ISCO Anamorphic Projector Widescreen Lens 1.33x S w - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the Watchuseek.com newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!


Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 18 Old 07-27-2012, 08:04 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
RapalloAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 3,080
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1092 Post(s)
Liked: 234
How far down the food chain was this model and how old is it?

Murray Thompson
X Owner RapalloAV
CinemascopE Home Cinema Build & 2014 rebuild
RapalloAV is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old 07-28-2012, 06:02 AM
AVS Special Member
 
CAVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 8,703
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Liked: 64
If it is the A-Lens I think it is, the S stands for small. Its glass design should be identical to the L and M units. Probably about 3 years old now. Performance should be on par with the larger versions.

Mark Techer

I love my Constant Image Height system!
CAVX is offline  
post #3 of 18 Old 07-31-2012, 03:57 PM
Scott Horton, techht.com
 
GetGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-South USA
Posts: 5,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Liked: 119
Don't know about the "w" on the end of your subject line, but that implys a "medium" size Schneider/Isco "IIIS" ( = M). The IIIS is a smaller than Ton'ys XEIT lens.
GetGray is offline  
post #4 of 18 Old 08-01-2012, 12:19 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
RapalloAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 3,080
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1092 Post(s)
Liked: 234
Quote:
Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Don't know about the "w" on the end of your subject line, but that implys a "medium" size Schneider/Isco "IIIS" ( = M). The IIIS is a smaller than Ton'ys XEIT lens.
I now know the "W" was not meant to be on the end, the lens is a "S" small.

Murray Thompson
X Owner RapalloAV
CinemascopE Home Cinema Build & 2014 rebuild
RapalloAV is offline  
post #5 of 18 Old 08-01-2012, 05:03 AM
Scott Horton, techht.com
 
GetGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-South USA
Posts: 5,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Liked: 119
No, not a "small". To be clear, the lens is a S, medium. I personally named that lens. Isco was going to call it the Isco II again, and I told them that would be a mistake since there was already the older out of production "Isco II" with a lower performance conotation. They agreed and we called it the IIIS. "S" for smaller than the "L" of the IIIL but of the same design.

The "M" came later when Isco began making/branding the lenses for Schneider who had the tiny CineDigitar. They thought to avoid confusion in thier line they named the Schneider branded lenses "M" and "XL", which was confusing IMO, but Schneider didn't take input from me like Isco did. The Isco IIIS and the Schneider "M" are the same lens, made by the same machines and poeple, with a different focus ring. Identical size glass. Both are "medium" in size.

Cheers
GetGray is offline  
post #6 of 18 Old 08-01-2012, 12:57 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
RapalloAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 3,080
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1092 Post(s)
Liked: 234
Quote:
Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

No, not a "small". To be clear, the lens is a S, medium. I personally named that lens. Isco was going to call it the Isco II again, and I told them that would be a mistake since there was already the older out of production "Isco II" with a lower performance conotation. They agreed and we called it the IIIS. "S" for smaller than the "L" of the IIIL but of the same design.
The "M" came later when Isco began making/branding the lenses for Schneider who had the tiny CineDigitar. They thought to avoid confusion in thier line they named the Schneider branded lenses "M" and "XL", which was confusing IMO, but Schneider didn't take input from me like Isco did. The Isco IIIS and the Schneider "M" are the same lens, made by the same machines and poeple, with a different focus ring. Identical size glass. Both are "medium" in size.
Cheers

Thats very interesting and also very confusing...ha!
Nice to know the truth that the "S" is not really a small lens and in the end its actually the same lens as the Schneider "M", its a good lens and will work with most projectors just as the "M" does.

