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I have ordered a JVC RS40 projector and hopefully will be getting it in the next month-and-a-half or so.

I am planning to get a Panamorph UH480, for a nice 2.35:1 setup. I am looking at the MTH1 manual transport. My projector will be ceiling-mounted, on a fairly common mount, probably the Chief RPA.

My question is this : How does the Paramorph normally mount together with the projector ? Is it attached to the Chief RPA, or does it mount with/on the projector ?

Should I wait for the JVC RS40 to be out there and be looking for a JVC-specific mounting plate for the lens, or am I looking for a mounting plate that attaches to a Chief RPA ? If the later is correct, then I guess I can order the lens now and not worry about it fitting with my projector. Right ?
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You do know that you cant go CIH in 3D with these first generation projectors, right? It will work in 2D fine, but there are no re-sizing controls when a 3D source is detected.

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I'm not a big fan of 3D anyways - I'm getting the RS40 for the extra brightness and better contrast ratio (I was in the market for an RS15 late this summer but decided to wait for the new gen).
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I have ordered a JVC RS40 projector and hopefully will be getting it in the next month-and-a-half or so.

I am planning to get a Panamorph UH480, for a nice 2.35:1 setup. I am looking at the MTH1 manual transport. My projector will be ceiling-mounted, on a fairly common mount, probably the Chief RPA.

My question is this : How does the Paramorph normally mount together with the projector ? Is it attached to the Chief RPA, or does it mount with/on the projector ?

Should I wait for the JVC RS40 to be out there and be looking for a JVC-specific mounting plate for the lens, or am I looking for a mounting plate that attaches to a Chief RPA ? If the later is correct, then I guess I can order the lens now and not worry about it fitting with my projector. Right ?

You can mount the lens/slide in front of the PJ directly to the ceiling/shelf, or you can use the attachment plate that Panamorph sells. The plate will set you back $500-$600 IIRC, so it depends on how elegant of a solution you want. However as long as you align the lens with the projector lens properly, there's generally no need for an attachment plate.

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You do know that you cant go CIH in 3D with these first generation projectors, right? It will work in 2D fine, but there are no re-sizing controls when a 3D source is detected.

If he has a Lumagen XE he will be able to But even barring CIH capability in 3D, there's not a lot of 'scope stuff out there in 3D, and even less that's worth watching. The 3D thing would certainly not be enough to dissuade me from going CIH.

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Thank you HogPilot - just the answer I was looking for

My thinking would probably favor having the lens separately mounted on the ceiling as you are suggesting I guess - if only to keep the balance of the projector's weight on its mount's gimbal.

Again, thanks for you time.
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I would strongly suggest mounting the UH480 lens to the ceiling separately from the projector. The lens is heavy, and significantly changes the center of gravity of the projector such that, in my case, it became far more sensitive to the vibrations of family members walking about above my theater room.

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... But even barring CIH capability in 3D, there's not a lot of 'scope stuff out there in 3D, and even less that's worth watching. The 3D thing would certainly not be enough to dissuade me from going CIH.

This is not an accurate statement. I've seen it repeated over in the RS40 thread and it's simply not true.

Of the current 3D BD titles ~50% are scope (2.35 or 2.40), the next 25% are 1.85 and the remainder are 1.78.
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This is not an accurate statement. I've seen it repeated over in the RS40 thread and it's simply not true.

Of the current 3D BD titles ~50% are scope (2.35 or 2.40), the next 25% are 1.85 and the remainder are 1.78.

Not quite.

Italicized = 2D to 3D conversion
Red = available on a future date
Bold = exclusive to CEM, not available for individual retail purchase

All announced and available 'scope BD 3D titles:

Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs
Clash of the Titans
Monster House
A Christmas Carol (Nov 16)
The Polar Express (Nov 16)
The Last Airbender (Nov 16)
Despicable Me (Dec 7)
Piranha (Dec 27)

Monsters vs. Aliens
How to Train Your Dragon


All announced and available 1.85:1/1.78:1 BD 3D titles:

My Bloody Valentine
IMAX: Dinosaurs Alive! (Nov 2)
IMAX: Wild Ocean
(Nov 2)
IMAX: Grand Canyon Adventure (Nov 2)
Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore
IMAX: Deep Sea
(Nov 16)
IMAX: Under the Sea (Nov 16)
IMAX: Space Station (Nov 16)
Open Season (Nov 16)
Magic Borneo (Nov 16)
Magic Costa Rica (Nov 16)
2010 FIFA World Cup Film (Nov 16)
Alice in Wonderland (Dec 7)
Step Up (Dec 21)
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Coraline
IMAX: Into the Deep
IMAX: Galapagos
IMAX: Mummies: Secrets of the Pharaos
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Not quite.

