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This combination is amazing. The mechanics and construction of the CineSlide are extremely precies and well made [overbuilt for the task]. When activated the slide is quiet, smooth and quick. Again the tolerance and craftmenship are top shelf.

The packing on both items was very well done. The lens came in its own plastic foam filled case were as the CineSlide came in foam packing and individual components were boxed and wrapped. Again to notch.

The father of CineSlide, GetGray [Scott, HTTech] is very professional and detailed in his assemly and installation process. He is truely a videophile at heart with a wealth of knowledge and insight to achieving the best performance of his product and most projectors. Now here is the really interesting part. There was no mounting plate for my projector [DPI M260LED, there is plate for the M260 w/lamp]. What do you do? Well GetGray made one! It was spot on. Prior to installation he created a CAD drawing that located the projector mount, slide leg mounts, lens center and even the floor joist to transpose to the mounting board [3/4" birch plywood].

Most installers prefer the mount that retrofits to the projector case but not me. I wanted in separate that allowed easy chaning of projectors and no movement or "frame settle" as a result of slide moving.

On to the lens. What a difference. DVDs [getting BR soon or looking into media server, who knows] looked great. We were Soldiers was excellent. The alignment and adjustments were straight forward [challange for many including myself] and easy to access. This is my first anamorphic lens and I can imagine it getting any better.

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I've only got the more lowly Isco II with my HD350, so I can only imagine what the Isco III looks like. Given the low price of BluRay players, I'd say just treat yourself to even a $100 player as a stop gap (they come even cheaper than that over here in the UK, I've found) as you'll really see the difference over DVD on a screen that size...then sit back and enjoy.

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Might visit Best Buy for the Sony BP S570 for $199. Cheaper that I can a BR player!

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I'm still using an older Sony BDP-S350 player myself as I've yet to arrange a home demo of a 'better' player (such as Arcam's new BDP100 or perhaps pick up a used Oppo 83 once the 93 is out). As I mostly watch 1080/24p BluRays I'm not yet convinced I'll see anything better on screen even if I change my player for a very expensive model. Anyway, you could always use the cheap player in another room later on if you do sort out a media player setups someday.

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Get the Oppo!

Glad everything turned out well. You were privileged to have Scott help you with this personally.

What are you using for your audio rig? Speakers? Triads I'm assuming?

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I have to say, that LED on a DNP 2.2 looked surprisingly good. And in the worst of conditions. Photos were taken with the lights on and the sun up. Ambient light was an understatement. The DNP did great. And with the lights off, it was very very bright. Even for a brightness junkie like me. It was a pleasure having a guinea pig for a new projector mount . Anyway, I'm sure Mike can make some better shots but here are some "rough" ones with a phone camera:





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Glad to hear you are so happy with your new lens. I'm sure it looks fabulous.

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On to the lens. What a difference. DVDs [getting BR soon or looking into media server, who knows] looked great.

Good Lord man. You are into home theater enough to roll that many thousands of dollars on an anamorphic lens set up but at this stage you haven't even bought a Blu-Ray player???

Sometimes I can't wrap my head around other AVS member's priorities .
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hahaha now if he only upgraded his 2.0 system to 11.2 then he would have a real ht!!!!!! just kidding, that lens looks amazing. congrats on the purchase.

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Is that a curved screen or is that the amount of pin cushion distortion you get with the ISCO III?
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I think it's hard to tell from that camera phone picture...it looks like there is a bit of 'fisheye' type effect on the whole picture (especially in the middle if you look at the white trim on the wall below the screen). I don't think it helps that the picture on screen is a stretched 16:9 program rather than a 2.35:1 source. Hopefully there'll be some better photos later to calm your worries Taffman.

FWIW I get about 1-1.5" of pincushion across a 9.5' screen with an Isco II, which is tiny and easily lost by the screen border and slight overscan.

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Is that a curved screen or is that the amount of pin cushion distortion you get with the ISCO III?

What... You don't know how much or little distortion you get from using a lens?

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Is that a curved screen or is that the amount of pin cushion distortion you get with the ISCO III?

I know both Scott and Mike. Knowing that Scott is an extreme videophile, There's no way they would accept a pin cushion effect from the isco. That's the camera doing that.

