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Glad to see you like the lens. Your thread motivated me to revamp my
theater and go anamorphic.

Good luck! The lens you got with the front element piece should be really nice. I'm taking my time and trying not to get to far in debt over the whole process.
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Good luck! The lens you got with the front element piece should be really nice. I'm taking my time and trying not to get to far in debt over the whole process.

Well, now that you have tasted the fruit I have to say "Resistance is futile my friend, Resistance is futile!"

Glad you are enjoying it!


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Well, the RS1 is gone and I now have an HD350 (RS10) that I'm playing around with. Still no screen but I think I have decided to go with a Jamestown screen using the Seymour material.
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Nice upgrade! Still using the RS-2 and my curved screen. Are you going
flat or curved screen? Highly recommend a curved screen!
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Nice upgrade! Still using the RS-2 and my curved screen. Are you going
flat or curved screen? Highly recommend a curved screen!

I think curved would look cool but I'm already pressed for space and funds. I have an odd setup to deal with seeing as I'm trying to use inwall speakers but not actually put them in the wall and oh yeah...there's a window right where the center speaker goes. It's a spare bedroom so I can only do so much. I was surprised last night at just how little distortion I had with my lens in this relatively short throw. From what I had read it seemed unlikely that my lens would work with this projector at all. The recessed lens in the HD350 and the small area for the light beam to enter with this old Prismasonic lens.
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Reallyyyyy wish I could find a Panamorph UH480 and slide at a good price.
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Reallyyyyy wish I could find a Panamorph UH480 and slide at a good price.

I never use the motorized pass thru of the 1500FE call me to lazy
to hit the button
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I never use the motorized pass thru of the 1500FE call me to lazy
to hit the button

I'm at the absolute limits of this lens and actually spilling off the side of the screen facing prism just a bit when in 2.35 mode.
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I'm at the absolute limits of this lens and actually spilling off the side of the screen facing prism just a bit when in 2.35 mode.

I know what you mean about the spill. My setup is on the edge 1.55 with
my short throw can barely make the lens/image fit inside the prism. Not
complaining though. 16/9 was not fun to watch 133" from 11 ft. Scope
is soooooooooooooo much easier. I will keep my eye out for the combo.
Have a budget in mind?
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I know what you mean about the spill. My setup is on the edge 1.55 with
my short throw can barely make the lens/image fit inside the prism. Not
complaining though. 16/9 was not fun to watch 133" from 11 ft. Scope
is soooooooooooooo much easier. I will keep my eye out for the combo.
Have a budget in mind?

Agreed, it is such more cooler to have wall to wall image and makes for a more immersive experience. I don't even have the screen yet, need to do that ASAP. I would like to find a UH480 or an ISCO3 small lens with transport for less than 2K. I know that's a tall order but I just missed several of the Isco lenses on Ebay for that price. This HD350 has the recessed lens of course so that presents more challenges for this prism lens. The RS1 lens worked much better with it. Thanks for looking out!
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Reallyyyyy wish I could find a Panamorph UH480 and slide at a good price.

I'm not sure your definition of good price.and I know the feelingthese lenses are expensive.

Anyhow I've seen a 480 on videogon.com for $1,700factory refurb

Also on ebay two ISCO III 1.33S with a CineSlide went for $2,000 (I picked up one of them) last week and an ISCO III 1.33 L with slide went for $2,800.

Also two weeks ago a Runco rebrand of the CINE DIGITAR 1.33 lens and slide went for $2,300.

Look daily the deals will turn up.

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http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...e-Digitar-1-33× This is a great lens don't know if the aperature is big enough!
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http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...e-Digitar-1-33× This is a great lens don't know if the aperature is big enough!

The price is in Euros

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Ooops! just trying to help. Maybe a member will hook up dropezone7 after
reading these last post!
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Thanks guys! I do look every day but just haven't gotten lucky. Yzf, I was watching those same Isco units on Ebay. Nice snag there at the last second!
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Thanks guys! I do look every day but just haven't gotten lucky. Yzf, I was watching those same Isco units on Ebay. Nice snag there at the last second!

Thanks, good luck in your search.

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Finally found my surround speakers and hung two of them this past weekend. The only thing really missing now is the screen. Of course, I still don't have anything to hold my front speakers so that is the next thing to do.
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Guys, I need some help with my screen and speaker configuration. As I think I mentioned previously in the thread, I have (3) in-wall speakers that have full enclosures that I wan't to use without putting them in the walls. My idea was to build a sort of baffle wall or plywood surface with cutouts for the speakers and then attach that whole thing to the wall with proper spacing for the speaker back boxes. The AT screen would then mount in front of this. I plan to cover the front wall with Linacoustic. My questions at this point are related to positioning of the speakers and screen. I have read several things about the screen height and how it should be placed where the bottom 1/3 (for 2.35) of the viewable area is at eye level of the front row. I assume that with the speakers I also need to try to have the tweeters at ear level? This is the part that has me kind of worried because these in wall speakers are about 31" high http://www.snellacoustics.com/AMC_870-spec-sheet.pdf

This might bring my overall screen position veritcally lower than I would like. Any suggestions? What is more critical? Screen height or speaker height?
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Visually I think you can get away with a lower screen as looking down is less tiresome than looking up - my last scope screen had my eye level at around the middle of the screen rather than a third of the way up (which was where I was with a previous 16:9 screen) and it was fine.