Murray Thompson
X Owner RapalloAV
CinemascopE Home Cinema Build & 2014 rebuild
RapalloAV is offline  
post #7 of 18 Old 08-01-2012, 01:03 PM
Scott Horton, techht.com
 
GetGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-South USA
Posts: 5,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Liked: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Thats very interesting and also very confusing...ha!
Nice to know the truth that the "S" is not really a small lens and in the end its actually the same lens as the Schneider "M", its a good lens and will work with most projectors just as the "M" does.
Yep. "Fit" depends on throw ratio and the PJ technology (panel size), and lens recess (e.g Sim2 C3X chassis). It will fit anything the Sch M fits as they are identical in size. Since you are in AU I'd point out the XEIT will fit a few more as it's larger. The Isco IIIL (now changed to the Isco 4XL) fits most everything.
GetGray is offline  
post #8 of 18 Old 08-01-2012, 01:38 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
RapalloAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 3,080
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1092 Post(s)
Liked: 234
Quote:
Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Yep. "Fit" depends on throw ratio and the PJ technology (panel size), and lens recess (e.g Sim2 C3X chassis). It will fit anything the Sch M fits as they are identical in size. Since you are in AU I'd point out the XEIT will fit a few more as it's larger. The Isco IIIL (now changed to the Isco 4XL) fits most everything.

Ok good to know!

Murray Thompson
X Owner RapalloAV
CinemascopE Home Cinema Build & 2014 rebuild
RapalloAV is offline  
post #9 of 18 Old 08-05-2012, 11:37 AM
Newbie
 
Home Alone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Anyone have some info on the following lens?

Runco WideVisionTM Cinema Grade Anamorphic Lens 720p 2.35:1.

Looks alot like an ISCO III. Is there a difference between ISCO III and IIIL?
Home Alone is offline  
post #10 of 18 Old 08-05-2012, 02:42 PM
Scott Horton, techht.com
 
GetGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-South USA
Posts: 5,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Liked: 119
Show me some pictures and I can tell you what it is. There is no "III", only a "IIIL" or a "IIIS".
GetGray is offline  
post #11 of 18 Old 08-05-2012, 03:41 PM
Newbie
 
Home Alone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Show me some pictures and I can tell you what it is. There is no "III", only a "IIIL" or a "IIIS".
Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.
Home Alone is offline  
post #12 of 18 Old 09-04-2012, 03:41 PM
Scott Horton, techht.com
 
GetGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-South USA
Posts: 5,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Liked: 119
Sorry, I missed your photo post. I need to see it from the side. That should do it but preferably with a size reference in the photo to be positive. Like a DVD laying beside it for example.
GetGray is offline  
post #13 of 18 Old 02-12-2016, 02:36 PM
Member
 
gitongisip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 13
will you be able to tell me if this is an Isco IIIs? Marantz used to sell this back in 2007-2008.

http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-Motori.../dp/B002AKKKSA
gitongisip is offline  
post #14 of 18 Old 02-12-2016, 04:22 PM
Scott Horton, techht.com
 
GetGray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-South USA
Posts: 5,811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Liked: 119
That is a IIIL. No longer in production. Replaced by the slightly larger cased Isco 4 XL. Which is now only branded as Schneider XL. All of which have the same size glass. Isco still makes them (as Schnieder's anamorphic division).
GetGray is offline  
post #15 of 18 Old 02-17-2016, 10:55 AM
Member
 
gitongisip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 13
The new Jvc's will not vertically stretch 4K content, only 2k. Unless I'm doing something wrong. I'll stay with zooming for now.
gitongisip is offline  
post #16 of 18 Old 02-17-2016, 11:25 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Seegs108's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 8,369
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3103 Post(s)
Liked: 1301
Quote:
Originally Posted by gitongisip View Post
The new Jvc's will not vertically stretch 4K content, only 2k. Unless I'm doing something wrong. I'll stay with zooming for now.
I'll have to test this feature out later, but I'm fairly certain you can still use the anamorphic stretch with a 4K input with these new JVC units.
Seegs108 is online now  
post #17 of 18 Old 02-17-2016, 12:12 PM
Member
 
gitongisip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 80
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 13
Thank you. Btw, my device is Roku4 directly connected to the rs400 with the latest hdmi 3ft cable. Display Output of the roku4 is set to 4K 10bit. Source is Netflix & YouTube.
gitongisip is offline  
post #18 of 18 Old 02-17-2016, 02:06 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
stanger89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 19,877
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1597 Post(s)
Liked: 699
I was thinking, but I don't remember where I saw it, that it will stretch 4K24, but not 4K60. The Roku may be outputting 4K60 for everything.
stanger89 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply 2.35:1 Constant Image Height Chat

taboola here


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off