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post #1 of 11 Old 10-13-2011, 10:25 AM - Thread Starter
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I watch alot of medium quality tv series material through ps3 media server, but when I´m getting a projector I would like to have a cinescope screen without having to change the zoom when watching 16:9 material.

Is it possible to change the screen resolution in ps3 media center or any other trick that causes black bars on the media center screen, that would fix the problem with switching between formats.

I saw in another forum he solved this by setting the graphic card to 1980x800, but this only works if the computer is the source for all material.
I use media center for series and the ps3 for bluray.

Whats your thoughts about this?

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I don't see how you could really make this work. With a PS3 I'd say you have no chance. With a computer there are lot of tricks you can make with content and resolutions.

I think you would have to re-master your 16:9 content files to actually behave as 2.35:1 content files, thus adding black bars to the actual content kind of like how they do with scope movies in 16:9 format.
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Sounds like your wanting a windowbox for 16x9 material aka the shrink method. Certain projector have this feature or an VP/scaler would be needed. You would display 2.40 as 800x1920 and 16x9 as 800x1440.
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I know Panasonic used to call this an "s" mode, I think for shrunken. They did it in 4:3 projectors 5-8 years ago. I'm not sure who provides the option now, Panasonic might still in their 4000 or 7000.
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IIRC Panasonic projectors have an 'S 16:9'mode and some Epsons do similar. Another option is an Oppo BluRay player that allows a '1/2' zoom which is near enough.

Other options would be getting a projector with lens memory such as the Panasonics or the newer JVCs, or using a Lumagen VP that allows you to save memories with 'shrink' settings. I used the later until I found a good used lens and it worked better than the lens memory on my old AE3000 (much quicker and no 'processing' message on the screen during the transition). It allows you to chose a projector for it's image quality rather than it's features too.

Zooming: Been there, done that, bought the lens...
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I know Panasonic used to call this an "s" mode, I think for shrunken. They did it in 4:3 projectors 5-8 years ago. I'm not sure who provides the option now, Panasonic might still in their 4000 or 7000.

The 3000 and the 4000 have the "S16:9" aspect ratio which is a shrunken version of 16:9, both letterboxed and pillarboxed. I like to call it "postage stamped" because that's pretty much what it looks like. I have been forced to use it for 16:9 material because my projector is too high for the traditional zoom method to work, and the only alternative is to manually adjust vertical shift when switching between aspect ratios.

I am not certain about the 7000 but I suspect it also has S16:9.
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Lumagen RadianceMini <
this will do it 16:9 to 2:35:1 is that what you wanted but it's gonna cost ya.

heres a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwF7nYe-YzM
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Long as it works.. The lumagen can be had for $1299 vs anamorphic lens low end is still $$$$
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Just be aware that Lumagen doing 16:9 to 2.35:1 is wasting pixels as you end up with about 1920 x 810 pixels instead of the (from the disc) 1920 x 1080 pixels.

However, I agree the Lumagen is a great device; I have on myself to use with a (relatively cheap when bought used) Isco II lens.

Zooming: Been there, done that, bought the lens...
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Just be aware that Lumagen doing 16:9 to 2.35:1 is wasting pixels as you end up with about 1920 x 810 pixels instead of the (from the disc) 1920 x 1080 pixels.

However, I agree the Lumagen is a great device; I have on myself to use with a (relatively cheap when bought used) Isco II lens.

i'd love to get an Isco II lens but the cost would be astronomical more than my projector.. I'll look into a decent Anamorphic lens once I get a try 4k projector next time around..
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I picked my Isco II up for about £800 (sterling) so it was about 1/4 the cost of my (then) projector. They rarely come up over here in the UK and the only other one I've seen for sale went for about £1,000 if that's any guide. I'll consider not using the Isco when I eventually get a 4K projector and just zoom/shrink instead, but it depends on what it looks like since I'm in a very long throw set up which is optimal for a lens user.

Zooming: Been there, done that, bought the lens...
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