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true. look at the bottom screen border. it has the same amount of curve. im thinking its the camera.

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I have to say, that LED on a DNP 2.2 looked surprisingly good. And in the worst of conditions. Photos were taken with the lights on and the sun up. Ambient light was an understatement. The DNP did great. And with the lights off, it was very very bright. Even for a brightness junkie like me.

GetGray,

I've been curious about the DNP screens. The 2.2 (2.3?) gain version you saw is rated by DNP to have a very narrow viewing cone, so one would expect drops in brightness or hotspotting to be evident as you move off axis. Did you notice this and if so how severe?

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Congratulations mmiles! Super equipment!

Just curious, did you demo any of the other LED DLP's? I have only seen the SIM2.

The CineSlide is truly a first class product in every way! You're going to enjoy it.
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The pincushion was due to the phone, and I agree the 1.78 material being stretched adds to the illusion. It's about a 1.7 TR so there is some, but definately not much. I think 1/4-3/8" IIRC. The poor photo is the reason for the look. Sorry, it's all I had, was travelling light.

Re the screen, I didn't do any scientific checks. I was however very surprised at how much the off-axis viewing did NOT drop off. I happened to be standing in Mike's dining area which was off to the right through that opening and the picture was still pretty clear. I didn't expect that and had commented to him about it, thus the reason I remember.
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Let me see who to smack down first...

Just kidding. AV is one of a few business concerns I am involved in. As for not having a BR player I have been toying with the idea of media server. One of the staff members here in my "day job gig" is an avad HTPC guy and I also know that Tony is very deep into that as well.

It is not two channel it is Tannoy DC12i [3] with DC15i subs [2] all strown around the floor. Tony, I may have to delay on TRIAD since I want to bring on a control product soon. However ask GG-Scott what he thought of the audio.

The cell phone pics are not very good but the only thing we have. I do not own a good camera and tripod sorry fellas. At night it looks like a 110" plasma I kid you not.

Hats off to Scott for a great product and all his advice along the way.

He is a video guy and I'm an audio guy. Scott got to see first hand with me behind the soundboard!

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Thats a nice setup. I will be investing in a Cineslide, once I get the PJ attached to the ceiling.

How are the Tannoy DC12i's? Never heard them , they do look like a nice speaker.

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Tannoy's are pretty good for the money for sure. I have them on Audiogon but in no hurry to sell them.

They are not pretty to look at so eye candy fanboys beware.

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Well, part of my reason for going to visit with Mike was to see how the template and projector mount all fit together. DPI didn't have real 3D CAD drawings available and there was some confusion (from them) over mount hole locations from early production units. I modeled the Projector, Chief mount, and CineSlde all together and produced a template to make it easy for the installer to use. Installers want the "easy button" for installing A-lenses. I'm a strong proponent of independent mounts for a variety or reasons. Since independent mounts aren't the "easy button" I'm trying to throw the installers a bone so to speak by giving them a printed template. Particularly for popular projectors. Just lay it on the mount surface and mark the holes, mount, done. I was very pleased how this new PJ install went. Fit perfectly. Thanks to 3D cad. Here's a render of the PJ and mount that the template was generated from. You can see it matched the end result just as planned.

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Tannoy's are pretty good for the money for sure. I have them on Audiogon but in no hurry to sell them.

They are not pretty to look at so eye candy fanboys beware.

What are you thinking of going to next? From the specs, there is not much around that will out power them and from reveiws , they do seem like an excellent speaker.

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Watching everything in 2.37:1.

Monday Night Football was outstanding [go Steelers!].

The only thing I was missing some of the bottom screen [score etc.] and "sidebars" in the pregame and Pardon the Interuption [PTI] earlier. It was only on ESPN when graphics where cropped so to speak.

To clafify this is not he lens since it also occured in 16:9.

I hope to get a buddy over to take some pics with a good digital SLR.

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The cropping issue of the banners while watching sports [primarly ESPN] was in the set up of the cable STB [Scientic Atlanta Explorer HD8300].

PICTURE SIZE was set to ZOOM 1. When changed to NORMAL all was fine!

Just in time for the game last night!

Steelers did not fair so well...

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