Italicized = 2D to 3D conversion
Red = available on a future date
Bold = exclusive to CEM, not available for individual retail purchase

All announced and available 'scope BD 3D titles:

Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs
Clash of the Titans
Monster House
A Christmas Carol (Nov 16)
The Last Airbender (Nov 16)
Despicable Me (Dec 7)
Piranha (Dec 27)


All announced and available 1.85:1/1.78:1 BD 3D titles:

My Bloody Valentine
IMAX: Dinosaurs Alive! (Nov 2)
IMAX: Wild Ocean
(Nov 2)
IMAX: Grand Canyon Adventure (Nov 2)
Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore
The Polar Express (Nov 16)
IMAX: Deep Sea
(Nov 16)
IMAX: Under the Sea (Nov 16)
IMAX: Space Station (Nov 16)
Open Season (Nov 16)
Magic Borneo (Nov 16)
Magic Costa Rica (Nov 16)
2010 FIFA World Cup Film (Nov 16)
Alice in Wonderland (Dec 7)
Step Up (Dec 21)
Monsters vs. Aliens
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Coraline
How to Train Your Dragon
IMAX: Into the Deep
IMAX: Galapagos
IMAX: Mummies: Secrets of the Pharaos
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I stand by my original statement.

Polar Express is 2.40:1

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Polar Express is 2.40:1

As is Monsters vs. Aliens and How to Train Your Dragon.

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Polar Express is 2.40:1

Actually, according to IMDB, we're both wrong. The 3D version was released in IMAX digital at 2.00:1, only the 2D version was released in scope.

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As is Monsters vs. Aliens and How to Train Your Dragon.

Again, the only 3D releases were IMAX (1.44:1) and 1.85:1. IMDB mentions nothing about 'scope 3D. Only 2D was 'scope.

Before anyone gets butthurt over me stating the obvious, I'm certainly not insinuating that 3D is the beginning of the end for 'scope (or anything else equallly ridiculous). I am pointing out that, although an anamorphic stretch feature is not included in any low- or mid-priced 3D projectors this generation, it's not really that big of a deal since most 3D material isn't in 'scope. If it IS that big of a deal to you, you can always get a Lumagen Radiance XE or XS, which will be able to perform all of its video processing functions (including anamorphic stretch) on all current 3D signals.

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Again, the only 3D releases were IMAX (1.44:1) and 1.85:1. IMDB mentions nothing about 'scope 3D. Only 2D was 'scope.

I saw both Monsters Vs Aliens (Dolby 3D) and How To Train Your Dragon (Real D) at the cinema. Both were scope, though neither used an anamorphic lens.

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I saw both Monsters Vs Aliens (Dolby 3D) and How To Train Your Dragon (Real D) at the cinema. Both were scope, though neither used an anamorphic lens.

Although IMDB is reporting the 3D AR at 1.85:1, Blu-Ray.com is showing that both BD releases are 2.35:1. Original post has been edited.

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Not quite.

Italicized = 2D to 3D conversion
Red = available on a future date
Bold = exclusive to CEM, not available for individual retail purchase

All announced and available 'scope BD 3D titles:

Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs
Clash of the Titans
Monster House
A Christmas Carol (Nov 16)
The Polar Express (Nov 16)
The Last Airbender (Nov 16)
Despicable Me (Dec 7)
Piranha (Dec 27)

Monsters vs. Aliens
How to Train Your Dragon


All announced and available 1.85:1/1.78:1 BD 3D titles:

My Bloody Valentine
IMAX: Dinosaurs Alive! (Nov 2)
IMAX: Wild Ocean
(Nov 2)
IMAX: Grand Canyon Adventure (Nov 2)
Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore
IMAX: Deep Sea
(Nov 16)
IMAX: Under the Sea (Nov 16)
IMAX: Space Station (Nov 16)
Open Season (Nov 16)
Magic Borneo (Nov 16)
Magic Costa Rica (Nov 16)
2010 FIFA World Cup Film (Nov 16)
Alice in Wonderland (Dec 7)
Step Up (Dec 21)
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Coraline
IMAX: Into the Deep
IMAX: Galapagos
IMAX: Mummies: Secrets of the Pharaos
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I stand by my original statement.

And how many of those were actual theatrical releases? Here's my list:
Toy Story 3 3D AR-1.77
IMAX Releases AR-1.77
Polar Express AR-1.77
Avatar 3D (assuming 1.77AR)
Alice in Wonderland 3D AR1.77

Open Season 3D AR-1.85
My Bloody Valentine 3D AR-1.85
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs 3D AR-1.85
Coraline 3D AR-1.85
Despicable Me 3D AR-1.85

How to Train Your Dragon 3D AR-2.35
Disney's A Christmas Carol 3D AR-2.40
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 3D AR-2.35
Monsters vs. Aliens 3D AR-2.35
Friday the 13th, Part 3 3D AR-2.35
Clash of Titans Blu-ray 3D AR-2.40
Monster House 3D AR-2.40
Piranha 3D AR-2.35

AR >=2.35: 8 titles
AR = 1.85: 5 titles
AR = 1.78: 5 titles

I only give IMAX one line as it's unfair to count all of their releases - just like NatGeo will be dumping titles on the market soon - IMHO. I think this is a fairer representation, but to each his own. I didn't get into HT for watching nature movies.
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And how many of those were actual theatrical releases?

No one ever said anything about theatrical releases - even you said "BD titles" in your original post. I think it's laughable that you'll include crap like Piranha and Friday the 13th Pt 3, but not any of the decent IMAX titles. I didn't get into HT to watch poor content for the sake of experiencing the novelty of 3D.

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