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Yeah, I think lower will be fine once I see it all put together. I guess I still have this image in my head of my old 16:9 screen taking up so much more room veritcally. Placement just seemed more obvious but also had a lot to do with where my center channel was and a subwoofer that was fairly tall. I actually will have an even taller subwoofer now that I might end up having to place on it's side now that the screen will be lower.
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Well I finally hung the projector. Its in the closet at the rear of the room, hanging about 12" from the ceiling. Nice square image. Now I have to rig up something to hold the anamorphic lens.
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Well I finally hung the projector. Its in the closet at the rear of the room, hanging about 12" from the ceiling. Nice square image. Now I have to rig up something to hold the anamorphic lens.

Sounds like your theater is moving forward. Are you going to make a slide?
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Sounds like your theater is moving forward. Are you going to make a slide?

This Prismasonic lens though dated, is motorized so I have remote control over the pass/stretch function. I won't need a slide for this lens but getting it mounted and positioned in the small space I have in front of the projector may be a challenge. I still have to decide where the image/screen should be on the wall so maybe tonight I will post some pictures of different positions on the wall (no screen, just image) and see what everyone thinks.
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That would be great! Look forward to the pics. Missed the part about the lens being motorized. I keep looking to upgrade projectors but my RS2 and FE1500 looks incredible so
I am content to follow your thread as if I was building a new system. So good luck DropZone
and keep up the good work!
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That would be great! Look forward to the pics. Missed the part about the lens being motorized. I keep looking to upgrade projectors but my RS2 and FE1500 looks incredible so
I am content to follow your thread as if I was building a new system. So good luck DropZone
and keep up the good work!

It won't be anything fancy, that's for sure! I have a dirty white wall with a window in the middle of it and a piece of styrofoam in front of that window. The screen wall is going to have to be radically changed before this is ready for prime time. It will be covered in Linacoustic and then the baffle wall of sorts will be built to hold the front and center speakers. I just have to nail down the screen vertical placement before I can move on to any of those things. Sometimes I think I would like it close to the ceiling and then other times it looks better to me closer to the floor. Confused...
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Try just sitting where you will sit and see where your eyes naturally go when you look at the wall. The trick is not being conscious of what you are doing and just letting your eyes do their thing. Once you figure out where that spot is use that as your center point for mounting the screen.

Most people prefer to look straight at or slightly down at the screen.

Another good way is just to think about your preferred seating at the movie theater. Do you sit in the middle, front or back?

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Well, this is probably pointless but here are some terrible pics to show what I'm talking about. Various heights of a 16:9 image. Final screen will of course be 2.35:1. Like I said there is a window in the middle of this wall which you can clearly see in these pics and it was still daylight outside.






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^^^

Actually, very revealing pictures as you can really see how much less ceiling reflection there is as you progressively lower the screen height away from the ceiling!

Unless you plan on darkening the ceiling above the screen, the lower mounting height decreases the ceiling reflection substantialy! eek.gif

Personally, I like the lower mounting height... YMMV!


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Glenn makes a good point. All of that light spill from the ceiling will come back to wash out the image (especially if you are planning on using a white screen).

If you are using a white screen, you probably want to paint the ceiling (or any light colored walls) a dark color anyway.

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Actually, very revealing pictures as you can really see how much less ceiling reflection there is as you progressively lower the screen height away from the ceiling!
Unless you plan on darkening the ceiling above the screen, the lower mounting height decreases the ceiling reflection substantialy! eek.gif
Personally, I like the lower mounting height... YMMV!
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Glenn makes a good point. All of that light spill from the ceiling will come back to wash out the image (especially if you are planning on using a white screen).
If you are using a white screen, you probably want to paint the ceiling (or any light colored walls) a dark color anyway.

Thanks Glenn and John, I hadn't really thought of that being a factor in this decision but I realize now that it certainly should be. I spent a little time this evening watching movies with the image in that lowest position and I think it is a good comfortable height. Every wall in the room is black fabric except for the front wall at the moment. I have the masking from my old screen partially removed while I decide how to treat that wall and install my speakers. It will be totally framed in black once the screen is up. I will probably cover the ceiling with linacoustic or some sort of insulation at least a few feet out to kill any light reflections up there. Good call on that guys and this make my decision a little easier now.
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