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post #61 of 70 Old 12-27-2012, 04:50 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks for the tip... Will definitely take your advise. Wife probably is not the friend I should use then. She is patient but we don't always work so well together with things like this.

I did not plan so well though. I just ordered my 138" Stewart Deluxe screen... has not even got here yet. Hind site I should have just bought the luxas screen. Mike tried to tell me that. I would have saved a little money and now I have to shim the Masquerade to fit around the screen.
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I did not plan so well though. I just ordered my 138" Stewart Deluxe screen... has not even got here yet. Hind site I should have just bought the luxas screen. Mike tried to tell me that. I would have saved a little money and now I have to shim the Masquerade to fit around the screen.

Why didn't you just order the 136" Carada screen with a simple frame that they sell specifically for use with the Masquerade?

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Because I current have a 110" Stewart Studiotek and love the screen. I was initially going to do a DIY project with the new 138" Stewart that I have on order. I decided to late to add the Masquerade system or I would have just ordered the luxus frame.
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Just wanted to add that I saw the magnificent Sony VW1000ES yesterday on a 4 metre 2.35:1 screen in a very large dark room (so literally no reflections back to screen). Yet I could still see the side panels of the screen when we viewed 16:9 content so even such a projector in such a great room still could still benefit with side masking.

My little temporary bits of velvet hung with small cup hooks either side of my screen have worked very well over Christmas. One night we watched a 2.35:1 film (The Grey) and then put on some HD recording from my PVR in 1.78:1. It took only a minute to lift my Isco II down, press the lens memory button on my remote (just to slightly increase the image height again with the lens out of the way) and then hang the two masks in place. Quiet a slick change by my standards.

I'm sure an Isco III on an electric slide along with a screen with motorised side masks would be even better, but this is still streets ahead of me struggling to clip the velvet to my screen pelmet and then hearing the clips 'ping' off behind me as I walked back to my seat. mad.gif Plus I'd have to then adjust the zoom and focus using the remote, so more messing about. As my room is far from perfect not seeing the side panels light up in brighter scenes really helps improve the perceived contrast too.

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Just wanted to add that I saw the magnificent Sony VW1000ES yesterday on a 4 metre 2.35:1 screen in a very large dark room (so literally no reflections back to screen). Yet I could still see the side panels of the screen when we viewed 16:9 content so even such a projector in such a great room still could still benefit with side masking.
My little temporary bits of velvet hung with small cup hooks either side of my screen have worked very well over Christmas. One night we watched a 2.35:1 film (The Grey) and then put on some HD recording from my PVR in 1.78:1. It took only a minute to lift my Isco II down, press the lens memory button on my remote (just to slightly increase the image height again with the lens out of the way) and then hang the two masks in place. Quiet a slick change by my standards.
I'm sure an Isco III on an electric slide along with a screen with motorised side masks would be even better, but this is still streets ahead of me struggling to clip the velvet to my screen pelmet and then hearing the clips 'ping' off behind me as I walked back to my seat. mad.gif Plus I'd have to then adjust the zoom and focus using the remote, so more messing about. As my room is far from perfect not seeing the side panels light up in brighter scenes really helps improve the perceived contrast too.

LOL. You have the "masking disease." So sorry to see you join our sorry, leprous ranks.

I find unmasked images somewhat frustrating to watch, as I'm aware of "gray bar" space I don't see at home and know the image would look better masked. Ah well. It looks like you are working out your own antidote. biggrin.gif
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Yes, I've definitely got the masking disease now Rich. I'm going to make up my Mk2 masks soon using some 3mm hardboard wrapped in velvet, they should give a crisper edge than my existing ones which are just folded over and stuck using carpet tape. I got away with leaving them up over Christmas (as they get messed up if I try rolling them up and putting them away) so will have to get the Mk2 version done soon.

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Can the Masquerade or comparable masking system be drawn fully in to cover the entire screen when not in use, or does it only close down to the smallest aspect ratio? I previously used curtains for masking in my old location, but now that I've moved, I don't think curtains will work in the new room. I want something that only covers the screen, and doesn't drape down below it.

Will I have to create something custom? I fear that I'm not talented enough to do that well.

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Can the Masquerade or comparable masking system be drawn fully in to cover the entire screen when not in use, or does it only close down to the smallest aspect ratio? I previously used curtains for masking in my old location, but now that I've moved, I don't think curtains will work in the new room. I want something that only covers the screen, and doesn't drape down below it.

Will I have to create something custom? I fear that I'm not talented enough to do that well.

Josh,

I have the horizontal version of the Carada Masquerade:

http://www.carada.com/masquerade-masking-system.aspx

I had the same question before I bought it, wondering if it would close to cover the entire screen. It does not - it just closes to the most narrow AR. (Actually, I've tweaked it to close somewhat beyond that, but not fully closed). Carada told me they considered a system that would fully close, but it would have added to the cost so they left it out, figuring it was not the prime reason for the masking system anyway. I presume it's the same for their vertical system which you'd be interested in, but you can ask them of course. (They are incredibly responsive to inquiries).

I'd suggest the type of remote controlled curtain/panel system I'm using for my side masking, which can both hit all the AR sizes and also close to cover the whole screen, but you are saying curtains won't work. Why not? Not enough room to stack to the sides for the screen size you wish?
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I'd suggest the type of remote controlled curtain/panel system I'm using for my side masking, which can both hit all the AR sizes and also close to cover the whole screen, but you are saying curtains won't work. Why not? Not enough room to stack to the sides for the screen size you wish?

Yes, I'm very tight for space on the left of the screen. Also, I just don't think they'll look good with my current decor.

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That's a tough one then. Have you emailed Carada to ask if their CIH masking system fully closes?

I wasn't a fan of using black velvet curtains myself, so I went with a moving black velvet panel system. I just put as wide a screen as possible on my wall. The velvet masking panels still hang and stack to each side of the screen, but not outside the screen. They cover the side of the screen frame (in fact, replace it). So it's like the side of the screen slide in and out to change shape.
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