to change projector will I still benefit being further back? What do I have to take into consideration eg lumens

Will you be going to a larger screen? If not, I would suggest that you will still have a sufficiently bright image.

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Will you be going to a larger screen? If not, I would suggest that you will still have a sufficiently bright image.

Same size screen

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I think ART has a link to his signature.

Now how do I find threads by "Art" dont find them in here?

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Now how do I find threads by "Art" dont find them in here?

I want to see pix of booths

He's around in different threads.

Btw I'm interested to know does he move his lens when watching 16x9 or does he keep it in place?

GetGray might know that one.

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