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Here is a little preview of a new hi performance cylinder lens about to hit the market from a proven manufacture. Everyone will be very happy with its cost.
Nothing has been spared in the design & manufacturing of this lens. Stay tuned.

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Cool! The shape of the case seems reminiscent of Prismasonic's prism-based models, of course minus the knobs

Whoever makes it, I can't wait to read some more about it!

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Maybe Prismasonic is going the same route as Mark Techer of CAVX?
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From the picture I literally make out its HD6000.
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But does it use fluorite?
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But does it use fluorite?

We'll have to get JD on the case.
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Should have titanium screws too. Absolutely essential, with rare earth coatings. I read somewhere that Canon use them.
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Well, no one can argue that CIH devotees have a lack of choice when it comes to what HE lens they want to buy!

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But does it use fluorite?

thats classic

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Looks a bit like a very well made welder's mask, but I guess you don't sit looking at the lens when you're watching a film.

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Looks like a Prismasonic:



Similar case and stand. Is it Alan?

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but I guess you don't sit looking at the lens when you're watching a film.

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But does it use fluorite?

It uses a material called "RoyalLite". They used it to make suitcases in the 1950's. Oh and Robby The Robbot in Forbidden Planet. See? A very futuristic material indeed

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Here is a little preview of a new hi performance cylinder lens about to hit the market from a proven manufacture. Everyone will be very happy with its cost.
Nothing has been spared in the design & manufacturing of this lens. Stay tuned.

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How long before released Alan?

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How long before released Alan?

This is coming from "Prismasonic" and while they are optimistically shooting for the holiday season I always expect these things could go out a little further. I am excited for this one for several reasons but more to come soon.
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This is coming from "Prismasonic" and while they are optimistically shooting for the holiday season I always expect these things could go out a little further. I am excited for this one for several reasons but more to come soon.

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Nice looking lens. And a much better mount than the $8k one offered by Schneider via Dreamvision.
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That's not Schneider's mount, I can assure you.
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...judging from the two slots, it looks like another coin operated lens. Good news, only $499.95 up front; bad news 50 cents for 15 minutes stretch time.

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That's not Schneider's mount, I can assure you.

I agree schnieder only has two at the moment that I know of.

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Alan posted this lens at Under 3K Projector forum and based on his comments this lens should go for 3K or less. I am excited !! competition is good
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I agree schnieder only has two at the moment that I know of.

Three for all I know: Kino-Linear (motorized slide mount) Kino-Torsion (motorized swivel mount), and Kino-Torsion Manual (manual swivel mount).

This is what Schneider's least expensive mount looks like:



https://www.schneideroptics.com/ecom...=1388&IID=7053
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That's not Schneider's mount, I can assure you.

That pix was lifted from the Dreamvision website. See also Tom Norton's review of the Dreamvision Starlight1 w/this lens in the October 2010 Home Theater mag.

I thought it was pretty cheesy for a Schneider lens and commented as such in this post in the Cylindrical A-Lens subforum.
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Alan posted this lens at Under 3K Projector forum and based on his comments this lens should go for 3K or less.

Yeah and he also posted this in the $20K+ with the same blurb.

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Three for all I know: Kino-Linear (motorized slide mount) Kino-Torsion (motorized swivel mount), and Kino-Torsion Manual (manual swivel mount).

This is what Schneider's least expensive mount looks like:



https://www.schneideroptics.com/ecom...=1388&IID=7053

Didnt even know they had the manual swivel mount thanks Peter.

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Alan posted this lens at Under 3K Projector forum and based on his comments this lens should go for 3K or less. I am excited !! competition is good

If that is the price that is very cheap. Looking forward to read about it's performance.

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Not sure if the URL link will work (not good at this) but if it does, here is an image of the new Schneider lens with motorized Kino Torsion that will go for $4500. I imagine when used with the manual bracket it will cost much less.
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Not sure if the URL link will work (not good at this) but if it does, here is an image of the new Schneider lens with motorized Kino Torsion that will go for $4500. I imagine when used with the manual bracket it will cost much less.

That's a very good price. Looks like there is a good choice to choose from.

We know have 4 good lenses at great prices.

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If that is the price that is very cheap. Looking forward to read about it's performance.

Let's hope the price is that good?
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Price is right. Performace is yet to bee seen. If it's as good as their glass lenses, they may as well shut down the glass grinding division in Germany. Since I dont' see that as a business model for them, the question will be, how much worse is it, and how will the quaility be from lens to lens. It was introduced over a year ago and is still not in production. That begs the question why not? It can't be becasue they had problems with the mechanicals, they have those designs down pat. Only one other component could be the issue. Which concerns me.

What will be interesting is the choice between an incumbents foray into a new-for-them technology (moulded plastic lenses) vs. the other new options coming from 3 different sources (CAVX, AB, and Prismasonic) that are all ground glass. We shall see.
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